Leander Dendoncker

[Monty]

Drink, so called, Water? He put in the worst performances of anyone I've ever seen in a Villa shirt, and I'm sure he'd tell you himself that it all went to hell for him during his time here. Dendoncker's inadequate for where we want to get to and especially for the kind of football we expect of our midfielders, but he's a very long way away from that abyssal level.

[Beard82]

Yes - but we only had him on our books for 6 months. 

We have the Donk on a 4 year contract on big wages.  So I would argue he was still worse business - even if he wasn’t at those dire levels

[eamonn]

It was an awful signing and a stupid amount of money for a player who was never first choice and rarely fit.

In hindsight. I don’t recall anyone saying that when he signed or right up until his season ending injury.

What you on about I got Ragged on here for saying he was a waste of time signing
People like you towing the line as usual the bloke can’t even run properly

Aside from not even knowing who I was referring to, care to explain your “People like me” comment? What is that exactly John?

Think he remembers you as one of the happy clappers back in the day and doesn't realise you've become jaded at times over the years like the rest of us.

[Drummond]

Dendoncker's inadequate for where we want to get to and especially for the kind of football we expect of our midfielders, but he's a very long way away from that abyssal level.

You can't put him in that hole, no.

[brontebilly]

Maybe a similar player to Soucek. We also badly needed some height in the team for set pieces. Think this is a solid enough buy to partner with Kamara. He's not going to be much of a playmaker but an upgrade on Nakamba surely.

I thought this persons take is better.

TBH it could have gone either way and even people at the start of the thread worried McGinn would be in midfield as well. In this case Luke was right, It would be interesting what falling out happened between him and Emery, and what stupid wages we had him on being as no one has even sniffed at him.

I always thought he was an annoyingly effective player when he played against us and for a very strong Belgium team too. Getting stuck into everything type. Those first couple of games post Gerrard he was very good but he was never going to compete with the levels of Kamara and Luiz. There were some awful appearances under Emery, Stevenage and another European game that I remember a big mistake late on. Scored at Old Trafford on the night of another Villa collapse over Xmas.

[LeeB]

Maybe a similar player to Soucek. We also badly needed some height in the team for set pieces. Think this is a solid enough buy to partner with Kamara. He's not going to be much of a playmaker but an upgrade on Nakamba surely.

I thought this persons take is better.

TBH it could have gone either way and even people at the start of the thread worried McGinn would be in midfield as well. In this case Luke was right, It would be interesting what falling out happened between him and Emery, and what stupid wages we had him on being as no one has even sniffed at him.

I always thought he was an annoyingly effective player when he played against us and for a very strong Belgium team too. Getting stuck into everything type. Those first couple of games post Gerrard he was very good but he was never going to compete with the levels of Kamara and Luiz. There were some awful appearances under Emery, Stevenage and another European game that I remember a big mistake late on. Scored at Old Trafford on the night of another Villa collapse over Xmas.

His game and strengths seem uniquely unsuited for what Emery requires from the position. He's a Sam Allardyce 'defensive midfielder' not an Unai Emery one.

[Toronto Villa]

It was an awful signing and a stupid amount of money for a player who was never first choice and rarely fit.

In hindsight. I don’t recall anyone saying that when he signed or right up until his season ending injury.

What you on about I got Ragged on here for saying he was a waste of time signing
People like you towing the line as usual the bloke can’t even run properly

Aside from not even knowing who I was referring to, care to explain your “People like me” comment? What is that exactly John?

Think he remembers you as one of the happy clappers back in the day and doesn't realise you've become jaded at times over the years like the rest of us.

I was never a happy clapper. I just didn’t see everything as shit all the time. I tried to compliment where appropriate in between the misery we all experienced. Mainly during the MON years. However I’ll let him justify his comments seeing as he’s picked me out.

[Hookeysmith]

I would of thought anyone of the promoted teams along with Brentford, Everton et al would be a good move for an experienced player like Donk.

I dont think we would be over pricing him so must just be his ridiculous wages - surely a player would rather take a lower wage but play every week?

[john e]

It was an awful signing and a stupid amount of money for a player who was never first choice and rarely fit.

In hindsight. I don’t recall anyone saying that when he signed or right up until his season ending injury.

What you on about I got Ragged on here for saying he was a waste of time signing
People like you towing the line as usual the bloke can’t even run properly

Aside from not even knowing who I was referring to, care to explain your “People like me” comment? What is that exactly John?

Think he remembers you as one of the happy clappers back in the day and doesn't realise you've become jaded at times over the years like the rest of us.

