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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1725 on: October 21, 2022, 11:25:31 PM »
He also did very well with Braga, I believe, so not a one season pony like Gerrard. Even if we don't count the Portuguese version of the Charity Shield, he still won four trophies to Gerrard's one with greater competition. I'm choosing to ignore the last bit. He's coming to Villa.
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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1726 on: October 21, 2022, 11:26:20 PM »
I don’t think being familiar with the English league or football is particularly important, at least in terms of direct experience. I know he’s a higher end example, but look at what Klopp has done. Liverpool aren’t some state funded club and he’s made them raise well above where they were to be title winners/contenders and European cup winners again. He’s clearly an excellent coach, but he had no experience outside Germany. The experience of England thing is pretty meaningless if you get a quality manager.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1727 on: October 21, 2022, 11:27:25 PM »
Can someone explain why Almorim is significantly more qualified than Gerrard was when we appointed him?

I’m not necessarily against him, but see it as a gamble.  Has he achieved anything at Sporting in what is essentially a 3 team league?

Won the league last year with them for the first time in about 20 years
And how does that differ from Gerrard?  Sporting have hardly ever been out the top3.

I know what you’re getting at but he achieved something that hadn’t been done for a massive club in quite a while with more formidable opponents than Gerrard had to contend with. At a guess he had to work against a large turnover of players, which hints he can get his ideas across.
I’ve no idea how good he is or if he’s just the latest fad, Portugal does produce a fair amount of decent coaches/managers though.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1728 on: October 21, 2022, 11:29:32 PM »
He also did very well with Braga, I believe, so not a one season pony like Gerrard. I'm choosing to ignore the last bit. He's coming to Villa.

Ha! You three at the back fans remind me of Liz Truss without the U turn. Loons! ;)

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1729 on: October 21, 2022, 11:31:40 PM »
It isn't three at the back if I always close one eye so I can't see all the defenders.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1730 on: October 21, 2022, 11:32:47 PM »
I know there have been plenty of bad foreign managers, but I honestly believe in general they are more tactically aware than British ones

I’m totally fed up with the line of mainly British managers we’ve had and want a change
With the exception of Potter (and he served his apprenticeship abroad ) they’re basically all the same shit tactics negative lineups no imagination, pull your socks up type stuff, i’ve had enough of that shit

It’s no coincidence that the British managers are mainly clustered down the bottom of the premiership playing absolutely bollocks Football
I suppose Howe might also break the mould but I can guarantee that when Newcastle start motoring on he will be discarded and a foreign big-name manager bought in

So when you say what’s the difference between Amorim and Gerard the biggest one for me is one is foreign and one is British, so straight away he’ll have more nous
I know I’m stroking with a broad brush here and the argument can be picked apart here and there but in general that’s where I am

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1731 on: October 21, 2022, 11:32:49 PM »
The Portuguese league is miles miles better than the Scottish - there are 4 main teams basically but they still are competitive in Champions League. Plus the young players he bought through - quaresm, matheus nunes.
He's also known as being an excellent coach and is probably the most highly rated young coach in Europe.

Not even vaguely similar to Gerrard, lazy comparisons.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1732 on: October 21, 2022, 11:34:19 PM »
I’ve no idea how good he is or if he’s just the latest fad, Portugal does produce a fair amount of decent coaches/managers though.

I'm trying to forget last night and getting our arse served up to us by one. The big difference I see is Portugal takes Coaching to an academic level before it's rolled out into practice. Obviously there are exceptions but the trend is there.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1733 on: October 21, 2022, 11:34:48 PM »

Villa fans would love his values - a Portuguese Dean Smith.


Does he stand there chewing his lip when things are going badly?

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« Reply #1734 on: October 21, 2022, 11:35:39 PM »

Villa fans would love his values - a Portuguese Dean Smith.


Does he stand there chewing his lip when things are going badly?

Satanist!

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1735 on: October 21, 2022, 11:39:46 PM »
Danks said he was asked to lead the team ‘for the next couple of days’.  Not weeks, or until otherwise told. I wonder if the new person is already in negotiations or even appointed and will be announced early next week, already sounded out.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1736 on: October 21, 2022, 11:54:54 PM »
I’ve no idea how good he is or if he’s just the latest fad, Portugal does produce a fair amount of decent coaches/managers though.

Remember when Spain were the best team in the world and we managed to sign the only Spanish footballer who couldn’t trap a football.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1737 on: October 21, 2022, 11:57:19 PM »
I’ve no idea how good he is or if he’s just the latest fad, Portugal does produce a fair amount of decent coaches/managers though.

Remember when Spain were the best team in the world and we managed to sign the only Spanish footballer who couldn’t trap a football.

Remember when we signed Wesley for £22m?

The only Brazilian male on the planet with no natural ability with a football.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1738 on: October 21, 2022, 11:59:47 PM »
Was Howe still available when we sacked DS?

He'd have been a decent succession fit so annoying Purslow was getting giddy at appointing his hero as manager which has cost us 12 months.

No, took Newcastle about a week before

If we’d sacked Smith when the writing was on the wall we could have gone for Howe. If we’d sacked Gerrard a few weeks ago we could have gone for Potter. And I reckon they would both have snapped our hands off

Eddie Howe was a brave appointment by Newcastle, who if I recall correctly a certain Stevie G turned down. His last gig had seen him relegate Bournemouth with some very patchy recruitment in later years there and he spent a long time flirting with Celtic before pulling out. Any other number of clubs in the PL swerved him, not just us. It's revisionist to suggest otherwise.

Just because Potter went to Chelsea doesn't mean he would have been right for us either. Thought they were dreadful when they played us last week. So let's see how long he gets before he is Potted.

Best to look forward now. I just have a horrible feeling Purslow has been caught asleep at the wheel and only started sussing out alternatives to Gerrard a week or so ago.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1739 on: October 22, 2022, 12:00:30 AM »
I’ve no idea how good he is or if he’s just the latest fad, Portugal does produce a fair amount of decent coaches/managers though.

Remember when Spain were the best team in the world and we managed to sign the only Spanish footballer who couldn’t trap a football.

and ask him to maraud down the right flank!!

 


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