Next Manager Speculation/Hopes

[lovejoy]

Everton appointed Ancelotti. We can appoint Pochettino. The desperation of some our own fans to talk us down is ridiculous. Maybe we have the team we deserve.

...and look what happened there, he tipped off as soon as a more lucrative offer came along.

Yes, sure. But that isn't relevant in discussing whether Villa could appoint a similar big name, which was what was being debated.

You don't think if we went for a big name that after a year if Real Madrid came knocking they'd leave?

Southgate goes after the world cup unless England reach the semis. he's done, found out, toast. good day to you sir, good day.

[lovejoy]

As ever with this debate we wont know if it worth sticking or twisting until we know who the new guy is.

For instance if I were offered Lampard, Southgate, Dyche I'd stick.

In what universe would we be limited to those three?

Since O'Neill left we have appointed Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce, Smith and Gerrard. That universe.

[LeeB]

Everton appointed Ancelotti. We can appoint Pochettino. The desperation of some our own fans to talk us down is ridiculous. Maybe we have the team we deserve.

...and look what happened there, he tipped off as soon as a more lucrative offer came along.

Yes, sure. But that isn't relevant in discussing whether Villa could appoint a similar big name, which was what was being debated.

You don't think if we went for a big name that after a year if Real Madrid came knocking they'd leave?

Southgate goes after the world cup unless England reach the semis. he's done, found out, toast. good day to you sir, good day.

I'm happy to take that risk. Rather have a manager that we might lose to Real Madrid than one whose next gig would be somewhere like West Brom.

[lovejoy]

Or Liverpool?

[Billy Walker]

Everton appointed Ancelotti. We can appoint Pochettino. The desperation of some our own fans to talk us down is ridiculous. Maybe we have the team we deserve.

...and look what happened there, he tipped off as soon as a more lucrative offer came along.

Everton were/are skint though.  It's down to Sawiris and Edens to outline an ambitious vision and hand out a contract to match.

[LeeB]

Or Liverpool?

I've got as much chance of getting the Liverpool job as Gerrard has.

[Sexual Ealing]

As ever with this debate we wont know if it worth sticking or twisting until we know who the new guy is.

For instance if I were offered Lampard, Southgate, Dyche I'd stick.

In what universe would we be limited to those three?

Since O'Neill left we have appointed Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce, Smith and Gerrard. That universe.

Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde and Bruce were appointed under clown car administrations. Smith was a great appointment; Gerrard a terrible one. The point is that we're only looking at the likes of failed or failing English managers if there is nobody at the club with a scintilla of imagination. Given we appointed Gerrard, I'm prepared to accept that's possible, but it doesn't have to be that way.

[Risso]

Everton appointed Ancelotti. We can appoint Pochettino. The desperation of some our own fans to talk us down is ridiculous. Maybe we have the team we deserve.

...and look what happened there, he tipped off as soon as a more lucrative offer came along.

Everton were/are skint though.  It's down to Sawiris and Edens to outline an ambitious vision and hand out a contract to match.

"Transfer budget is £50m, but you have to sell a player before you buy another one."

Yep, that should have Champions League standard managers beating a path to our door.

[cdbearsfan]

Everton appointed Ancelotti. We can appoint Pochettino. The desperation of some our own fans to talk us down is ridiculous. Maybe we have the team we deserve.

...and look what happened there, he tipped off as soon as a more lucrative offer came along.

Yes, sure. But that isn't relevant in discussing whether Villa could appoint a similar big name, which was what was being debated.

You don't think if we went for a big name that after a year if Real Madrid came knocking they'd leave?

Southgate goes after the world cup unless England reach the semis. he's done, found out, toast. good day to you sir, good day.

Let's never try appointing a good manager or signing any decent players ever again then. They'll only leave, why bother? We are only little Aston Villa and should know our place.

There is no way Southgate gets sacked after making a semis and England's first final in fifty-five years, unless England get knocked out in the Group Stage. Which is virtually impossible as the group is a piece of piss. Even if they do, though, I suspect that if we are still without a new manager in December then Gerrard is here until at least the end of the season so it's irrelevant. There is more chance of them giving McLeish another go than there is of Southgate becoming Aston Villa manager this season. The future, who knows? I hope not. But he won't be out of a job the next time we are looking for one unless Gerrard improves massively.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Everton appointed Ancelotti. We can appoint Pochettino. The desperation of some our own fans to talk us down is ridiculous. Maybe we have the team we deserve.

...and look what happened there, he tipped off as soon as a more lucrative offer came along.

Yes, sure. But that isn't relevant in discussing whether Villa could appoint a similar big name, which was what was being debated.

You don't think if we went for a big name that after a year if Real Madrid came knocking they'd leave?

I'd add that Ancelotti had already a successful spell at Real, knew the club and what was expected. Plus, turn them down and they won't be asking you again.

[SoccerHQ]

Rumour is Poch turned us down.

Emery chat i could believe

I would love him but he turned Newcastle down because they didn't have a "clear vision".

I dread to think what he'd make of us then

I think a lot of that was timing though, he was in the middle of an unexpected run to the Champions League knock out stages with Villareal, had that not been the case I think he'd have gone.

He's clearly a talented guy, but I've said before I think he'll struggle again in the UK because he comes across a little bit ridiculous in English, his thin reedy voice and appearance kind of undermines his role. I know that sounds shallow and shouldn't matter but it does.

The guy can coach. Villareal been excellent in both their european runs and did a great number on Man. United in the europa final.

He would provide us with structure and at Arsenal gave likes of Saka and Smith Rowe their debuts so o.k with throwing youth in when they're ready.

Even at Arsenal it wasn't a disaster. 5th and europa final in his only full season. Went wrong in next one but Arteta was still finishing 8th 18 months later so was always going to be a long rebuild post Wenger.

Him on the verge of joining Newcastle a year ago suggests in his mind he feels he has unfinished business in premier league so could be one to approach during world cup break.

[SoccerHQ]

Julen Lopetegui turned down Wolves as he wants the Villa job?

His Dad is ill so dosen't want to leave Spain.

[chrisw1]

I think Southgate would join us after the World Cup if we wanted him.  He's had a few big tournaments now and a plumb job in the PL would probably be really appealing as a new challenge.

I just hope to god we are not fucking stupid enough to offer it to him.

[cdbearsfan]

As I said, very unlikely we are after a new manager in December. Gerrard'll be sacked by the World Cup, or given serious time to turn it around. There would be little point in allowing him to stay on, watch the World Cup, have another transfer window and then sack him, if the board still didn't think he was up to it.

[LeeB]

I think Southgate would join us after the World Cup if we wanted him.  He's had a few big tournaments now and a plumb job in the PL would probably be really appealing as a new challenge.

I just hope to god we are not fucking stupid enough to offer it to him.

It the hope that kills you.