I was never a happy clapper. I just didn’t see everything as shit all the time. I tried to compliment where appropriate in between the misery we all experienced. Mainly during the MON years. However I’ll let him justify his comments seeing as he’s picked me out.

I don’t have to justify anything, I don’t give a flying fuck what you think
as far as I’m concerned you’ve always been a so called happy clapper as our history of fall outs in the past prove

However on this occasion I didn’t read the thread properly got it wrong and duly apologised straight away
If that’s not good enough for you then fuck it I won’t be losing any sleep

[Toronto Villa]

I wasn’t looking for an apology and you certainly didn’t apologize to me. You stuck on someone else’s reply when they corrected you. And our failings out? You mean over that nut case Eastie? You couldn’t prove at all I’m a happy clapper even if I gave you the rest of time. Whatever the fuck that even is. Believe me I couldn’t give a fuck what you think of me. You’ve unnecessarily made it personal. I never did with you.

[john e]

I wasn’t looking for an apology and you certainly didn’t apologize to me. You stuck on someone else’s reply when they corrected you. And our failings out? You mean over that nut case Eastie? You couldn’t prove at all I’m a happy clapper even if I gave you the rest of time. Whatever the fuck that even is. Believe me I couldn’t give a fuck what you think of me. You’ve unnecessarily made it personal. I never did with you.

Yeah whatever mate

[brontebilly]

Maybe a similar player to Soucek. We also badly needed some height in the team for set pieces. Think this is a solid enough buy to partner with Kamara. He's not going to be much of a playmaker but an upgrade on Nakamba surely.

I thought this persons take is better.

TBH it could have gone either way and even people at the start of the thread worried McGinn would be in midfield as well. In this case Luke was right, It would be interesting what falling out happened between him and Emery, and what stupid wages we had him on being as no one has even sniffed at him.

I always thought he was an annoyingly effective player when he played against us and for a very strong Belgium team too. Getting stuck into everything type. Those first couple of games post Gerrard he was very good but he was never going to compete with the levels of Kamara and Luiz. There were some awful appearances under Emery, Stevenage and another European game that I remember a big mistake late on. Scored at Old Trafford on the night of another Villa collapse over Xmas.

His game and strengths seem uniquely unsuited for what Emery requires from the position. He's a Sam Allardyce 'defensive midfielder' not an Unai Emery one.

Yeah I think Nuno was over Wolves at the time? Definitely not an Emery midfielder. Hope he gets a decent gig for himself.

[pauliewalnuts]

I wasn’t looking for an apology and you certainly didn’t apologize to me. You stuck on someone else’s reply when they corrected you. And our failings out? You mean over that nut case Eastie? You couldn’t prove at all I’m a happy clapper even if I gave you the rest of time. Whatever the fuck that even is. Believe me I couldn’t give a fuck what you think of me. You’ve unnecessarily made it personal. I never did with you.

You do have a tendency to claw out an argument that supports whatever the club is doing.

Last week - when we were not spending money - you were saying that maybe it's best not to spend any money, to have a nice quiet season, and try and have a good season the year after.

That sort of thing.

I don't think you're a happy clapper, but you just do the above quite a lot. Being honest here.

[Toronto Villa]

I wasn’t looking for an apology and you certainly didn’t apologize to me. You stuck on someone else’s reply when they corrected you. And our failings out? You mean over that nut case Eastie? You couldn’t prove at all I’m a happy clapper even if I gave you the rest of time. Whatever the fuck that even is. Believe me I couldn’t give a fuck what you think of me. You’ve unnecessarily made it personal. I never did with you.

You do have a tendency to claw out an argument that supports whatever the club is doing.

Last week - when we were not spending money - you were saying that maybe it's best not to spend any money, to have a nice quiet season, and try and have a good season the year after.

That sort of thing.

I don't think you're a happy clapper, but you just do the above quite a lot. Being honest here.

There is nothing wrong at all in trying to find positives even in challenging circumstances. Because up until then I had been concerned about everyone else spending money and us not spending money. So why not mention that also? It’s easy to find something to suit an argument or a position which you’ve just done.

We have ALL taken positions on things the club is doing, has done or will do with mostly limited intelligence. We all have made assumptions which have been based often in bias. You are no different to me in that or anyone else for that matter. I’m sorry that I’m not a dull dour everything is shit Brummie. I’m not going to criticize for the sake of it and I’m not going to applaud everything we do. That applies to MON, Lerner, Krulak, Heck or Emery etc. That’s absolutely my right as football fan of this club. And it’s everyone else’s to take whatever position they want.

[Demitri_C]

Some posters  called it a panic buy when we 1st signed  him. Certainly  feels that way. Absolute  flop like most of us predicted

Cheers slippy g