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Title: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: UK Redsox on July 12, 2022, 11:44:52 AM
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Aston Villa can confirm Viljami Sinisalo and Finn Azaz will go out on loan to clubs in League One for the duration of the 2022/23 campaign.

Sinisalo heads to Burton Albion while Azaz will link up with Plymouth Argyle.

Goalkeeper Sinisalo has been a regular member of the senior goalkeeping cohort at Bodymoor Heath over the past year having spent time on loan with Ayr United during the 2020/21 campaign.

Azaz, who joined the club last summer, spent 2021/22 out on loan with Newport County and was named the League Two Young Player of the Season in addition to being included in the League Two Team of the Season. 

The midfielder has also put pen to paper on a new contract with the Club prior to heading to Home Park.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/july/11/villa-duo-head-out-on-loan/
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on July 12, 2022, 12:10:06 PM
Sensible. Gradually increasing the level they're playing at.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2022, 12:50:49 PM
I mostly agree but I think Sinisalo could've gone to a championship club and been fine.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on July 12, 2022, 12:52:07 PM
I mostly agree but I think Sinisalo could've gone to a championship club and been fine.
I think both should; or - at least - made these loans half-season with the option to send them into the C'ship for the second half.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2022, 12:52:32 PM
Would rather see him in League One playing every week then Championship sat on the bench. Twenty is young especially for a goalie and Martinez and Olsen have the top two spots wrapped up fot the foreseeable future so no harm him going to a Championship club next year to continue his development if he impresses with Burton.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: algy on July 12, 2022, 12:57:51 PM
Yeah, think playing regularly in League One is about right for Sinisalo, then could see him making the step up to the Championship next season.  Finn Azaz, I'd worry that he's starting to get to the age when you'd expect him to be pushing for a spot in the first team.  Half a season in league one, maybe, then push for a loan to a Championship side.  Just feel that if he's not got a bit of Championship football under his belt at 23, he's not ever going to be playing at a higher level than that.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 12, 2022, 02:31:59 PM
I did not realise Azaz was 23 - Grealish was i think 18 when he went to Notts county and i think Gabby was 19 at Sheff wed so a loan move at that age looks like he is a little behind in development
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Ger Regan on July 12, 2022, 02:51:49 PM
Azaz will be 22 in september. I'd imagine he's the type of player we'd be looking to sell on for a decent fee, rather than being a mainstay of our first team.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on July 12, 2022, 03:23:17 PM
Louie Barry apparently having a medical at MK as well, for a season-long loan.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 12, 2022, 07:47:10 PM
Azaz will be 22 in september. I'd imagine he's the type of player we'd be looking to sell on for a decent fee, rather than being a mainstay of our first team.

Arguably he has passed every test he has encountered to date so its unknown what his ceiling is.  He is clocking up minutes on the pitch so hopefully will be more “ready” if he is given a chance, like Dewsbury Hall for Leicester.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: UK Redsox on July 12, 2022, 10:29:51 PM
Louie Barry apparently having a medical at MK as well, for a season-long loan.

Confirmed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62143491

Thought that he might have gone to a Championship club, but they probably opted for somewhere that he should start regularly
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: algy on July 13, 2022, 06:40:47 AM
I did not realise Azaz was 23 - Grealish was i think 18 when he went to Notts county and i think Gabby was 19 at Sheff wed so a loan move at that age looks like he is a little behind in development
Bad wording on my part, meant Azaz will be 23* when he comes back off loan.


* Yeah, ok, it's technically 22 and 300-and-something days ...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dave P on July 13, 2022, 09:44:24 AM
I did not realise Azaz was 23 - Grealish was i think 18 when he went to Notts county and i think Gabby was 19 at Sheff wed so a loan move at that age looks like he is a little behind in development
Bad wording on my part, meant Azaz will be 23* when he comes back off loan.


* Yeah, ok, it's technically 22 and 300-and-something days ...


