Next Manager Speculation/Hopes

[KevinGage]

TBF I think they thought that SG would do that - but I think they underestimated just how difficult it is to manage a club like Villa.   To an extent - I think DS made it look too easy. 

There's prob a degree of truth to that.

I also think Smith was/is more of a people person. Whereas SG doesn't strike me as that.

Might have either been in the promotion season or our first season back and someone asked him whether he read the riot act to the players after a bad performance and he said, paraphrasing, no. Because we need those same players next week and I work hard at trying to have a neutral response. He said he had done that early on at his time at Walsall and realised there was no benefit to it.

John Terry shortly after he'd left Villa (or maybe shortly after Smith had been sacked) was asked in a TV interview what had he learned from Deano and he said man management and a more considerate approach to players.  He'd been in high-performance dressing rooms where excuses were not tolerated (no excuses, sound familiar?)

Shortly after the Covid lockdown an unnamed Villa player kept on coming in late to training and looked distracted when he did turn up.  Terry said to his mind it was unacceptable and he wanted to bawl the player out. Smith said maybe find out what was going on in his personal life. Can't recall if it was a first  child or summat else, but the long and short of it is the club gave him a bit of breathing space and the player responded with key performances in our run in.

You need to strike a balance, obviously. Or else you get pisstakers like Gabby, Micah Richards and Ross McCormack taking over the asylum.

But players in our bracket probably respond better to the collaborative approach of a Dean Smith or similar rather than a Roy Keane or Steve Gerrard nausing them out about how many trophies they've won etc.

[eamonn]

No idea, but John Percy retweeted it.

Yeah but man is always gonna support his colleague in public, even if he's shit. I'm sure you've done it yourself!

[LeeB]

If Percy is involved I am going to get my hopes up!

Poch is a big fan of "Gangsters, Geezers and Mods" from what I've heard, so it's got legs

[exigo]

Poch and a quality round badge, that's all I ask.

[Ian.]

Are we going to do a Spurs and sack our manager with another already lined up raring to go?

Or, do a Villa and sack our manager, Poch says no and we get Southgate.

[cdbearsfan]

This Southgate talk is insane. He isn't available. He isn't going to be available.

[Sexual Ealing]

No idea, but John Percy retweeted it.

Yeah but man is always gonna support his colleague in public, even if he's shit. I'm sure you've done it yourself!

Eamonn, I'd retweet YOU. That's how little I respect my Twitter profile.

[LeeB]

TBF I think they thought that SG would do that - but I think they underestimated just how difficult it is to manage a club like Villa.   To an extent - I think DS made it look too easy. 

There's prob a degree of truth to that.

I also think Smith was/is more of a people person. Whereas SG doesn't strike me as that.

Might have either been in the promotion season or our first season back and someone asked him whether he read the riot act to the players after a bad performance and he said, paraphrasing, no. Because we need those same players next week and I work hard at trying to have a neutral response. He said he had done that early on at his time at Walsall and realised there was no benefit to it.

John Terry shortly after he'd left Villa (or maybe shortly after Smith had been sacked) was asked in a TV interview what had he learned from Deano and he said man management and a more considerate approach to players.  He'd been in high-performance dressing rooms where excuses were not tolerated (no excuses, sound familiar?)

Shortly after the Covid lockdown an unnamed Villa player kept on coming in late to training and looked distracted when he did turn up.  Terry said to his mind it was unacceptable and he wanted to bawl the player out. Smith said maybe find out what was going on in his personal life. Can't recall if it was a first  child or summat else, but the long and short of it is the club gave him a bit of breathing space and the player responded with key performances in our run in.

You need to strike a balance, obviously. Or else you get pisstakers like Gabby, Micah Richards and Ross McCormack taking over the asylum.

But players in our bracket probably respond better to the collaborative approach of a Dean Smith or similar rather than a Roy Keane or Steve Gerrard nausing them out about how many trophies they've won etc.

There wasn't anything that man wouldn't do for the benefit of Aston Villa. That's what the difference was, regardless off tactical acumen or anything else, there was trust.

The players, the staff and then fans, we trusted him.and he never let us down.

[Ian.]

This Southgate talk is insane. He isn't available. He isn't going to be available.

I was only joking and I couldn’t think of someone as bad as when we appointed McLeish.

[Villa in Denmark]

This Southgate talk is insane. He isn't available. He isn't going to be available.

I was only joking and I couldn’t think of someone as bad as when we appointed McLeish.

Dyche?

[cdbearsfan]

This Southgate talk is insane. He isn't available. He isn't going to be available.

I was only joking and I couldn’t think of someone as bad as when we appointed McLeish.

Sorry. A few people have suggested him in earnest.

[Ian.]

I guess at times like this it might not be wise to say a name in Jest. I did watch Candyman and I know how that turned out.

[Ian.]

This Southgate talk is insane. He isn't available. He isn't going to be available.

I was only joking and I couldn’t think of someone as bad as when we appointed McLeish.

Dyche?

Oh dear. I don’t know what’s worse, waiting for Truss to go and be replaced by another moron or Villa sacking Gerrard and appointing another duffer.

[brontebilly]

Brentford were a good, attractive team when he took over.

Kudos to him for finally getting them up. But any time I've seen them recently they look closer to Wimbledon circa 88 now. Not for me.

They are a well run club. We aren't. We need someone to come in who has experience of turning around a bit of a mess. Poch and Tuchel both fit the bill but both simply have to sign up to the DOF model. Tuchel would have no issues with it anyway, he whinged like crazy last summer when Chelsea sacked Cech and all the support staff.

[BC Villain]

Poch would be a real statement of intent from NSWE.  He'd be brilliant for some of our talented young players.  I just think it's too big an ask to convince him.  He'd certainly want to move a load of the current first team on if he did come