Aston Villa 0 West Ham 1. Post Match Anger.

[Goldenballs]

There was still the usual scrotes popping on a hi-vis and charging everyone £5 to park on the road. No point arguing with them especially when we've got a kid with us, and don't fancy coming back to a scratched car.

[usav]

I think there is a little bit of an over-reaction going on.  Yes, it's not been a good start, but we were the better team yesterday in the first half and ultimately lost on a deflected goal.  The problem he has is that we will lose the next two games and then his position is pretty much untenable. 

I said it before the season started, that the best 3 midfielders are Ramsay, Luiz & Kamara.   The problem he has is that he made McGinn the captain and he won't drop him.   Coutinho needs to sit until he finds his form, at least we get work rate out of Emi.

[dave.woodhall]

There was still the usual scrotes popping on a hi-vis and charging everyone £5 to park on the road. No point arguing with them especially when we've got a kid with us, and don't fancy coming back to a scratched car.

Tell the police and the council. They've dealt with similar before.

[Risso]

Well in truth in was a poor game of football, and in the end the main difference I guess was luck - bad luck for Villa that Digne’s corner just drifted out of play, and good luck for West Ham that Fornal’s speculative shot deflected over the keeper.

Moyes got our formation horribly wrong first half. Id hoped that it’d be a 3-4-3 but it ended up a flat back 5 with 2 DMs and Fornals barely getting forward. The net result was that West Ham offered no attack threat, and constantly gave the ball back to Villa. Nonetheless we were solud at the back and, in truth, Villa didn’t seem to have a lot of ideas of how to score despite the quality players you have.

Luckily Moyes saw the error of his ways and brought Benrahma on. The second half wasn’t vintage but it was better. Gerrard taking Luis off, who I thought was playing alright, seemed to open things up and create more space for us which led to the goal. The result never really looked in doubt after that, and there was no expected Villa onslaught.

You lot dont seem to have any balance to your team, and I cant work out what Gerrard is doing. I was concerned about Ings before the game, but I dont remember him doing anything. Im also not sure what McGinns role is supposed to be? When we played you before Cash was great down the right, getting crosses in. One of your best players, but he didnt seem to get forward as much yesterday.

Youve added some great players on paper but the team looks like its gone backwards if anything.

Two teams devoid of confidence in a game settled by a bit of good fortune in West Ham's favour. I thought Rice and Soucek were really poor, have they been like that for a while? Apart from one trademark surging run second half Rice did very little all game, where usually he murders us. I feared the worst when I saw the teams lining up for the handshakes. It was hard to know who was the mascot and who was the player with Coutinho, then down the line there was this big tattooed beast for West Ham. Needn't have worried though, he was absolutely dreadful.

Zouma might be a deeply rubbish human being, but he's a very good defender, and he won everything in the air.

[Risso]

I think there is a little bit of an over-reaction going on.  Yes, it's not been a good start, but we were the better team yesterday in the first half and ultimately lost on a deflected goal.  The problem he has is that we will lose the next two games and then his position is pretty much untenable. 

I said it before the season started, that the best 3 midfielders are Ramsay, Luiz & Kamara.   The problem he has is that he made McGinn the captain and he won't drop him.   Coutinho needs to sit until he finds his form, at least we get work rate out of Emi.

Ramsey has been rubbish for ages now. He's a young player still, so you expect the ups and downs in form, but he was rightly dropped yesterday. He was terrible when he came on too. If it was my job on the line against Arsenal on Wednesday, I think I'd go:

Martinez

Cash Konsa Chambers Digne

Luiz Kamara

Buendia McGinn Coutinho

Watkins

Not that it would probably make much difference, it all feels like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic at the moment.

[Clampy]

Interesring line up there Risso. You've been slaughtering  McGinn for ages, saying how he should be dropped, he's fat and what a terrible foootballer he is.

[Legion]

I'd go

Martinez Olsen

Cash Konsa Mings Chambers Digne

Luiz McGinn (lying down) Kamara

Watkins

[SoccerHQ]

Coutinho is injured, he'll put Bailey back in.....if he's still here.

[Mister E]

I think there is a little bit of an over-reaction going on ... his position is pretty much untenable. 

I think you pretty much answered your own point there.

[Risso]

Interesring line up there Risso. You've been slaughtering  McGinn for ages, saying how he should be dropped, he's fat and what a terrible foootballer he is.

He's all of those things, but we don't have anybody else.

[Richard]

I'd drop McGinn and play Luiz Bailey and Buendia behind Watkins with Kamara and Tim or Nakamba pivoting.

[Toronto Villa]

McGinn shouldn’t be starting. It should be Luiz, Kamara and Buendia, with Bailey wide right and Coutinho on the left. JJ needs to play in the middle whenever he does start or comes on. Not on the left where he is isolated. And our full backs should be full backs and occasionally overlap. What Matt Targett did for example but we now have a superior LB at both attacking and defending. But Digne isn’t Maldini and Cash isn’t the “real” Cafu or Dani Alves. Let them defend first and we won’t get torn to shreds.

[brontebilly]

Not too long ago we went to Arsenal and annihilated them. It's really hard to fathom how both clubs have diverged so much since then. From a NSWE perspective we must have looked like we would be pushing past the likes of Arsenal and Spurs then but it's gone to shit since. It can't just be about the loss of Grealish.

Looking at the Arsenal side that played that night, you do see parallels to our situation. A load of piss weak players like Pepe and Ceballos who were lost in the PL. Others like Willian long past it and a talented but troublesome captain Auba (not saying Mings is btw). To be fair to Arteta he made some hard decisions that cost them in the short term (letting Auba go on a free when they had no forwards), recognizing his mistake with Willian etc But a real focus on young quick players has helped them. They look a really good team these days.

[Clampy]

Another thing from yesterday is that penalty shout we had in the second half which VAR looked at for a whole 20 seconds again. Was there anything in it?

[Risso]

Not too long ago we went to Arsenal and annihilated them. It's really hard to fathom how both clubs have diverged so much since then. From a NSWE perspective we must have looked like we would be pushing past the likes of Arsenal and Spurs then but it's gone to shit since. It can't just be about the loss of Grealish.

Looking at the Arsenal side that played that night, you do see parallels to our situation. A load of piss weak players like Pepe and Ceballos who were lost in the PL. Others like Willian long past it and a talented but troublesome captain Auba (not saying Mings is btw). To be fair to Arteta he made some hard decisions that cost them in the short term (letting Auba go on a free when they had no forwards), recognizing his mistake with Willian etc But a real focus on young quick players has helped them. They look a really good team these days.

They've spent about £250m in the last 12 months.