(https://i.ibb.co/QbRZL2K/Ca-Vj-Qt7-UMAEY4-IL.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QbRZL2K)
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 13, 2022, 10:28:48 AM
Louie Barry apparently having a medical at MK as well, for a season-long loan.

Confirmed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62143491

Thought that he might have gone to a Championship club, but they probably opted for somewhere that he should start regularly

I think it’s quite a big season for him, hopefully he kicks on.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Smithy on July 13, 2022, 11:05:41 AM
I'm surprised Azaz has only gone to League One.  Given he was in the League Two team of the season, I was sure a few Championship clubs would have been having a sniff for this season. That said, I do trust the club and what they are trying to do with loans these days, so wish him all the best on the south coast!

Interesting to see Barry following in KKH's footsteps again.  I do like that we are building relationships with some of the clubs in the lower leagues who play (or try to play) decent football, and are happy giving them promising youngsters on loan.   I'm sure they would be delighted to have one talented youngster per season from us for the foreseeable future.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens with KKH.  Will Gerrard move Guilbert on to make room for him in the first-team squad, or does a Championship loan beckon?  We've seen what a really good season as an attacking full-back can do at Championship level with Djed Spence last season (gone from unwanted at Boro to a £20m target for Spurs), but the competition for a starting place is much more fierce in the Championship than in League One.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 13, 2022, 11:08:56 AM
I did not realise Azaz was 23 - Grealish was i think 18 when he went to Notts county and i think Gabby was 19 at Sheff wed so a loan move at that age looks like he is a little behind in development
Bad wording on my part, meant Azaz will be 23* when he comes back off loan.


* Yeah, ok, it's technically 22 and 300-and-something days ...


(https://i.ibb.co/QbRZL2K/Ca-Vj-Qt7-UMAEY4-IL.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QbRZL2K)


Fucking Hell, and I thought I was contrary for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LeeB on July 13, 2022, 11:10:36 AM
That's some next level, sickbeggar style shit going on there.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 13, 2022, 11:14:42 AM
Fun fact: North Korean babies count as one when they're born, and everyone goes up a year on 1st January not their birthday. So if you were born on New Year's Eve, you'd be two a day later.

Okay, maybe not that "fun".
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on July 13, 2022, 11:44:04 AM
That sounds horrible. It's already bad enough, if you're born late in the calendar year. My sister was born on NYE. Most of the time if people ask her what year she was born, they assume she's already had her birthday in the current year and round-up her age. Drives her nuts, especially if she's asked it in Jan/Feb when she's not long had her "previous" birthday. I was born in November and feel it keenly, too.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 13, 2022, 01:14:10 PM
I was born on Christmas day... and it is a cnut...nothing more
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on July 13, 2022, 03:38:50 PM
Yeah...double whammy - publicly-aged prematurely and missing-out on unique birthday presents. T'int right at all.

Still, at least you had that lovely song by Saint Etienne/The Charlatans named after you.

Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LeeB on July 13, 2022, 03:40:35 PM
I was born on Christmas day... and it is a cnut...nothing more

I've always whined about being close, the 12th, and getting 'joint birthday and Christmas presents', but that would be shit.

My old man is on the 27th, and everyone forgets.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: SaddVillan on July 19, 2022, 10:05:38 PM
Only a friendly, but Finn Azaz knocked a 7th minute  25 yarder for Argyle tonight at Torquay.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dogtanian on July 19, 2022, 10:15:14 PM
Only a friendly, but Finn Azaz knocked a 7th minute  25 yarder for Argyle tonight at Torquay.

Nice one, hopefully he’s settling in and showing them all what he can do. A big part in these loans is giving your new team mates and coaches confidence in you, so that’s a great start.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on July 20, 2022, 05:12:45 PM
I was born on Christmas day... and it is a cnut...nothing more

I've always whined about being close, the 12th, and getting 'joint birthday and Christmas presents', but that would be shit.

