Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Villan82]

Round and round we go in this rotten era for our club.

When will we ever get our villa back?

[Drummond]

The lack of positional discipline and calm heads does for us. In games like today we get pulled about all over the park; the opposition move the ball about quickly and our players move out of position.

Part of the issue is that those players then don't seem to learn. The question comes down to whether it's the coaching that's awry or the players.

It seems reading the site that we're split along those lines. Either it's the players or the coaching. We'll find out soon enough.

[Risso]

The lack of positional discipline and calm heads does for us. In games like today we get pulled about all over the park; the opposition move the ball about quickly and our players move out of position.

Part of the issue is that those players then don't seem to learn. The question comes down to whether it's the coaching that's awry or the players.

It seems reading the site that we're split along those lines. Either it's the players or the coaching. We'll find out soon enough.

It's almost certainly going to be a mixture of the two. I'm sure some of the players will respond to Emery. I very much doubt he'll get a tune out of absolutely everybody though, and hopefully we'll make two or three of his own signings in January.

[Drummond]

I'm sure you're right. I think there may be one or two surprises in store for us about players that come good and ones we let go.

I think the players we have are undoubtedly better than our league position suggests, which is where the coaching comes in. However, there are others who won't improve, or will just be replaced by players with a higher ceiling.

[Risso]

I'm sure you're right. I think there may be one or two surprises in store for us about players that come good and ones we let go.

I think the players we have are undoubtedly better than our league position suggests, which is where the coaching comes in. However, there are others who won't improve, or will just be replaced by players with a higher ceiling.

There are so many questions over just about all of the squad though, it's scary how much work he's got to do.  He's got to quickly try to assess the players individually, but then also get them to play consistently well as a team, something which has eluded both Smith and Gerrard.

[Stu]

Pick the bones out of that one!

I really liked feeling positive about the Villa for a few days. Felt weird though, felt almost like hope, glad to have that feeling crushed again

[aj2k77]

Total Blues from the team again, they have no backbone hence why they can't get a result away and why whenever we concede we don't get fuck all from the game. I'm happy to see the back of every single one of them. No body have a winners mentality. Maybe Martinez. Apart from that, rubbish from 1-11.

[MattW]

I must admit that I didn't know about a concussion sub giving the opposition the opportunity to make an extra substitution... but what a stupid rule as today's match proves.  Team A loses influential player in a specialist position; Team B can throw on another pair of fresh legs any time they like.

Yes, it's an absurd rule. Presumably, its purpose is to disincentive rorting, but if the concussion is assessed by a doctor, their professional ethics should suffice.

[eamonn]

I'm sure you're right. I think there may be one or two surprises in store for us about players that come good and ones we let go.

I think the players we have are undoubtedly better than our league position suggests, which is where the coaching comes in. However, there are others who won't improve, or will just be replaced by players with a higher ceiling.

There are so many questions over just about all of the squad though, it's scary how much work he's got to do.  He's got to quickly try to assess the players individually, but then also get them to play consistently well as a team, something which has eluded both Smith and Gerrard.

He effectively has a pre-season though which is a god-send in a way. We have bugger-all momentum so a well-timed reset like we had when the pandemic hit, will hopefully pay-off in 2023.

[Perthvillan]

Fairly even first half with all the stoppages making for a disjointed game.
That second half though.....on dear, as bad as it has been over the last few years.
We were completely overrun and basically gave up.
I'm continually baffled by our non-existent midfield.
The second half was an embarrassment to our club.
I would be okay if some of our players never wore the shirt again, but I know they will have to for the time being.
We can only hope that Emery can sort this out.
What a job he has!
Avoiding relegation must be his first objective.
I will be glad when the World Cup is here and we can reset.
I can't think of any of our players being involved (apart from Cash).
UTV

[N'ZMAV]

Probably Martinez for the World Cup.

[Perthvillan]

Yeah of course, for Argentina right.

[Villafirst]

The writing was on the wall at the end of last season. 11 months of Gerrard's "coaching" and tactics has ruined most of the players. He should've gone at least 6 weeks ago. It was clearly never going to work. Emery has 25 games to sort it out. The World Cup break is so timely to give the manager the chance to work with the players.

[N'ZMAV]

Shame we haven’t got a few fringe players that could go to the World Cup to put themselves in the shop window.

An average player could have a Milan Baros type tournament.

[PaulWinch again]

Total Blues from the team again, they have no backbone hence why they can't get a result away and why whenever we concede we don't get fuck all from the game. I'm happy to see the back of every single one of them. No body have a winners mentality. Maybe Martinez. Apart from that, rubbish from 1-11.

Nothing like a bit of an overreaction. Let’s see what happens when a proper manager has had a chance to work with them. Some will fall by the way side, with new players coming in, but the idea that everyone other than the goalkeeper, who you generously classify as “maybe” a winner, is hopeless isn’t true.