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Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1245 on: October 21, 2022, 08:53:23 AM »
It’s surely just a fairly easy story isn’t it? He’s doing well and worked here recently, it’s probably just a few people putting some money on it.

Get Pochettino Villa - with Gerrard we went for profile, without a proven track record. We now need both.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1246 on: October 21, 2022, 08:54:05 AM »
Not fucking Beale. Did we learn nothing from Little/Gregory? Why swap one inexperienced manager for another? It is lunacy.

Calm down, nothing has happened.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1247 on: October 21, 2022, 08:55:11 AM »
I would take Frank or Rodgers if you are doing current Premier League managers.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1248 on: October 21, 2022, 08:56:38 AM »
Not fucking Beale. Did we learn nothing from Little/Gregory? Why swap one inexperienced manager for another? It is lunacy.

Calm down, nothing has happened.

I know that. Simply making the point that it would be a daft and knee jerk appointment if it came to pass.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1249 on: October 21, 2022, 08:56:42 AM »
I hope we aren't. Go massive or don't fucking bother, Villa. No more "he'll do" appointments.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1250 on: October 21, 2022, 08:56:52 AM »
The fact Gerrard went so quickly after the Fulham game makes me wonder if he was going whatever the result and someone has already been sorted

And him picking a team that looked totally at odds with each other, disorganised, tactically inept and any changes just made it worse…Konsa at full back when we have Cash, keeping Bailey on when it’s obvious he’s a luxury at the moment, not playing Buendia when he provides energy, and persisting with some players when Archer is crying out for more than ten minutes and Chambers whose played well when picked…

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1251 on: October 21, 2022, 08:58:42 AM »
Beale now favourite.

No he isn't. Pochettino still favourite but has drifted from odds-on to 3/1.

Skybet Beale's the favourite.

Skybet



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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1252 on: October 21, 2022, 08:59:20 AM »
Personally I think we’ve probably already approached one or two including Poch
I would love him but I don’t think he will be persuaded to come, it’s worth a go though for those that say why would he come to Aston Villa one word - money

We are constantly told that money is taking over at Football look at Man City Chelsea Newcastle all there club profiles have changed because of it well we’re right up there because of our owners anything is possible
But I fear with Poch he’s holding out for something else

I think we will go all out for poch or maybe even to Tuchel get knockback and end up with Rogers and round and round we’ll go
Last night will be repeated again about a year/18 months from now, Unless the owners really don’t take no for an answer

I have been saying for a few weeks now I can see us ending up with Rogers. I think he is angling for the sack at Leicester and we are the biggest club he will get.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1253 on: October 21, 2022, 08:59:33 AM »
I would take Frank or Rodgers if you are doing current Premier League managers.

With Rodgers we'd be hoping we're the team to reignite his career. He's currently doing really badly with a team with attacking players like Tielemans, Barnes and Maddison in it.

Offline Ivo Stas

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1254 on: October 21, 2022, 08:59:39 AM »
Betfair Odds:

Betfair Next Manager:

 

Manager Specials
Next Permanent Aston Villa Manager
Mauricio Pochettino1.57
Unai Emery6.0
Michael Beale7.5
Thomas Tuchel11.0
Thomas Frank11.0
Sean Dyche13.0
Ralph Hassenhuttl21.0
Marcelo Bielsa21.0
Kjetil Knudsen21.0
John Terry21.0
Scott Parker23.0
Chris Wilder26.0
Rafa Benitez26.0
Dean Smith26.0
Jose Mourinho41.0
Antonio Conte41.0
Erik ten Hag51.0
Steve Bruce67.0


Mauricio Pochettino - possibly the most likely of the "big names" to be persuadable to come? I have a bit of hope that our owners could sell the club (or their ambition) to him.
Unai Emery - seems to be very good in Spain, was a bit of a comedy figure at Arsenal (language issues a la Venglos?).
Michael Beale - this would seem to be a John Gregory to replace Brian Little type punt. I would be seriously underwhelmed/concerned considering how bad we were last season when he was here.
Thomas Tuchel - most likely would wait for a Champions League giant, seems less invested in the Premier League to me than Pochettino
Thomas Frank - I think Brentford's success is as much down to their data-driven system as it is the manager, so a gut-feel "no" from me (but his candidacy perhaps deserves better scrutiny).
Sean Dyche - I fear an Allardyce at Newcastle situation
Ralph Hassenhuttl - I'm not sure what to make of him, the fact that he's lasted so long at Southampton shows that he's got something about him but I can't say he's ever caught my eye (unlike his waistcoats)
Marcelo Bielsa - Fuck, yes please. It would be amazing whilst it lasted! Will never happen, am positive Purslow will consider him to be "too difficult".
Kjetil Knudsen - Norwegian league? This feels like a hipster's choice and I thought that was supposed to be Bo Svensson of Mainz.
John Terry - was it the loss of Terry or Richard O'Kelly that did for Dean Smith? No way the owners would let Purslow appoint a second "man-crush" surely.
Scott Parker - Gary O'Neill would be more likely.
Chris Wilder - there was a time that I would have jumped for him, but he's gone a bit Neil Warnock now.
Rafa Benitez - the owners' might have to remove Purslow first.
Dean Smith - never go back (see Graham Taylor II).
Jose Mourinho, Antonio Conte and Erik ten Hag - currently employed, don't understand why they are listed.
Steve Bruce - I assume this is one of those comedy odds (like Dwight Yorke).

Some managers not mentioned: Roberto Martinez and Gareth Southgate - these would depend on the owners' waiting until after the World Cup and could be somewhat tarnished by then by poor showings at the tournament. Put a gun to my head and I'd have Martinez over Southgate.

In summary, I think the owners have to move heaven and earth to get Pochettino, anyone else obtainable feels like a gamble. However those odds have a very English-centric feel to them and there must be a host of quality Italian, Spanish, German, etc managers out there with Champions League pedigree.

Edit: just realised that Brendon Rodgers is missing from those odds. He has some merit if you look at his career from a longer perspective than his team's recent form.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2022, 09:01:17 AM by Ivo Stas »

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1255 on: October 21, 2022, 09:00:53 AM »
If we can't get an elite manager, I'd rather we went for someone like Frank who seems on the way up than Rodgers who appears on the way down. Though I'd rather we appointed neither and just go for someone elite and sexy.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1256 on: October 21, 2022, 09:01:38 AM »
I hope we aren't. Go massive or don't fucking bother, Villa. No more "he'll do" appointments.
When was the last time we did that? O'Neill? Atkinson? We have a history of underwhelming managerial appointments spanning different owners.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1257 on: October 21, 2022, 09:03:28 AM »
Beale is favourite on Paddy Power at 9/4, followed by Poch at 11/4. Hopefully it's just as a result of punters lumping on Beale because of the Villa connection.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1258 on: October 21, 2022, 09:04:30 AM »
I would take Frank or Rodgers if you are doing current Premier League managers.

With Rodgers we'd be hoping we're the team to reignite his career. He's currently doing really badly with a team with attacking players like Tielemans, Barnes and Maddison in it.

But doing as well as us. His defence is shit and they sold out half of his squad from under him this summer.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1259 on: October 21, 2022, 09:08:30 AM »
I would take Frank or Rodgers if you are doing current Premier League managers.

With Rodgers we'd be hoping we're the team to reignite his career. He's currently doing really badly with a team with attacking players like Tielemans, Barnes and Maddison in it.

But doing as well as us. His defence is shit and they sold out half of his squad from under him this summer.

Actually even worse than us with 8 points. And the only players of note they sold were Schmeichel and Fofana.

 


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