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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #375 on: May 08, 2023, 10:09:07 PM »
There's already an agreed permanent fee for him with Watford, as part of his loan-deal last summer. Not sure if they have to follow through with it, I think the Athletic said it was around £10m. If not, we'll probably get half that amount selling him elsewhere.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #376 on: May 08, 2023, 11:31:44 PM »
Think it was an obligation if promoted so doubt they’ll take him

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #377 on: May 09, 2023, 09:14:47 AM »
There's already an agreed permanent fee for him with Watford, as part of his loan-deal last summer. Not sure if they have to follow through with it, I think the Athletic said it was around £10m. If not, we'll probably get half that amount selling him elsewhere.

I'm not sure it'll be half, he's worth £10m to someone (he'd be fantastic for Southampton down there for example). He's never going to score a hatful, 10-12 a season in the championship is probably about his peak, but he brings so much more on top that any team with goals elsewhere in the squad will benefit from him. Forest are a perfect example, he was a massive part of why they were promoted because him being there made the rest of their team better.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #378 on: May 09, 2023, 09:17:55 AM »
There's already an agreed permanent fee for him with Watford, as part of his loan-deal last summer. Not sure if they have to follow through with it, I think the Athletic said it was around £10m. If not, we'll probably get half that amount selling him elsewhere.

I'm not sure it'll be half, he's worth £10m to someone (he'd be fantastic for Southampton down there for example). He's never going to score a hatful, 10-12 a season in the championship is probably about his peak, but he brings so much more on top that any team with goals elsewhere in the squad will benefit from him. Forest are a perfect example, he was a massive part of why they were promoted because him being there made the rest of their team better.

Main issue with him is he cannot stay fit for long periods of time. Will always seem to miss a few months of the season without fail

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #379 on: May 09, 2023, 09:24:59 AM »
Davis is a good player but an average striker. His injury record is rotten, and that's always going to affect how he's viewed. He's got a goal in every four/five games at Forest and Watford, which would be OK if he was fit all the time, because as Paul says he offers more than just goals, but as he's often injured he's never going to be seen as a main man. He's 25 now, so he needs to move on. Could see the fee being anywhere between £5m and £10m.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #380 on: May 09, 2023, 09:32:10 AM »
There's already an agreed permanent fee for him with Watford, as part of his loan-deal last summer. Not sure if they have to follow through with it, I think the Athletic said it was around £10m. If not, we'll probably get half that amount selling him elsewhere.

I'm not sure it'll be half, he's worth £10m to someone (he'd be fantastic for Southampton down there for example).

They spent £15m on Onuachu in January, and I can't imagine he'd be going anywhere else - and he's the sort of "brilliant in Belgium, can't make the Premier League step-up" who would probably tear up the Championship anyway. At 6ft 7 he probably does the thing that a team would want Davis to do.

You wouldn't think Armstrong and Adams have done enough to warrant a Premier League side signing them either, and both have scored buckets in the Championship in the past, so I expect they're fully set for strikers.

Even a 34 year old Walcott will probably stick 15 away next season.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2023, 09:43:19 AM by Dave »

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #381 on: May 09, 2023, 09:47:49 AM »
There's already an agreed permanent fee for him with Watford, as part of his loan-deal last summer. Not sure if they have to follow through with it, I think the Athletic said it was around £10m. If not, we'll probably get half that amount selling him elsewhere.

I'm not sure it'll be half, he's worth £10m to someone (he'd be fantastic for Southampton down there for example).

They spent £15m on Onuachu in January, and I can't imagine he'd be going anywhere else - and he's the sort of "brilliant in Belgium, can't make the Premier League step-up" who would probably tear up the Championship anyway. At 6ft 7 he probably does the thing that a team would want Davis to do.

You wouldn't think Armstrong and Adams have done enough to warrant a Premier League side signing them either, and both have scored buckets in the Championship in the past, so I expect they're fully set for strikers.

Even a 34 year old Walcott will probably stick 15 away next season.

I'd forgotten about Onuachu to be fair but I was mostly thinking about how people like Adams and Armstrong would love to play alongside Davis and let him do all the dirty work for them. That said I think the same would be true for most of the sides in the relegation mix and for a fair few sides around the top half of the championship as well.

Davis is a good player but an average striker. His injury record is rotten, and that's always going to affect how he's viewed. He's got a goal in every four/five games at Forest and Watford, which would be OK if he was fit all the time, because as Paul says he offers more than just goals, but as he's often injured he's never going to be seen as a main man. He's 25 now, so he needs to move on. Could see the fee being anywhere between £5m and £10m.

Value is probably fair, i just think it'll be much closer to the top end of that scale, even iwth all the injuries he's a player that has a big impact on almost every game he plays, and for a team chasing promotion that's worth a gamble.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #382 on: May 09, 2023, 10:20:38 AM »
If Leicester stick with Smith when they go down, he could be an option there.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #383 on: May 09, 2023, 11:29:30 AM »
If Leicester stick with Smith when they go down, he could be an option there.

Yep, you wonder whether Vardy will realise he's past it and hang up his boots, or give it another year at a lower level.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #384 on: May 09, 2023, 02:10:04 PM »
If Leicester stick with Smith when they go down, he could be an option there.

Yep, you wonder whether Vardy will realise he's past it and hang up his boots, or give it another year at a lower level.

He's still got his stupid wife's legal bills to pay off, reckon he'll do another year down there.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #385 on: May 09, 2023, 02:16:40 PM »
If Leicester stick with Smith when they go down, he could be an option there.

I doubt they will, he's not exactly pulling up any trees there.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #386 on: May 09, 2023, 02:23:05 PM »
If Leicester stick with Smith when they go down, he could be an option there.

I doubt they will, he's not exactly pulling up any trees there.

He isn't, but can they afford anybody better?

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #387 on: May 09, 2023, 03:21:53 PM »
I found this on Twitter.  It's an interesting review of Iroegbunam from a QPR fan.

https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #388 on: May 09, 2023, 03:30:36 PM »
I found this on Twitter.  It's an interesting review of Iroegbunam from a QPR fan.

https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145

Interesting and positive stuff given QPR have had a poor season. Cheers for posting it.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #389 on: May 09, 2023, 04:52:17 PM »
Answering whether the thread is for Villa or QPR fans...

"For both to be honest, otherwise all you’ll hear about his loan will be a wishy washy article from “Birmingham Live”"

Birmingham Mail's reputation is broad lol.

 


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