My old man is on the 27th, and everyone forgets.

I'm the 12th and my dad is the 29th, that's nearly very creepy.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 20, 2022, 05:15:05 PM
I was born on Christmas day... and it is a cnut...nothing more

I've always whined about being close, the 12th, and getting 'joint birthday and Christmas presents', but that would be shit.

My old man is on the 27th, and everyone forgets.

I'm the 12th and my dad is the 29th, that's nearly very creepy.


My stepbrother shared a birthday with both his father and grandfather.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dogtanian on July 20, 2022, 06:55:32 PM
I was born on Christmas day... and it is a cnut...nothing more

I've always whined about being close, the 12th, and getting 'joint birthday and Christmas presents', but that would be shit.

My old man is on the 27th, and everyone forgets.

I'm the 12th and my dad is the 29th, that's nearly very creepy.


My stepbrother shared a birthday with both his father and grandfather.

…the same person?  :-\
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dave shelley on July 20, 2022, 07:14:46 PM
November is our dangerous month: Our eldest grandchild is the 6th, our daughter is the 12th, mine's the 28th and our son's is the 30th.

Our daughter-in law is Christmas Day and Mrs S has siblings that share August 1st as their birthday two years apart.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: SaddVillan on July 24, 2022, 02:23:37 AM
Only a friendly, but Finn Azaz knocked a 7th minute  25 yarder for Argyle tonight at Torquay.

Nice one, hopefully he’s settling in and showing them all what he can do. A big part in these loans is giving your new team mates and coaches confidence in you, so that’s a great start.

Another one for Azaz yesterday for Argyle in a friendly away at Yeovil Town. Close range tap in after the Yeovil keeper parried a shot. Argyle won 2-0.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dazvillain on July 26, 2022, 06:08:02 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/july/26/philogene-bidace-pens-new-deal-and-seals-loan-move/

Hoping for great things, contract extension also signed for JPB
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: RamboandBruno on July 26, 2022, 06:26:40 PM
November is our dangerous month: Our eldest grandchild is the 6th, our daughter is the 12th, mine's the 28th and our son's is the 30th.

Our daughter-in law is Christmas Day and Mrs S has siblings that share August 1st as their birthday two years apart.

My daughters bhday is xmas day, my wedding anniversary on the 29th and wifes bhday on 6th Jan. by 7th Jan im broke for the month and Villa have drawn ManUre in the 3rd of the cup.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 30, 2022, 04:56:50 PM
Winner for Azaz for Plymouth.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: SaddVillan on July 30, 2022, 05:18:29 PM
Currently being sung by the Devonport End at Home Park:

C'mon without, c'mon within. You've not see nothing like the Mightly Finn.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 30, 2022, 10:20:52 PM
Wesley scored for Levante.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2022, 10:23:08 PM
Wesley scored for Levante.

Good, hopefully does well enough for them to buy him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on July 30, 2022, 10:24:50 PM
Good. We have a pre-agreed fee for a decent amount (£9m I think) should he do well, this season according to Ashley Preece or similar.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2022, 10:33:45 PM
Was a neat finish, even if the 'stadium' looks to be the sort of place where Paget Rangers might be playing.  Not sure whether that was a league game or a friendly for Levante but happy to take their money.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Gerrin on July 31, 2022, 11:06:00 AM
Winner for Azaz for Plymouth.

This guy seems to really making a go offish loan spells. The Newport fans couldn't speak more highly off him. Looks like a real grafter this one, certainly not a Carney type.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on July 31, 2022, 02:25:34 PM
Wesley scored for Levante.

Excellent, that must have felt great for the lad. Pleased for him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on July 31, 2022, 02:28:37 PM
Self-interest apart, Wesley was dealt a really shit hand and has had a terrible couple of years and who knows what might have been if Mee hadn't ruined his career. Hope he has a great season and gets his career back on track.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: SaddVillan on July 31, 2022, 04:03:57 PM
Self-interest apart, Wesley was dealt a really shit hand and has had a terrible couple of years and who knows what might have been if Mee hadn't ruined his career. Hope he has a great season and gets his career back on track.

