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Offline Proposition Joe

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1050 on: October 19, 2022, 07:02:05 PM »
Another piece from (Villa fan) Matt Law in the Telegraph. His second in a couple of days talking about Pochettino, but this is certainly more 'opinion' than a strong link. It's nice to see us being talked up a bit in the press though. (or will it make Sean Dyche's appointment all the more depressing?)
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Interesting that it mentions Sawiris as leading the recruitment process: I wonder whether this a shift away from it being led by Purslow or Lange? - if so, I wonder what Purslow will make of that?
I heard that Sawiris handled the JG transfer - so I wonder if there are certain things he does.  Clearly Purslow has played a big part in identifying SG before though

I heard he was also the one pushing for Thierry Henry, and was eventually overruled/talked out of it and we hired Deano instead.

So he may get us Poch, or we may end up with another ex-player he admired. Maybe Yorke's time has come at last ...

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1051 on: October 19, 2022, 07:12:32 PM »
Fuck. Thierry Henry. No thanks.

Lets go for Vieira.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1052 on: October 19, 2022, 07:13:55 PM »
Another piece from (Villa fan) Matt Law in the Telegraph. His second in a couple of days talking about Pochettino, but this is certainly more 'opinion' than a strong link. It's nice to see us being talked up a bit in the press though. (or will it make Sean Dyche's appointment all the more depressing?)
...
Interesting that it mentions Sawiris as leading the recruitment process: I wonder whether this a shift away from it being led by Purslow or Lange? - if so, I wonder what Purslow will make of that?
I heard that Sawiris handled the JG transfer - so I wonder if there are certain things he does.  Clearly Purslow has played a big part in identifying SG before though

I heard he was also the one pushing for Thierry Henry, and was eventually overruled/talked out of it and we hired Deano instead.

So he may get us Poch, or we may end up with another ex-player he admired. Maybe Yorke's time has come at last ...
Yep Poch or an Ex Arsenal legend (I think he was an arsenal fan)

Has Tony Adams left strictly yet?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1053 on: October 19, 2022, 07:16:31 PM »
Fuck. Thierry Henry. No thanks.

Lets go for Vieira.

I’d be well happy with Viera.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1054 on: October 19, 2022, 07:27:32 PM »
Id still take rogers

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1055 on: October 19, 2022, 07:29:54 PM »

Offline LeonW

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1056 on: October 19, 2022, 07:34:35 PM »

No, there are differentials. Some are prepared to work to longer term goals which benefit the club rather than themselves and for which they don't necessarily see the ROI on during their tenure. Building a club, a long-term culture and youth set up, etc. It's why when some managers leave they leave the club in a better situation then that which they inherited and why others leave a complete car crash of a situation. The prevalence of FFP is also a factor here in terms of decisions made and for whose benefit.

Well transfers are in the main the preserve of Purslow and Lange. Did you see Dean Smith object to the purchase of Danny Ings for example? As for the purchase of Dedoncker when he could have played Iroegbunam. We'd bought Kamara, and so Tim was allowed out on loan. Obviously nobody knew that Kamara was going to get a serious injury, but that was just unlucky. Just about everybody on here has said we made a mistake in not letting Keinan go on loan when he was younger, but now we're doing that with players like Tim I, it's a mistake?

We've heard before that transfers are the preserve of the manager, CEO and Head of football at Villa. I suspect that the increase in age profile of the signings we've made under Gerrard are at his request to do so. It can't be an accident that it's happened under his tenure.

Smith developed and improved players that he bought. It's why Mings, Cash, Grealish, Watkins and others became internationals. It might also have seen him say no to a Dendoncker because we'd want to develop a Tim, who even with Kamara signed we still had space for his alternate. When a manager loses his job it's because things are going wrong but it doesn't mean what he did and what he left behind wasn't an improvement on what he inherited. Smith left a better situation then inherited with more successes under his belt then failures. Gerrard won't.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1057 on: October 19, 2022, 08:11:32 PM »
Another piece from (Villa fan) Matt Law in the Telegraph. His second in a couple of days talking about Pochettino, but this is certainly more 'opinion' than a strong link. It's nice to see us being talked up a bit in the press though. (or will it make Sean Dyche's appointment all the more depressing?)
...
Interesting that it mentions Sawiris as leading the recruitment process: I wonder whether this a shift away from it being led by Purslow or Lange? - if so, I wonder what Purslow will make of that?
I heard that Sawiris handled the JG transfer - so I wonder if there are certain things he does.  Clearly Purslow has played a big part in identifying SG before though

I heard he was also the one pushing for Thierry Henry, and was eventually overruled/talked out of it and we hired Deano instead.


Henry turned us down.  Took the Monaco job a few days after. Started with them early Oct, sacked at the end of Jan in the same season.

Id still take rogers

And me.

Last summer I wouldn't have been against it. But getting the tin tack - or close to it - at Leicester and ending up at the Villa isn't the natural order of things.

You'd have to wonder how much the last few months (going back to the second half of last season) has taken out of him n'all. 
« Last Edit: October 19, 2022, 08:15:48 PM by KevinGage »

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1058 on: October 20, 2022, 08:02:49 AM »
Rogers !! He’s bottom of the league for fuck‘s sake
We might need a manager so let’s look for the one of the very few that is doing even worse than the one we’ve currently got

There’s reasons you say ?
Yeah there is he’s got a squad similar to ours in quality maybe even better and he’s doing worse with it, the reason he’s bottom is because he’s Lost it doesn’t know what he’s doing and he’s going through the motions trying to get the payoff, Why would we want someone like that

Do you guys just want us to keep going round in circles forever

Online ozzjim

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1059 on: October 20, 2022, 08:25:47 AM »
Rodgers is a 3 year manager. Good bounce, great 18 months, then downhill. Key with him is knowing when and how to replace him, but he would undoubtedly improve us short and medium term looking at his work everywhere he has been. If he won an FA cup along the way, i would be delighted.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1060 on: October 20, 2022, 08:35:13 AM »
Rodgers great 18 months - i would settle for a great 6 months at the moment (especially if he can win us the FA Cup)

Whoever it is, they will inherit a side that has a lot of very average footballers, and therefore will do well to keep us in this division.


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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1061 on: October 20, 2022, 08:37:11 AM »
Nonsense. A vaguely competent manager would have this lot mid-table.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1062 on: October 20, 2022, 08:45:25 AM »
Frank or Rodger’s is where my money would be


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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1063 on: October 20, 2022, 09:00:53 AM »
Frank = owners now aiming for also ran / don’t get relegated.  Rogers = can’t get anybody better because our transfer budget isn’t tempting enough. 

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1064 on: October 20, 2022, 09:03:43 AM »
We really have to be more ambitious than 'Brentford flavour of month' or 'solid, didn't get relegated' or (a phrase that makes me chuck up my lunch) 'he'll do a job'. We need someone who we really think is top level, who gets the modern game from top to bottom, who hasn't been left behind. Pochettino, sure, but it's ambitious. We need more than 'Pochettino orrrrrr Sean Dyche? That bloke at the Bees?'. That's not a plan.

 


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