Aston Villa 0-2 Chelsea post match thread

[Smithy]

Also, couldn't FFP be preventing us from spending more? The Noocassil chief exec said the other day that they can only spend up to a certain amount despite the riches of their owner.

If there is an FFP issue with us when would that end?

We seem to be the only club that ever worries about FFP and we have done for a decade. Nobody else seems bothered.

I don't think that's strictly true, it's just we've tended to get close to our limit of permissible spending pretty regularly, while lots of other clubs don't even get close.  They operate much more within their means.  I remember reading a few weeks ago that we have the 7th highest net spend of all premier league clubs over the last 5 seasons, including the £100m for Grealish - and for one of those years we were still in the Championship.  We've spend quite a lot of money, certainly enough to be fighting to be the "best of the rest" outside the current top four, and we've spent that money without any European football or the income associated with being a club competing near the top.

The owners have backed us pretty well I think (this last summer being the exception, but we don't know what deals they tried to get done, or what FFP restrictions we were operating under).  The problem isn't that the owners haven't spent money, it's that we're not sure we got good value for the players on whom that money was spent.

[Risso]

The owners have backed us pretty well I think (this last summer being the exception, but we don't know what deals they tried to get done, or what FFP restrictions we were operating under).  The problem isn't that the owners haven't spent money, it's that we're not sure we got good value for the players on whom that money was spent.

I think the problem is both.

[Mister E]

Also, couldn't FFP be preventing us from spending more? The Noocassil chief exec said the other day that they can only spend up to a certain amount despite the riches of their owner.

If there is an FFP issue with us when would that end?

We seem to be the only club that ever worries about FFP and we have done for a decade. Nobody else seems bothered.

I don't think that's strictly true, it's just we've tended to get close to our limit of permissible spending pretty regularly, while lots of other clubs don't even get close.  They operate much more within their means.  I remember reading a few weeks ago that we have the 7th highest net spend of all premier league clubs over the last 5 seasons, including the £100m for Grealish - and for one of those years we were still in the Championship.  We've spend quite a lot of money, certainly enough to be fighting to be the "best of the rest" outside the current top four, and we've spent that money without any European football or the income associated with being a club competing near the top.

The owners have backed us pretty well I think (this last summer being the exception, but we don't know what deals they tried to get done, or what FFP restrictions we were operating under).  The problem isn't that the owners haven't spent money, it's that we're not sure we got good value for the players on whom that money was spent.

Without doing the research, I'd say that other clubs have perhaps managed to do better in terms of commercial income than us; meaning that their FFP parameters are more favourable.

[ChicagoLion]

Also, couldn't FFP be preventing us from spending more? The Noocassil chief exec said the other day that they can only spend up to a certain amount despite the riches of their owner.

If there is an FFP issue with us when would that end?

We seem to be the only club that ever worries about FFP and we have done for a decade. Nobody else seems bothered.

I don't think that's strictly true, it's just we've tended to get close to our limit of permissible spending pretty regularly, while lots of other clubs don't even get close.  They operate much more within their means.  I remember reading a few weeks ago that we have the 7th highest net spend of all premier league clubs over the last 5 seasons, including the £100m for Grealish - and for one of those years we were still in the Championship.  We've spend quite a lot of money, certainly enough to be fighting to be the "best of the rest" outside the current top four, and we've spent that money without any European football or the income associated with being a club competing near the top.

The owners have backed us pretty well I think (this last summer being the exception, but we don't know what deals they tried to get done, or what FFP restrictions we were operating under).  The problem isn't that the owners haven't spent money, it's that we're not sure we got good value for the players on whom that money was spent.

Without doing the research, I'd say that other clubs have perhaps managed to do better in terms of commercial income than us; meaning that their FFP parameters are more favourable.

Outside of the obvious contenders I doubt it, commercial revenue is such a small proportion of revenue in comparison to the TV money anyway.

[Louzie0]

Mings is Zat Knight 2.0

Always liked Zat Knight.
However, I feel that Tyrone Mings is more suited to the PL and that he had a bad day at the office, along with the several guys further up the field. It’s time our strikers er, struck.