This.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: algy on August 05, 2022, 09:34:19 PM
Aaron Ramsey has gone to Norwich for the season

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/august/05/aaron-ramsey-pens-new-deal-and-heads-out-on-loan/
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on August 05, 2022, 09:55:48 PM
Wow, great move for him! Go Deano.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on August 05, 2022, 09:57:37 PM
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Ramsey, who will wear the number 20 shirt for Norwich, told canaries.co.uk: "I worked with Dean when he was at Villa and saw what he did for my brother, so hopefully he can do that for me.

"What I want to show the fans is that I can do things other people can’t do, I can score goals and get assists – I just love creating goals. 

"I’ve been to the training ground so many times and I know how nice it is around there. I’ve never played at Carrow Road before, but I can’t wait to play in front of the fans and show what I’m about."

Dean Smith added: “Aaron trained with the first team quite a lot when I was at Villa. He played during pre-season matches with us as well. He’s one that really excited myself and Shakey.

“He can score goals as well. Liam [Bramley] worked with him during their FA Youth Cup winning run as well, so we just felt that, having just lost Jonny Rowe to an injury, he’s a young one who can come in and we can help develop.

“He’s got great hunger and an urgency to learn and get better. He’s just on the back of winning the UEFA U19 tournament with England, so he’s a confident boy and has played a couple of games for Villa in pre-season against Walsall and Leeds in Australia."
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Matt C on August 05, 2022, 11:45:38 PM
Great move for him and we get to help Deano.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Smithy on August 06, 2022, 11:06:04 AM
This is a great move, assuming he gets a decent amount of pitch time. Norwich will be pushing for promotion, and be under pressure to win every week, so he’s going to have to perform at high level straight away to keep a match day shirt.

Hopefully this time next season, after tearing it up in the Championship, we’ll all be as excited about seeing him in a Villa shirt as we currently are with Archer…. Good luck Aaron!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on August 06, 2022, 11:20:17 AM
He's the one, even more than chucked-out-maker that I've had highest hopes for. Sets goals up and has a lethal finish on him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on August 13, 2022, 07:31:34 PM
Poor Aaron Ramz won't want to see this again (90 seconds in):



Deano already under a bit of pressure, Norwich bottom of the Ch'shit.

Maybe it's karma for that odd-looking away shirt of theirs? What colour is it...looks like a puddle of water after a rainbow has done its thing...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dogtanian on August 13, 2022, 07:46:52 PM
Poor Aaron Ramz won't want to see this again (90 seconds in):



Deano already under a bit of pressure, Norwich bottom of the Ch'shit.

Maybe it's karma for that odd-looking away shirt of theirs? What colour is it...looks like a puddle of water after a rainbow has done its thing...

I just described it as like Sully from Monsters Inc.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: UK Redsox on August 13, 2022, 09:23:16 PM
Finn scored for Plymouth & JPB scored for Caerdydd
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: algy on August 26, 2022, 05:29:48 PM
Ben Chrisenne's out on loan at Kilmarnock by the look of things:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/aston-villa-star-ben-chrisene-27832904
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 27, 2022, 01:30:31 AM
Finn scored for Plymouth & JPB scored for Caerdydd

Finn’s got three now this season.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Matt C on August 27, 2022, 02:38:55 PM
Aaron Ramsey setup the winner for Norwich today.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: robleflaneur on August 27, 2022, 02:56:08 PM
Ramsey getting a lot of praise from Norwich fans on their forum.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: adrenachrome on August 27, 2022, 02:57:23 PM
Aaron Ramsey setup the winner for Norwich today.

He looked the part.

