Unai Emery

[Lastfootstamper]

I think Wolves highlight that if you're going to invest heavily on the playing side, it's vital that you win something.

[AV82EC]

I’d add that the primary beneficiary of that investment in the playing squad appeared to be “Jorge Mendes Pension Plan Inc” which wasn’t exactly thinking for the longer term either.

[Drummond]

Contrast what happening at Wolverhampton and Aston Villa and that down to our management team of Emery and the club owners, apart from issues with the terrace view and catering services it's great to wake up happy

Wolves had 2 7th placed finishes before FFP caught up with them.  Hopefully, we're better prepared for a longer run at it, but like Everton before them Wolves are paying for reaching for the stars and missing.  FFP seems designed to punish any club that has the audacity to have a crack at the Sky 6.

Wolves didn't have the cushion of selling Grealish, Archer, Chukwuemeka, Ramsey A. and Philogene for a combined £160m to help.

They can't be far off with the likes of Jota, Patricio, Dendoncker, Gibbs-White, Neves and Collins etc. Of course that's not all profit when they're not youth players, but they've still brought a lot in.

Oh yes, but for FFP reasons that can't have helped them much. We really have done well FFP wise with those 5.

[Smithy]

I think Wolves highlight that if you're going to invest heavily on the playing side, it's vital that you win something.

I'm not sure that's true.  If they'd won, say, an FA Cup, I doubt they'd be that much better off in terms of FFP.  The fans would be a bit happier I'm sure, but they'd still have financial issues. 

If you're going to invest heavily on the playing side, you need to make sure you're making enough money across the board to sustain it WITHOUT winning something. That's how you build long-term success.  There are no guarantees in this game, and much as we'd love it as fans for the club to spend big and see us win a couple of trophies, I'd hate to see us do that and then struggle, and have to sell our best players because we'd stretched ourselves way too far.

I always want us to buy "one more" player. Or to break the bank on a superstar, but I'm also accutely aware that barring the Gerrard blip, the rise of our club since Wes and Nas took over has been almost unblemished, so I trust them to build this club to a level where it's making top 6 money year on year, and challenging for honours like a top 6 club year on year.  No prostituting ourselves for a quick-fix, but long-term reliable, year on year improvement.  Unai is driving that improvement right now, and I couldn't be happier.

[Risso]

Oh yes, but for FFP reasons that can't have helped them much. We really have done well FFP wise with those 5.

I don't think that's right. They paid £12m for Jota, sold him two years later for £41m, so there's £35m profit. Neves was bought for £16m, and sold for £47m after 6 years, so almost all profit. Gibbs-White was a youth player so that's between £25m and £40m pure profit with add ons. Well over a hundred million right there, just for three players.

[Toronto Villa]

Oh yes, but for FFP reasons that can't have helped them much. We really have done well FFP wise with those 5.

I don't think that's right. They paid £12m for Jota, sold him two years later for £41m, so there's £35m profit. Neves was bought for £16m, and sold for £47m after 6 years, so almost all profit. Gibbs-White was a youth player so that's between £25m and £40m pure profit with add ons. Well over a hundred million right there, just for three players.

hmmm...what is it you do again?

[Risso]

Oh yes, but for FFP reasons that can't have helped them much. We really have done well FFP wise with those 5.

I don't think that's right. They paid £12m for Jota, sold him two years later for £41m, so there's £35m profit. Neves was bought for £16m, and sold for £47m after 6 years, so almost all profit. Gibbs-White was a youth player so that's between £25m and £40m pure profit with add ons. Well over a hundred million right there, just for three players.

hmmm...what is it you do again?

Accountant.

£12m less £6m amortisation. Value of £6m. Sold for £41m. Profit therefore £35m.

Next.

[LeeB]

Invoice in the post

[Percy McCarthy]

Oh yes, but for FFP reasons that can't have helped them much. We really have done well FFP wise with those 5.

I don't think that's right. They paid £12m for Jota, sold him two years later for £41m, so there's £35m profit. Neves was bought for £16m, and sold for £47m after 6 years, so almost all profit. Gibbs-White was a youth player so that's between £25m and £40m pure profit with add ons. Well over a hundred million right there, just for three players.

hmmm...what is it you do again?

Accountant.

£12m less £6m amortisation. Value of £6m. Sold for £41m. Profit therefore £35m.

Next.

Haha, beat me to it.

[pauliewalnuts]

Ha ha I KNEW the answer would be along those lines and that TV had walked into a trap.

[PeterWithesShin]

TV leaving the thread

[pauliewalnuts]

TV leaving the thread

Chant from Risso:

"You've seen the figures, now fuck off home
You've seen the figures, now fuck off home"

[Brazilian Villain]

Ha ha I KNEW the answer would be along those lines and that TV had walked into a trap.

It will make for a cracking anecdote at our next accountants meet up for drinks, "and wait for it, this is the best bit.......the guy hadn't amortised the asset even though it was purchased 2 years ago"....*cue raucous laughter*

[Lastfootstamper]

I think Wolves highlight that if you're going to invest heavily on the playing side, it's vital that you win something.

I'm not sure that's true.  If they'd won, say, an FA Cup, I doubt they'd be that much better off in terms of FFP.  The fans would be a bit happier I'm sure, but they'd still have financial issues. 

If you're going to invest heavily on the playing side, you need to make sure you're making enough money across the board to sustain it WITHOUT winning something. That's how you build long-term success.  There are no guarantees in this game, and much as we'd love it as fans for the club to spend big and see us win a couple of trophies, I'd hate to see us do that and then struggle, and have to sell our best players because we'd stretched ourselves way too far.

I always want us to buy "one more" player. Or to break the bank on a superstar, but I'm also accutely aware that barring the Gerrard blip, the rise of our club since Wes and Nas took over has been almost unblemished, so I trust them to build this club to a level where it's making top 6 money year on year, and challenging for honours like a top 6 club year on year.  No prostituting ourselves for a quick-fix, but long-term reliable, year on year improvement.  Unai is driving that improvement right now, and I couldn't be happier.

I think that had the dogheads won the Cup in '19 instead of chucking it in their own net, they'd have qualified for Europe which they missed out on with their first 7th place finish, and they'd be in a better place now. So mustn't grumble.

[PeterWithesShin]

It was their second 7th place finish that didn't get Europe. Has TV hacked your account?