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Offline eamonn

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12465 on: September 15, 2025, 08:43:31 PM »
CD slaying know-nothings about Newcastle  ;D

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12466 on: September 15, 2025, 09:05:19 PM »
I was agreeing with JP I think.

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12467 on: September 15, 2025, 10:24:36 PM »
The midfield has been compromised and because of PSR our attacking options have been limited too. Now that we've signed Elliott and Sancho I'd expect things to improve.


I’m sorry, but we have to stop blaming external factors.
PSR/SCR doesn’t make us take 20 touches and 5 minutes to get to the half way line, only to stand on the ball and then pass sideways.

Tippy tappy football has had its day, and until we change our approach things aren’t going to improve.

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12468 on: September 15, 2025, 11:44:37 PM »
We don't play "tippy tappy" football. We hold a shape and play patiently for channels to appear so we can pass through them and then the tempo/directness increases as we punch through the gap. This happened 3 times in particular on the weekend and Rogers bungled every attempt. It happened when Buendia nearly scored from a deflected shot too.

We have played, broadly, the tactic of a patient crocodile for the past 3 years; attacking the half space. This is why we have signed the profile of player we have. Rogers, who can run into that space (rather than pass through it) and he really needs to be higher up the pitch. Torres, who has good passing through the lines (see Bayern Munich), Tielemans who can find space to pass in a phone box. Onana, who is meant to be a crash ball style hit the box type with his athleticism and size (the lack of this in Luiz is why he was picked to leave). Maatsen who has tremendous pace and running from full back, as displayed en route to the European Cup final, to replace Moreno who did a similar job. Elliot is an archetype; industrious pressing, can play in the spaces or maybe (probably hopefully) at 10.

We also sometimes and often go long from Martinez.

It has not happened so far this season, because we can blame SCR given the significant constraints and disruption that has clearly been felt. Confidence isn't there, which impairs execution. We have injuries, as usual, by the bucket load. We are also not getting close enough to Watkins and we're not using the ball well when we find that space.

We do not play "tippy tappy football" and it baffles me the conclusions people come to from what they must have been watching for years.
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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12469 on: Today at 12:08:50 AM »

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12470 on: Today at 12:11:28 AM »
Great Post, Ads.

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12471 on: Today at 12:21:56 AM »
I agree with it too. More than anything, we have an out of form Watkins and the biggest problem is that the undroppable Rogers has not just been out of form but useless for too long.

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12472 on: Today at 04:59:02 AM »
Was going to comment but can't be arsed anymore

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12473 on: Today at 07:39:05 AM »
“Useless” - everyone has been rubbish at the start of the season pretty much. Accepting Rogers wasn’t at his best at the end of last season, but 6 assists and a goal in the last 8 league games of last season is not “useless”.

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12474 on: Today at 08:12:53 AM »
We don't play "tippy tappy" football. We hold a shape and play patiently for channels to appear so we can pass through them and then the tempo/directness increases as we punch through the gap. This happened 3 times in particular on the weekend and Rogers bungled every attempt. It happened when Buendia nearly scored from a deflected shot too.

We have played, broadly, the tactic of a patient crocodile for the past 3 years; attacking the half space. This is why we have signed the profile of player we have. Rogers, who can run into that space (rather than pass through it) and he really needs to be higher up the pitch. Torres, who has good passing through the lines (see Bayern Munich), Tielemans who can find space to pass in a phone box. Onana, who is meant to be a crash ball style hit the box type with his athleticism and size (the lack of this in Luiz is why he was picked to leave). Maatsen who has tremendous pace and running from full back, as displayed en route to the European Cup final, to replace Moreno who did a similar job. Elliot is an archetype; industrious pressing, can play in the spaces or maybe (probably hopefully) at 10.

We also sometimes and often go long from Martinez.

It has not happened so far this season, because we can blame SCR given the significant constraints and disruption that has clearly been felt. Confidence isn't there, which impairs execution. We have injuries, as usual, by the bucket load. We are also not getting close enough to Watkins and we're not using the ball well when we find that space.

We do not play "tippy tappy football" and it baffles me the conclusions people come to from what they must have been watching for years.

Odd take on Luiz, he was excellent at breaking into box and scoring goals. His distribution was spot on too. It did seem early on last season with the likes of Onana and Rogers that we were prioritising power through the midfield. But that hasn't paid off. It won't pay off either as Onana hasn't the basic skill set to play there. 

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12475 on: Today at 08:40:27 AM »
Because 'tippy tappy' is a cliché, and so spares the kind of angry bloke who regards anything less than Bobby Gould's Wimbledon as at best needlessly effeminate the migraine-inducing burden of thinking for themselves.

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12476 on: Today at 08:49:05 AM »
Bronte your confusing Rogers being powerful and that implying a lack of finesse. He does some brilliant technical stuff on the ball, he’s not just a powerful runner.

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12477 on: Today at 09:20:47 AM »
A player can assist once in a game and still play poorly/be quiet for the rest of it. Rogers was running the show in games last season even against top teams early on, he scared the shite out of Arsenal at home. Opposition seem to have copped-on to his abilities and are making it more difficult for him.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12478 on: Today at 09:23:00 AM »
A player can assist once in a game and still play poorly/be quiet for the rest of it. Rogers was running the show in games last season even against top teams early on, he scared the shite out of Arsenal at home. Opposition seem to have copped-on to his abilities and are making it more difficult for him.

I am sure there is a degree of truth in that, he's a 'marked man' as they say, but then again, why wouldn't they have copped on to that last season after seeing him put in a few great performances for us?


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Re: Unai Emery
« Reply #12479 on: Today at 09:31:10 AM »
Same with Grealish. When he was playing for us, opposition teams put 2-3 men on him and he became less impactful. With his change to Citeh and locked down in how he played, they were gradually stopped, epecially with Citeh having multiple players who could exploit the space. But now at Everton, teams will be doing the same like we did at times in the match.

 


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