Dean Smith brought him on in the 60th minute in a triple substitution, which made the difference.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on August 27, 2022, 04:42:44 PM
Norwich's forums are crap from what I've seen. Can't find much about Aaron Ramsey.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on August 27, 2022, 05:41:29 PM
Why, are they all yellow?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 27, 2022, 05:47:06 PM
Norwich's forums are crap from what I've seen. Can't find much about Aaron Ramsey.

Yep, had a quick look and the match thread on the Pink 'Un didn't even mention Ramsey's assist. It was however just as moany as ours albeit with less intemperate language.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: robleflaneur on August 27, 2022, 06:10:27 PM
I went on "Wrath of the Barclay" to see how Ramsey fared.Awful site but complimentary remarks.
Ben Chrisene played for Kilmarnock in their first win and according to BBC Scotland hit the underside of the bar.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: astonvilla82 on August 27, 2022, 06:21:44 PM
I went on "Wrath of the Barclay" to see how Ramsey fared.Awful site but complimentary remarks.
Ben Chrisene played for Kilmarnock in their first win and according to BBC Scotland hit the underside of the bar.
Kilmarnock fans please with him on their forum
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Richard on August 28, 2022, 01:57:38 PM
So how many do we have out on loan currently as feels like a whole 20 man squad!?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Londonvilla on September 04, 2022, 01:51:59 AM


We have a new star on our hands.....in Aaron Ramsey
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 04, 2022, 07:39:22 AM
Some positive comments here about Ramsey.  He seems to be growing into the task.
https://forum.pinkun.com/index.php?/topic/149545-ramsey/
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: PeterWithe on September 04, 2022, 09:44:19 AM
Norwich played some lovely stuff in that clip and could have had 10. Ramsey looked excellent, well done to him. I thought they’d got rid of that Cantwell fella, interesting to see him and Ramsey playing so well together.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Smithy on September 04, 2022, 10:37:01 AM
Looks like Ramsey Jnr is really finding his feet at Championship level, which is great news for us. Clearly he's got a bit about him for Dean to trust him through the middle like that, and better still, he's delivering.  Would love to see him and JJ play together in a successful first team.  Local brothers who came all the way through the youth system? Yes please!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LeeB on September 04, 2022, 10:54:01 AM
Norwich played some lovely stuff in that clip and could have had 10. Ramsey looked excellent, well done to him. I thought they’d got rid of that Cantwell fella, interesting to see him and Ramsey playing so well together.

Deano in helping wayward but talented player find his form shock.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on September 04, 2022, 08:46:40 PM
Looks like Ramsey Jnr is really finding his feet at Championship level, which is great news for us. Clearly he's got a bit about him for Dean to trust him through the middle like that, and better still, he's delivering.  Would love to see him and JJ play together in a successful first team.  Local brothers who came all the way through the youth system? Yes please!


We've got Cole Ramsey coming through the youth system too.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on September 05, 2022, 12:07:06 AM
They'll be the best trio di fratelli since Alvin, Simon and Theodore.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on September 05, 2022, 09:57:03 AM
Norwich played some lovely stuff in that clip and could have had 10. Ramsey looked excellent, well done to him. I thought they’d got rid of that Cantwell fella, interesting to see him and Ramsey playing so well together.

Deano in helping wayward but talented player find his form shock.


Shame he couldn't have down it for more than two games with Ross Barkley.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LeeB on September 05, 2022, 10:02:04 AM
Norwich played some lovely stuff in that clip and could have had 10. Ramsey looked excellent, well done to him. I thought they’d got rid of that Cantwell fella, interesting to see him and Ramsey playing so well together.

Deano in helping wayward but talented player find his form shock.


Shame he couldn't have down it for more than two games with Ross Barkley.

He's a manager not a magician
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on September 05, 2022, 10:05:50 AM
I'm more intrigued as to what make AJ Ramsey a 'wayward' player during his 2nd loan spell as a 19 year old with a very promising future.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: JD on September 05, 2022, 10:08:40 AM
I'm more intrigued as to what make AJ Ramsey a 'wayward' player during his 2nd loan spell as a 19 year old with a very promising future.

