Aston Villa 0-2 Chelsea post match thread

[London Villan]

We mentioned the same yesterday. The silence was deafening in support of the manager.

[Nev]

Little to add really. Great performance in the first half, when we used pace and width we created problems but we do it in fits and starts and never keep it up so the opposition can have a breather and reset.

Potter made a change and that made the difference. The atmosphere was terrible but then no-one I spoke to had any time for the Manager so I'm not surprised really, it was an air of resignation rather than anger. That might be reversed next Sunday.

[LeeB]

It's no good saying "if we play like that we'll be fine" if you the don't then back it up. We played really well against Man City but then struggled to score against Leeds and Forest.

Exactly, and we always seem to be 10% off what's needed regardless of who we're playing

[Drummond]

It's no good saying "if we play like that we'll be fine" if you the don't then back it up. We played really well against Man City but then struggled to score against Leeds and Forest.

Yep you're right. The bottom line is that this is a results game and we're not getting them. You need to score goals to win games and we're not getting them. You can't just blame the strikers because nobody else is scoring either.

[LeeB]

The forwards almost look shellshocked when a chance is actually created, like a sentry getting woken up by a noise after days of nothing.

[London Villan]

Same way if we'd scraped a win against Forest and Leeds, on the back of two very poor performances, there would be nowhere near the pressure. Just a lot of grumbling about a crap style of football.

[Bad English]

Mings (who seemingly cannot be blamed for anything on here)   

Eh?

Well Mings and Watkins ain't going Qatar with horse face here
Fucking Mings
Mings having a blinder. (Ironic)
Mings had to produce one of his massive unforced clangers
Mings weak
one for the Mings howler scrapbook
Mings.....dear dear dear
Mings clearly doesn't want Gerrard here much longer either
Fucking hell Mings! (That was me)
Mings brain fart.
Mings WTAF!
Two mistakes leading directly to goals in two games for Mings.
Fucking hell, Mings!
Bloody hell Mingsy

From the match thread.

[LeeB]

Mings (who seemingly cannot be blamed for anything on here)   

Eh?

Well Mings and Watkins ain't going Qatar with horse face here
Fucking Mings
Mings having a blinder. (Ironic)
Mings had to produce one of his massive unforced clangers
Mings weak
one for the Mings howler scrapbook
Mings.....dear dear dear
Mings clearly doesn't want Gerrard here much longer either
Fucking hell Mings! (That was me)
Mings brain fart.
Mings WTAF!
Two mistakes leading directly to goals in two games for Mings.
Fucking hell, Mings!
Bloody hell Mingsy

From the match thread.

I love it when people try and attribute group think to everyone on this board, because someone challenged their views once.

Actually, sorry, no I don't. It really pisses me off.

[Risso]

It's no good saying "if we play like that we'll be fine" if you the don't then back it up. We played really well against Man City but then struggled to score against Leeds and Forest.

Yep you're right. The bottom line is that this is a results game and we're not getting them. You need to score goals to win games and we're not getting them. You can't just blame the strikers because nobody else is scoring either.

I really don't understand why he hasn't tried 4-2-3-1.

Pick one of Ings, Watkins or Archer, then have three of Buendia, Couthinho, Bailey, Ramsey and McGinn behind them. It then gives you a striker or two on the bench, and two other attacking midfielder options.  So yesterday for example, he could have started with Ings up front and Coutinho and Buendia, then maybe brought Bailey and Watkins on later to run at them. All with the base of Luiz/Nakamba/Dedonkey behind them mopping up and helping the defence.

[Nunkin1965]

Mings (who seemingly cannot be blamed for anything on here)   

Eh?

Well Mings and Watkins ain't going Qatar with horse face here
Fucking Mings
Mings having a blinder. (Ironic)
Mings had to produce one of his massive unforced clangers
Mings weak
one for the Mings howler scrapbook
Mings.....dear dear dear
Mings clearly doesn't want Gerrard here much longer either
Fucking hell Mings! (That was me)
Mings brain fart.
Mings WTAF!
Two mistakes leading directly to goals in two games for Mings.
Fucking hell, Mings!
Bloody hell Mingsy

From the match thread.

Impressive detective work but I'd probably spend my time doing something else. Each to his or her own though I suppose.
Where's John Mcginns' match thread abuse list or Gerrards in fact?

[brontebilly]

It's no good saying "if we play like that we'll be fine" if you the don't then back it up. We played really well against Man City but then struggled to score against Leeds and Forest.

Yep you're right. The bottom line is that this is a results game and we're not getting them. You need to score goals to win games and we're not getting them. You can't just blame the strikers because nobody else is scoring either.

I really don't understand why he hasn't tried 4-2-3-1.

Pick one of Ings, Watkins or Archer, then have three of Buendia, Couthinho, Bailey, Ramsey and McGinn behind them. It then gives you a striker or two on the bench, and two other attacking midfielder options.  So yesterday for example, he could have started with Ings up front and Coutinho and Buendia, then maybe brought Bailey and Watkins on later to run at them. All with the base of Luiz/Nakamba/Dedonkey behind them mopping up and helping the defence.

I was surprised but 433 actually worked really well yesterday for the first hour. But we had to switch to 4231 to chase it. When Buendia came on, we went 4312 but after Coutinho came on we didn't have a formation, bar Luiz in a midfield one and the rest like sheep in a heap in the middle in front of him. Even Dendoncker seemed to be pushing forward in no man's land.

I definitely think 4231 is what we should be going with. Get Ramsey further up the pitch, he could be key for us getting goals.

[Bad English]

Mings (who seemingly cannot be blamed for anything on here)   

Eh?

Well Mings....

...Bloody hell Mingsy

From the match thread.

Impressive detective work but I'd probably spend my time doing something else. Each to his or her own though I suppose.
Where's John Mcginns' match thread abuse list or Gerrards in fact?

1. Thank you for your input.
2. My reply was to a post about Mings.

[PaulWinch again]

It's no good saying "if we play like that we'll be fine" if you the don't then back it up. We played really well against Man City but then struggled to score against Leeds and Forest.

Yep you're right. The bottom line is that this is a results game and we're not getting them. You need to score goals to win games and we're not getting them. You can't just blame the strikers because nobody else is scoring either.

I really don't understand why he hasn't tried 4-2-3-1.

Pick one of Ings, Watkins or Archer, then have three of Buendia, Couthinho, Bailey, Ramsey and McGinn behind them. It then gives you a striker or two on the bench, and two other attacking midfielder options.  So yesterday for example, he could have started with Ings up front and Coutinho and Buendia, then maybe brought Bailey and Watkins on later to run at them. All with the base of Luiz/Nakamba/Dedonkey behind them mopping up and helping the defence.

Agreed, it is really obvious that 4-2-3-1 suits the squad we have.

[Delboy Villan]

We are only able to perform and motivate our players against the self-proclaimed top six (even though we never beat them). Player confidence in front of goal in gone. Substitutions have negative effects. Systems of play are predictable. And the manager just says give me more time as I am not as good as I thought I was or throws players under buses. We have a CEO that backed a dud. The seventh highest wage bill and 'lesser teams' out performing us. We are a joke and apart from us fans the people I feel most sorry for are the owners.

[London Villan]

It's what the squad was built for...

That said his 433, minus a number 10, should be an alternative and it worked to an extent yesterday. Until he brought on two number 10s...