Thank goodness we have Ashley Young.

[Goldenballs]

Zat Knight was a likeable guy, but I couldn't get over the fact we got him and got rid of Cahill.

[Louzie0]

I have a similar reaction when I see Gerrard’s not playing Archer. Again.

[ROBBO]

No matter if we had big money to spend what top player would come to Villa Park while we are wallowing close to relegation. That's why we need a manager who can get the best out of the squad we've got, which to my mind is a mid to top eight squad. Gerrard has had over a year to improve us but we if anything are getting worse, he admits he's not a coach so what exactly is his role?

[Clark W Griswold]

A profit in 2021? The Grealish money was all spent on the three stooges.

I think it was Grealish £100m plus Engels £5m
Buendia £38m, Bailey £30m, Ings £25m
So about £12m profit, and then I think we got a bit more for Grealish when the fuckers won the league.
I’m by no means saying they’re bad owners Eamonn, and they have spent a bit this calendar year again but as others have said it’s not really been in line with the supposed ambitions. I’d sooner have a good manager and team first before we start messing with the stadium. We still haven’t finished in the PL top half since 2011.
I’ll forever be grateful for them pulling us out of the shit and regaining our PL status but you get a bit fed up of hearing how we’re aiming for the stars and then seeing shite out on the pitch every week. They really badly need to get the next manager right, if the reports about Poch are true tonight it gets my vote.

[Risso]

A profit in 2021? The Grealish money was all spent on the three stooges.

I think it was Grealish £100m plus Engels £5m
Buendia £38m, Bailey £30m, Ings £25m
So about £12m profit, and then I think we got a bit more for Grealish when the fuckers won the league.
I’m by no means saying they’re bad owners Eamonn, and they have spent a bit this calendar year again but as others have said it’s not really been in line with the supposed ambitions. I’d sooner have a good manager and team first before we start messing with the stadium. We still haven’t finished in the PL top half since 2011.
I’ll forever be grateful for them pulling us out of the shit and regaining our PL status but you get a bit fed up of hearing how we’re aiming for the stars and then seeing shite out on the pitch every week. They really badly need to get the next manager right, if the reports about Poch are true tonight it gets my vote.

We were all grateful when Lerner saved us from Ellis, and that went sour when he stopped spending money.

[coreyfeldman]

Zat Knight was a likeable guy, but I couldn't get over the fact we got him and got rid of Cahill.

Always remember him scoring against Arsenal, lovely moment

[Clampy]

Zat Knight was a likeable guy, but I couldn't get over the fact we got him and got rid of Cahill.

Always remember him scoring against Arsenal, lovely moment

Wasn't it Chelsea at home? Unless I'm remembering a different game. I think he either got the winner or equaliser.

[PaulTheVillan]

Zat Knight was a likeable guy, but I couldn't get over the fact we got him and got rid of Cahill.

Always remember him scoring against Arsenal, lovely moment

Wasn't it Chelsea at home? Unless I'm remembering a different game. I think he either got the winner or equaliser.

He got a late goal v Arsenal at home one Xmas.

[Clampy]

Zat Knight was a likeable guy, but I couldn't get over the fact we got him and got rid of Cahill.

Always remember him scoring against Arsenal, lovely moment

Wasn't it Chelsea at home? Unless I'm remembering a different game. I think he either got the winner or equaliser.

He got a late goal v Arsenal at home one Xmas.

I dont remember that one. Was a long time ago mind.

[maidstonevillain]

Zat Knight was a likeable guy, but I couldn't get over the fact we got him and got rid of Cahill.

Always remember him scoring against Arsenal, lovely moment

Wasn't it Chelsea at home? Unless I'm remembering a different game. I think he either got the winner or equaliser.

On his debut I think. Just after being released on bail.

Deserves more credit than he seems to get on here. Very competent player. Spent 10/12 seasons as a Premiership player. 2 England caps. And Villa was his boyhood club.