He's talking about Cantwell.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LeeB on September 05, 2022, 10:11:14 AM
I'm more intrigued as to what make AJ Ramsey a 'wayward' player during his 2nd loan spell as a 19 year old with a very promising future.

I was referencing Cantwell not Ramsey
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on September 05, 2022, 10:20:42 AM
I'm more intrigued as to what make AJ Ramsey a 'wayward' player during his 2nd loan spell as a 19 year old with a very promising future.

I was referencing Cantwell not Ramsey

Ah, sorry, that makes more sense.

That said I'm not sure Cantwell fits that bill either, he's another in a long list of players too good for the championship and not good enough for the premier league.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LeeB on September 05, 2022, 11:27:30 AM
I'm more intrigued as to what make AJ Ramsey a 'wayward' player during his 2nd loan spell as a 19 year old with a very promising future.

I was referencing Cantwell not Ramsey

Ah, sorry, that makes more sense.

That said I'm not sure Cantwell fits that bill either, he's another in a long list of players too good for the championship and not good enough for the premier league.

That may be true but the last couple of times I'd seen him play he'd looked way off where he was a couple of years back, just completely lost.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on September 05, 2022, 11:28:25 AM
He definitely had gone off the rails a bit, he didn't put any effort into training at all, apparently, for a long time.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on September 05, 2022, 11:33:15 AM
I'm more intrigued as to what make AJ Ramsey a 'wayward' player during his 2nd loan spell as a 19 year old with a very promising future.

I was referencing Cantwell not Ramsey

Ah, sorry, that makes more sense.

That said I'm not sure Cantwell fits that bill either, he's another in a long list of players too good for the championship and not good enough for the premier league.

If Mitrovic is anything to go by, he might just not have had a manager who played to his strengths.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on September 05, 2022, 11:38:47 AM
He definitely had gone off the rails a bit, he didn't put any effort into training at all, apparently, for a long time.

That wouldn't surprise me at all the guy is a twat. I just think he always looked a bit our of his depth in the premier league so going down and the extra time and space that gives him, makes a big difference to how he looks as a player.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Smithy on September 05, 2022, 11:41:08 AM
Cantwell is a strange one, clearly has a lot of natural talent, pretty good on the ball, all the technical attributes to play at the top level - but he's not very quick and seems to have that same lazy-looking style that Chuck Jnr had.  It always looks like he's not trying, even when perhaps he is.  Combine that with his alleged poor attitude in training and it's no surprise Noriwch loaned him out even when fighting to survive in the premier league.

He's in the last year of his contract, so I expect he'll move on next summer, but unless he seriously impresses in the Championship this season I suspect he'll be another of the "gifted but not quite good enough" players that forever plies their trade outside the top flight.

I do think it's telling that AJ appears to have already gone ahead of him in Deano's thinking of who should be the central creative fulcrum for the side, the one moving between the lines of midfield and the forwards.  Just need AJ to score a couple himself now and we'll be off to the races!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LeeB on September 05, 2022, 12:25:20 PM
Cantwell is a strange one, clearly has a lot of natural talent, pretty good on the ball, all the technical attributes to play at the top level - but he's not very quick and seems to have that same lazy-looking style that Chuck Jnr had.  It always looks like he's not trying, even when perhaps he is.  Combine that with his alleged poor attitude in training and it's no surprise Noriwch loaned him out even when fighting to survive in the premier league.

He's in the last year of his contract, so I expect he'll move on next summer, but unless he seriously impresses in the Championship this season I suspect he'll be another of the "gifted but not quite good enough" players that forever plies their trade outside the top flight.

I do think it's telling that AJ appears to have already gone ahead of him in Deano's thinking of who should be the central creative fulcrum for the side, the one moving between the lines of midfield and the forwards.  Just need AJ to score a couple himself now and we'll be off to the races!

