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Offline ozzjim

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1005 on: October 19, 2022, 01:27:42 PM »
Beale close to going to Wolves according to Ornstein at the athletic

Offline rougegorge

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1006 on: October 19, 2022, 01:35:29 PM »
Managerial appointments since i've been a fan;

Name   - Reaction - Reality
Venglos - Who? - Obscure and not a good fit for our game.
Big Ron - Hell Yeah - Great appointment but seem to lose interest when he knew he'd have to rebuild *
Little - Exciting, logical choice - Very good also but made a couple of bad record signings.
Gregory - Why? - Turned out a lot better than i thought but the football was uninspiring
SGT - Exciting but is he past it? - Turned out he was
DOL - Not impressed - Turned out better than i thought to start with but didn't last
MON - Hell yeah - Got us to where i thought he would but seemed to run out of ideas. Good overall *
Houllier - Bit of a panic, could have been worse - Worse than i thought but was in bad health.
McLeish - WTF - Turned out as bad as expected
Lambert - Similar to Little but without the Villa connection - Big Disappointment
Sherwood - Err, not much experience for starters - Turned out really poor after decent start
Garde - Why? - Possibly the worst of the lot
De Matteo - See Sherwood - Very mediocre and taking us no where
Bruce - Better than the last few - Boring football but ok otherwise until last few months
Smith - See Little (but for the championship) - Great appointment at the time but needed to upgrade
Gerrard - No relevant experience, probably a mistake - It has been a mistake.
Pochetinho?? - Hell Yeah *

I've starred the ones that gave / give real confidence in improving us dramatically.

I agree with most of this:

Good ones: Atkinson, Little, O'Neill (notwithstanding what happened at the end)
Exceeded expectations: Smith, Gregory
About par for the course: O'Leary, McLeish, Bruce (we did actually play some good football with a lot of goals and points in 2017-18)
Below par (although below par is good in golf!) - Taylor (mark 2), McLeish, Houllier, Sherwood, Di Matteo, Gerrard
Poor: Venglos, Lambert (the fans misguided choice as it turned out and stayed too long)
Worse: Garde

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1007 on: October 19, 2022, 01:36:56 PM »
Beale close to going to Wolves according to Ornstein at the athletic

That seems a bit of a punt after less than three months as a no 1

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1008 on: October 19, 2022, 01:52:20 PM »
Beale close to going to Wolves according to Ornstein at the athletic

That seems a bit of a punt after less than three months as a no 1

And a smack in the face to QPR as he was apprently one of their own!
Maybe he will be looking to take SG as his number 2!!

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1009 on: October 19, 2022, 01:52:36 PM »
Beale close to going to Wolves according to Ornstein at the athletic

That seems a bit of a punt after less than three months as a no 1

Would be his 4th job in 12 months, bloody hell.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1010 on: October 19, 2022, 01:55:16 PM »
I would say this after all their shit for finishing mid table and above us the last few years, but Beale stinks of “ can’t get anyone decent “ to me.

We were awful from Jan onwards with him as coach. Hopefully agent Beale takes them down.

They score less than we do , it’ stands a chance

Offline oldhill_avfc

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1011 on: October 19, 2022, 02:01:17 PM »
3 appointments in my Villa supporting life that seemed absolutely right at the time were:

1. SGT Mk1 - we were in dire need of his overall (on & off the field) managerial skills
2. O'Neill - he had a track record that implied he could could moves us onwards and upwards
3. Deano - after the dismal seasons that preceded him - to have him alongside Jack created a massive positive lift in villa 'togetherness' and a unified fight for promotion and staying there

The rest of the appointments were either let's see what happens (eg Saunders) or downright disasters from the start (Mcleish, Di matteo, Garde, Bruce, Gerrard)

Offline Villatillidie25

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1012 on: October 19, 2022, 02:01:29 PM »
Have you seen more half-hearted and dispirited body language?

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1582390665627176960?t=FEqGkC1oF8JhPjtGAuHtvg&s=19

wow - so much for training with the intensity of matchday. no wonder we always look so off the pace and our running numbers are always poor

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1013 on: October 19, 2022, 02:02:11 PM »
One things for sure, it's going to be a very interesting watch to see how he goes.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1014 on: October 19, 2022, 02:03:50 PM »
3 appointments in my Villa supporting life that seemed absolutely right at the time were:

1. SGT Mk1 - we were in dire need of his overall (on & off the field) managerial skills
2. O'Neill - he had a track record that implied he could could moves us onwards and upwards
3. Deano - after the dismal seasons that preceded him - to have him alongside Jack created a massive positive lift in villa 'togetherness' and a unified fight for promotion and staying there

The rest of the appointments were either let's see what happens (eg Saunders) or downright disasters from the start (Mcleish, Di matteo, Garde, Bruce, Gerrard)

Ron Atkinson was absolutely the right man at the right time, to me as a 14 year old at the time and in retrospect.

Offline oldhill_avfc

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1015 on: October 19, 2022, 02:07:11 PM »
My memory of him was wondering if he was a bit passed it - possibly had faded from his WBA heyday - so have him the maybe category in my head

Offline LeeB

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1016 on: October 19, 2022, 02:15:02 PM »
My memory of him was wondering if he was a bit passed it - possibly had faded from his WBA heyday - so have him the maybe category in my head

He'd rejuvenated himself with the Wednesday job and was still box office, the scandal at him dumping them for us only made it feel more significant.

Oh to have someone with his ability to spend the record fee recieved for your best player that the whole team was built around, and make a better one.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1017 on: October 19, 2022, 02:16:51 PM »
3 appointments in my Villa supporting life that seemed absolutely right at the time were:

1. SGT Mk1 - we were in dire need of his overall (on & off the field) managerial skills
2. O'Neill - he had a track record that implied he could could moves us onwards and upwards
3. Deano - after the dismal seasons that preceded him - to have him alongside Jack created a massive positive lift in villa 'togetherness' and a unified fight for promotion and staying there

The rest of the appointments were either let's see what happens (eg Saunders) or downright disasters from the start (Mcleish, Di matteo, Garde, Bruce, Gerrard)

Ron Atkinson was absolutely the right man at the right time, to me as a 14 year old at the time and in retrospect.

Big Ron was perfect at the time. Loved that attitude and personality he brought to the job. Little was the right man to succeed him too. Both were good appointments.

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1018 on: October 19, 2022, 02:29:04 PM »
He was the best one for me also, one of the biggest names in the British game at the time with a good track record and as pointed out he had the whole larger than life persona and played very attractive football as well. One that you knew would get some big name players in too.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #1019 on: October 19, 2022, 02:43:28 PM »
3 appointments in my Villa supporting life that seemed absolutely right at the time were:

1. SGT Mk1 - we were in dire need of his overall (on & off the field) managerial skills
2. O'Neill - he had a track record that implied he could could moves us onwards and upwards
3. Deano - after the dismal seasons that preceded him - to have him alongside Jack created a massive positive lift in villa 'togetherness' and a unified fight for promotion and staying there

The rest of the appointments were either let's see what happens (eg Saunders) or downright disasters from the start (Mcleish, Di matteo, Garde, Bruce, Gerrard)

I guess to be fair to Nan's Hair, that getting to a play off final was at least half decent.

I think it shows is that regardless of who the manager is, if you don't support them, they don't stand a chance.

 


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