Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post Debacle Thread

[manic-road]

Another long drive, another load of shit. Outplayed all over the pitch and no plan b. Gerrard needs to step up and pronto. Fed up.

Same here, just got back to hear we have agreed a deal for Sarr. We are desperate for some steel in the middle, we were out fought and out played today.

Digne was really poor, we were caught out yet agsin by long balls, in the first half Digne was way out wide leaving huge gaps at the back.

[eamonn]

I know I've banged on about Sanson not getting a chance, but Jesus wept, when Gerrard says yesterday that he has trained well his attitude has been first class, how the hell can he not even get on the bench ahead of the non-performers in front of him?

Even Marv must have felt pissed-off watching on. A big reason why we won this game last season was down to his performance.

[eamonn]

This corker from the Guardian comments section on the game:

Eez are good, Eez are good, it’s Eberechi good! Hahaha!

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Anyone got any Vieiras?

[LeeB]

This corker from the Guardian comments section on the game:

Eez are good, Eez are good, it’s Eberechi good! Hahaha!

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Anyone got any Vieiras?

He absolutely bossed the game as well.

[eamonn]

Gerrard interview with BBC WM: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0cvcgfp

As expected the VAR decision is dwelt-on. Nothing about how we get lucky with their offside goal and the fact that Palace merited their lead for dominating play and making the most chances.

[pelty]

Is it reactionary to want Gerrard out? I just do not think he is anywhere close to the standard.

But if you asked Arsenal fans this question after three games last year, they would have said the same. They had a young manager with players not playing cohesively. They lost to a team promoted, etc. There was not much that I saw in the way they played that made me think they were going to turn it around. But they did.

Now, I do not think we are in line for a turn around of that ilk, but could we be? Do we  shoot ourselves in the foot by making managerial changes with some regularity?

This is more a philosophical question. My gut says to get rid.

[ROBBO]

Gerrards judgement is woeful, making a player who is struggling every week captain was ludicrous, thought the midfield looked better once McGinn was subbed, probably because he was very close to a red card. Him and Ramsey in midfield are far to light and easily bullied, I make allowences for Jacob because he would be brilliant with better players around him.Thought for a long time that Digne wasn't an upgrade on what we already had. Ings never got near the ball when he came on, Watkihs showed what he could do with decent service and Buendia was great in the first half until the Palace manager shut him down. How about we play wingers as wingers and full back as defenders for a couple of weeks, I know it's novel but you never know.

[Hillbilly]

Ponderous.

[Beard82]

Is it reactionary to want Gerrard out? I just do not think he is anywhere close to the standard.

But if you asked Arsenal fans this question after three games last year, they would have said the same. They had a young manager with players not playing cohesively. They lost to a team promoted, etc. There was not much that I saw in the way they played that made me think they were going to turn it around. But they did.

Now, I do not think we are in line for a turn around of that ilk, but could we be? Do we  shoot ourselves in the foot by making managerial changes with some regularity?

This is more a philosophical question. My gut says to get rid.

He’ll get more time because there is too much invested in him.  Don’t see it going anywhere but think admiring it was a mistake has too many implications for CP

[PeterWithe]

Second best to a very good Palace team, they were quicker, stronger and their first touch was universally sound whereas ours wasnt and triggered their press which made us look poor again and again and again.

Everyone used to take the piss out of Dean Smith when he talked of ‘setting traps’ but Palace killed us with theirs, allow Tyrone the ball, then press the FBs and central MFs, force him to go back to EM who kicks long, they get the ball back and attack us with numbers. Gerrard totally outdone by Vierra today.

High spots? Martinez kept the score respectable.

[pooligan]

What a depressing day for Aston Villa  ,outplayed at Selhurst Park  and outclassed at Bodymoor Heath  by Crystal Palace by a combined score of 7 1 Under this management the club are getting worse

[OzVilla]

Nice of Konsa to escort Zaha down the field for the equaliser.

[LeeB]

Nice of Konsa to escort Zaha down the field for the equaliser.

"And which corner would sir like to fire the ball into?"

[eamonn]

Their first goal came from Buendia looking for a penalty. So frustrating that we could be undone by one punt upfield from their defender. Great finish from Zaha but Konsa showed him way too much respect.

[Perthvillan]

Apart from first 10 mins and last 15 (when the game was already decided) we were not only outplayed all over the pitch but outclassed by Palace.
They just did everything better than us and even if you take into account the dodgy penalty decision we got what we deserved.
I don't think any of us were convinced with the win last week and I think yesterday was worse that the performance at Bournemouth, and that is saying something.
For Gerrard to say that the game was still up for grabs at 1-1 means that he is either deluded or doesn't want to accept any responsibility for that dross.
We could have easily been 4-1 down when they got that penalty.
I fear worrying times ahead.
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