Would be fantastic if he can get say 30 plus starts in a promotion winning team, that's the perfect scenario for a loan for a very talented young player.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on September 05, 2022, 02:21:10 PM
Tim got 20 minutes at the end of QPR's 1-0 defeat at Swansea on Saturday - Swansea had already taken the lead when he came on.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2022, 10:08:16 PM
Ramsey with another assist for Norwich.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on September 14, 2022, 10:51:39 PM
Yes, he started with Cantwell in an attacking formation. They were both withdrawn on the hour mark, Deano probably wanting to protect the lead.

Tim got 85 minutes for QPR in their win at Millwall tonight.

Last night Keinan came on for a crocked Sarr, played well by all accounts but Watford dropped points. No sign of Hause, must be still injured.

Philogene was an unused sub in Cardiff's win at Middlesboro.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 14, 2022, 11:11:24 PM
Viljami Sinisalo called up to the Finland squad for the first time. https://twitter.com/VSinisalo01/status/1569990462827597824
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on September 15, 2022, 07:59:42 AM
I wonder where HKK will fit in the 'uddersfield set-up when a new manager comes in. I hope the early departure of Schofield doesn't screw his loan experience.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 15, 2022, 10:06:51 AM
I wonder where HKK will fit in the 'uddersfield set-up when a new manager comes in.

Looks like you expect him to start on the other side now.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Drummond on September 17, 2022, 03:38:03 PM
Keinan scores!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 17, 2022, 04:16:07 PM
As does Brad Young.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 17, 2022, 04:24:42 PM
And Tyreik Wright!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: fredm on September 20, 2022, 05:11:16 PM
Wright played on left side of attack on starting for the first time, having been a sub before.  His ball control and vision was obvious from the outset and he went on to set up the second goal with a peach of a cross and then scored the third goal (albeit with a slight deflection) in the 3 - 0 win against the team who were second in the table.  He was also made man of the match.  This week he is with the Northern Ireland u-21 squad,
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: rougegorge on October 15, 2022, 06:21:47 PM
Sounds like Azaz was outstanding again for Plymouth with 2 goals at MK Dons today. They're having a great season and he must be doing a good job.

It's odd that I don't think he's ever played any games for us at any level, but he's worth watching.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 15, 2022, 07:22:46 PM
Azaz looks the real deal.

https://www.skysports.com/football/milton-keynes-dons-vs-plymouth-argyle/469094

Thanks, Baggies!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LukeJames on October 15, 2022, 07:35:51 PM
Assist for Louie Barry aswell, but he was badly dispossed for Plymouths 4th.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on October 15, 2022, 10:46:33 PM
Assist for Louie Barry aswell, but he was badly dispossed for Plymouths 4th.

Goalies fault, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on October 16, 2022, 03:17:56 AM
Defending is beneath Louie.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: rougegorge on October 22, 2022, 03:22:27 PM
Azaz yet again for Plymouth
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: robleflaneur on October 22, 2022, 03:49:03 PM
Iroegbunam (qpr),A.Ramsey (norwich) and Chrisene (kilmarnock) all playing and their teams are leading with QPR top and Norwich 3rd,game in hand,in the Championship.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on October 22, 2022, 04:07:16 PM
Azaz yet again for Plymouth

He could be lining up against us this time next year the way things are going.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on October 22, 2022, 04:35:40 PM
Can we recall Finn or sell him for miltimillions?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 22, 2022, 05:51:53 PM
Azaz yet again for Plymouth

Cracker

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1583869853928394752?s=46&t=dZPNJXLhfE66tuTWhDuN9A
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 22, 2022, 08:34:53 PM
Can we recall Finn or sell him for miltimillions?

