January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread

[pablo_picasso]

On the BBC rumours page there's a post about Barcelona looking to loan out Ansu Fati, if there's any remote chance I'd be all over that, he's a fantastic young player.

Without an option to purchase, we should stay away from developing other clubs footballers. We have enough of our ow to develop.

[pablo_picasso]

Target man option is a must as tonight has shown. The opposition are happy for us to have the ball in wide areas as they know that either the quality from Digne or Cash, etc, has to be perfect or they have to have one of their own defenders go to sleep for us to score when they defend deep.

If only we had a young 6’3” pacy tank who has a lovely touch, excellent hold up & link up play & doesn’t complain when he is on the bench?

I understand that his finishing needs work, but I have always felt that as a different option off the bench, Keinan Davis could more than do a job…

"Needs work" - understatement of the year. And he's injured again.

[bob]

Pickford is shite

We've signed Jordan

Nobbs

[algy]

BBC reporting that we've turned down a loan offer for Danny Ings from Everton, but Bournemouth, Southampton and West Ham United might also be interested in signing him.

Dunno where I stand on it tbh.  He seems the most natural finisher in the squad, and he's not a player that I'd instantly try to put a "for sale" sign on ... but the clubs that are interested in him are likely to be desperate for a proven goalscorer - which Ings absolutely is.  I'd be asking for something like £30m or something - a nice tidy profit on what we paid for him, and that might mean we'd be more in a position to splash the cash on a £50m-bracket striker instead ...

[bob]

BBC reporting that we've turned down a loan offer for Danny Ings from Everton, but Bournemouth, Southampton and West Ham United might also be interested in signing him.

Dunno where I stand on it tbh.  He seems the most natural finisher in the squad, and he's not a player that I'd instantly try to put a "for sale" sign on ... but the clubs that are interested in him are likely to be desperate for a proven goalscorer - which Ings absolutely is.  I'd be asking for something like £30m or something - a nice tidy profit on what we paid for him, and that might mean we'd be more in a position to splash the cash on a £50m-bracket striker instead ...

Think we'd be doing extremely well to get £30m Algy but the funds for a better striker have to come from somewhere, can't all be from the owners.

[algy]

BBC reporting that we've turned down a loan offer for Danny Ings from Everton, but Bournemouth, Southampton and West Ham United might also be interested in signing him.

Dunno where I stand on it tbh.  He seems the most natural finisher in the squad, and he's not a player that I'd instantly try to put a "for sale" sign on ... but the clubs that are interested in him are likely to be desperate for a proven goalscorer - which Ings absolutely is.  I'd be asking for something like £30m or something - a nice tidy profit on what we paid for him, and that might mean we'd be more in a position to splash the cash on a £50m-bracket striker instead ...

Think we'd be doing extremely well to get £30m Algy but the funds for a better striker have to come from somewhere, can't all be from the owners.

He's a reliable 1-in-3 striker, and the teams being mentioned are all desperate.  It's time we were the ones selling players for well more than they're worth (which arguably we've been reasonably good at late, with Joe & Carnaby Chumbawamba).  Pull their pants down, tell them that if they don't pay up then one of the other 3 will.  Relegation will cost them more than £30m, etc etc.

[DrGonzo]

If Archer is off on loan to Boro Ings is not likely to go anywhere this window.  I can't see 2 top strikers being brought in that quickly, and nobody would leave themselves with Watkins as the only CF.

[Paul.S]

If we let Ings go then we’ll need to replace him which will cost a huge amount. Then you need a willing seller and a player of that quality willing to move in January to a mid table PL side. Considering most quality forwards are involved in some sort of trophy challenge with their current clubs I doubt very much if any club will be making a signing of this nature this month.
You never know but it’s highly unlikely.

[bob]

BBC reporting that we've turned down a loan offer for Danny Ings from Everton, but Bournemouth, Southampton and West Ham United might also be interested in signing him.

Dunno where I stand on it tbh.  He seems the most natural finisher in the squad, and he's not a player that I'd instantly try to put a "for sale" sign on ... but the clubs that are interested in him are likely to be desperate for a proven goalscorer - which Ings absolutely is.  I'd be asking for something like £30m or something - a nice tidy profit on what we paid for him, and that might mean we'd be more in a position to splash the cash on a £50m-bracket striker instead ...

Think we'd be doing extremely well to get £30m Algy but the funds for a better striker have to come from somewhere, can't all be from the owners.

He's a reliable 1-in-3 striker, and the teams being mentioned are all desperate.  It's time we were the ones selling players for well more than they're worth (which arguably we've been reasonably good at late, with Joe & Carnaby Chumbawamba).  Pull their pants down, tell them that if they don't pay up then one of the other 3 will.  Relegation will cost them more than £30m, etc etc.

Good point I hope you're right.

[brontebilly]

I wouldn't be against Ings leaving but only if we have someone lined up to take on Watkins for his spot. That's unlikely this month so might be best to hold onto Ings until the summer. Unfortunately when they both play together it has rarely if ever worked (Soton home game was an exception that comes to mind).

Buendia, Bailey, Coutinho...not getting anywhere near enough from them individually or collectively. I'm happy enough with 2 from Luiz, Kamara and Dendoncker. McGinn and Ramsey maybe competing for the same spot when they are back is strong too. Nakamba and Sanson on way out hopefully.

[coreyfeldman]

Emery said last night that we had no plans to sell Ings and that he's very much part of the plans. With archer gone there's no way we'd leave ourselves with 1 striker

Fully expect 2 forwards to come in this month

[johnc]

I expect strikers to come in. Archer on loan and Ings in the departure lounge seem to point towards this. We would be doing very well to recoup our money on Ings. When was the last time we managed that?

[Russ aka Big Nose]

Lots of rumours that Archer is heading out on loan to Boro, though nothing has been confirmed.

Maybe that deal has stalled due to interest in Ings.

I would be happy with a Archer getting more game time, Ings being sold (for decent money) and a top goalscorer coming in.

[Dante Lavelli]

Isn’t that Luiz?

It should be, but he really needs to learn some consistency. First half tonight he was as bad as he was against Liverpool first half, and was rightly subbed. The Luiz against Spurs is the one we need to see more often.

I saw an interview with De Bruyne when he said and I paraphrase, he would rather put in 7/8 out of 10 performances every game rather than a 10 out of 10 followed by a 4 out of ten as he achieves more this way.
We need a lot of our players to start thinking this way.

That’s a good quote and I agree that it’d better, but is it in the players’ gift to decide how they perform?  Back in the day, I remember the coaching* “if you’re not paying well, make yourself a nuisance to the opposition” however isn’t that the minimum expectation from a professional footballer nowadays?

It’d be interesting to know if Luiz ran less versus Liverpool and Wolves compared to Spurs to see if his efforts dropped if anyone has the data.

* not aimed at me, I was always 8/10.

[Dante Lavelli]

Send Archer on loan
Sell Ings for £15-20m
Loan Felix from Atletico

Doesn’t solve any long term problems but I’d take money for Ings whilst he’s young enough to attract decent offers.  We’d have a better idea exactly how good Archer is and its not often a player like Felix is available (plus he’s almost certain to fall in love with the club).