Unai Emery

[ChicagoLion]

Oh dear. Are people imagining that posters are ‘turning on the manager’ again?

It would appear so.

Fuck off Emery, useless ******.

God knows where they're getting that from, eh? 😉

Yes, venting at the final whistle because you've just been humiliated by a 4th division club means you've turned on him, silly me.

Well, it's not exactly supportive.

jesus

[LeeB]

Oh dear. Are people imagining that posters are ‘turning on the manager’ again?

It would appear so.

Fuck off Emery, useless ******.

God knows where they're getting that from, eh? 😉

Yes, venting at the final whistle because you've just been humiliated by a 4th division club means you've turned on him, silly me.

Well, it's not exactly supportive.

jesus

Exactly. What would Jesus do if Nazarath had been knocked out of the Judean cup by some two bob outfit from a cave in the Golan Heights?

He may have turned the other cheek, but he'd have been giving a round of fucks along the way.

[Villan82]

I just find the OTT reaction utterly bizarre given the overall context of where we have been in recent years and the coup that Emery is. Emery is what we have been crying out for!

I also find it really strange that people are surprised to see a few of the squad players getting a run out in a cup game against fourth tier opposition. Villa on Tour are a big Villa youtube channel and I would hazard a guess that this has been standard practice in cup games since before they were all born! Yet some here were acting as though Emery was deliberately throwing the cup game.

I think some people were so OTT on Sunday. It was ridiculous and I personally feel that negativity is contagious and has been an issue for us in the past.

[Risso]

Over the top reaction you say?

[Villan82]

Just to add, I always saw next season as the year we go for a cup. I don't think any new manager coming into a struggling club mid season, without signing his own players, should be expected to win a cup that same season.

I don't remember Brian Little in 1994-95 coming in in November and being expected to win us the FA Cup. I always took Emery's comments at his unveiling as being his aim over say a 3- year stint. I don't know where this idea came from that we should be winning a cup this season. When he walked in the door we were averaging less than a point per game.

[Risso]

I don't think anybody has seriously mentioned winning the cup, have they? One game would be nice though, especially against a 4th division side. Not sure what league points per game have got to do with that, to be honest.

[pauliewalnuts]

Some of the high-horse / moral high ground, self-flagellation of Villa twitter has been absolutely absurd. I've seen so many tweets blaming the fans for the shit atmosphere and thus contributing to the loss, for example. What utter fucking nonsense. It's a Sunday night 3rd round cup match the first week in January against a fourth division side, not sure why anyone would be expecting River Plate - Boca Juniors atmosphere for that sort of fixture.

I thought the booing on Sunday was absolutely merited, though, that was a shocking display. I thought the half time booing against Wolves, on the other hand, was massively over the top.

re rotation, we should have been able to rotate the U18s in and still have enough to beat Stevenage. That line up was easily strong enough. Moaning about squad rotation strikes me as a bit nuts, everyone does it and there's not a side in the top flight that wouldn't have done similar against 4th division opposition.

They didn't deliver though, and now the manager has a much clearer view of who is and who is not up to it.

FWIW i suspect he's starting to form a negative opinion on a few of the players, and TBH some of them are clearly not good enough for where we want to go. Cash, Digne, Olsen, Bailey maybe. That's a good thing, because frankly, some of them are not good enough and we need to get a bit more ruthless if we are going to progress.

[Clampy]

I think Paulie post sums it all up very well.

[dave.woodhall]

It seems to me that some of our supporters treat the manager putting out a weakened side almost as a personal insult. That's modern football and we should be used to it by now. Then there's the moralistic tone PW alluded to, that it's somehow our fault for not being loud enough. Ultimately we lost. It happens. It's annoying but the rest of football has forgotten it already.

[Drummond]

Coming in to the game, you'd look at Stevenage, and the great run they're on, and think this could be a tricky one. You'd tell the players to keep it simple, utilise their skill, experience and knowledge and be patient.

At the final whistle, as a manager, you'd be embarrassed and raging, internally if nothing else, and give the sort of interview that Emery did with the press.

We can't ask him to make wholesale changes ot the line-up for Friday, because he already would have been. Whether there are a few younger faces on the bench will be interesting.

[Drummond]

It seems to me that some of our supporters treat the manager putting out a weakened side almost as a personal insult. That's modern football and we should be used to it by now. Then there's the moralistic tone PW alluded to, that it's somehow our fault for not being loud enough. Ultimately we lost. It happens. It's annoying but the rest of football has forgotten it already.

Exactly. Culturally, we are always looking to apportion blame. Hence the manager, players, DoF, and supporters all being blamed by someone.

The long and short of it is that supporters could make the atmosphere better, but that they want something to support; the manager could have picked a better side, but was let down by the players he picked; the DoF hasn't done that badly but as he seems responsible for signing the players he gets stick; then there's the players, who just didn't have enough about them to do it because they switched off at vital moments.

We lost, because of a couple of mistakes. I'm a bit pissed off but am almost in a place where I realise we may not win the Cup in my lifetime.

[pauliewalnuts]

This time next week the rest of the world will have forgotten it anyway. They’ve already forgotten Third placed Newcastle lost to a league one side the day before for example.

As woodhall said, it happens, it’s not nice but it happens to everyone.

Imagine being a Newcastle fan and seeing that Ronnie Radford clip every single year, though. That must be grim. Nobody is going to remember Olsen getting beaten at his near post for very long.

[Drummond]

Nobody is going to remember Olsen getting beaten at his near post for very long.

And I'd just about put it out of my mind, you swine!

[Brend'Watkins]

Nobody is going to remember Olsen getting beaten at his near post for very long.

And I'd just about put it out of my mind, you swine!

I'm still trying to put his pass to Dendonker when he should have put is boot through it out of my mind, haven't got to the lack of GK awareness for the 2nd yet.

[ChicagoLion]

Just to add, I always saw next season as the year we go for a cup. I don't think any new manager coming into a struggling club mid season, without signing his own players, should be expected to win a cup that same season.

I don't remember Brian Little in 1994-95 coming in in November and being expected to win us the FA Cup. I always took Emery's comments at his unveiling as being his aim over say a 3- year stint. I don't know where this idea came from that we should be winning a cup this season. When he walked in the door Boom Boom we were averaging less than a point per game.