I believe it's now mandatory to refer to him Finniesta. :)

Today's was a worldie but he also took his 2 goals against MK Dons last week very well (albeit they were gifted to him).
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LukeJames on October 23, 2022, 04:24:08 PM
What a goal from Keinan. Its given me cramp just watching him get his leg into that position.
Tbf that's probably why he went off injured later.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on October 23, 2022, 10:16:33 PM
What a goal from Keinan. Its given me cramp just watching him get his leg into that position.
Tbf that's probably why he went off injured later.
Injured, you say ...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Ger Regan on October 29, 2022, 04:10:19 PM
Ramsey scores for Norwich against stoke.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on October 29, 2022, 04:36:01 PM
Ramsey scores for Norwich against stoke.
Second one
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on October 29, 2022, 04:57:35 PM
Jaden Philogene-Bidace Scores the winner for Cardiff
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Villafirst on October 29, 2022, 06:19:54 PM
Ramsey scores for Norwich against stoke.
Second one


I'd rather some of these loan players were with Villa not bombed out on loan by Gerrard. Reckless decision and to get rid of the wingers.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on October 29, 2022, 06:42:46 PM
Ramsay’s second and Philogene’s were lovely goals.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on October 30, 2022, 02:04:55 AM
45 seconds in here...absolutely filthy finish from Jaden after making it all by himself -

Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on October 30, 2022, 05:45:36 PM
Anyone know if we can recall any of the loan players in January?

Traore and Bidace would be handy seeing as we have only one winger. Davis would be another option up front. Iroegbunam is better than Nakamba and possibly Dedonker.

If we got that lot back we could sell McGinn, Nakamba, Ings and not have to replace them all at once.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on October 30, 2022, 09:08:11 PM
We were able to recall players last season. Interesting to see if there are release clauses and whether Emery would want to bring them back (he might take the view that they're better where they are for their development).
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Smithy on October 31, 2022, 02:32:57 PM
I'd be very surprised if any of the ones doing well get recalled in January. We've only tended to recall players because they weren't getting game time (Barry last season) or because they were already demonstrably capable of playing at a higher level (KKH last season).

If Unai comes in and believes we have three or four gaps that need immediate filling, he's going to the owners and asking for their chequebook, he's not going to start asking "Have you got any 19/20 year old's doing okay in the lower leagues?".  He'll have a good look at them next summer I'd imagine.

I'm really enjoying seeing some of our young players thriving on loan, and I really hope it means some of them do enough to be part of the first-team squad next season.  They won't ALL be able to, obviously, and if some of them generate a bit of cash like Chuk did, then that's good too.

I'm pretty sure Davis' contract is up next summer, so his time with us is done, and he'll be off on a free next summer. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on October 31, 2022, 03:08:48 PM
Re Davis - I'm sure I read in The Athletic that we've pre-agreed a transfer deal with Watford at the end of the season, hence the loan this season - so he isn't out of contract.

Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on November 05, 2022, 06:15:13 PM
Don't think Aaron Ramsey has his own thread but he scored the winner for Norwich today, his third goal in consecutive games.

From The Athletic last week:

Quote

“Probably the thing missing from his game would be goals,” said Smith. “He’s an extremely talented player. He has great vision and balance. He knows what’s around him and has great tactical awareness. He’s very unselfish so it’s pleasing to see him get the tap in from Teemu’s good work, and then Teemu returning the favour.”


Ramsey spoke of the help and time he has already received from Pukki, including tips that worked for former Norwich and current Villa forward Emi Buendia, who brought out the best in Pukki.

“He’s so good,” said Ramsey of Pukki. “Before I got here, he was one of the ones I looked at and thought I’d love to play with him. Everyone knows what a top player and top person he is. I always knew I could link with him, and it’s worked. He knows what players want and he speaks to me about it a lot.”

Such conversations have been the focus for Ramsey rather than events at Villa Park, where Steven Gerrard was sacked as head coach and Unai Emery has since been appointed. “I’ve just looked at the scores…” said Ramsey. “I’m here and focused on here, and when I go back to Villa, I’ll go back.”

Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LukeJames on November 05, 2022, 07:53:35 PM
Aaron and Tim's loans seem like big successes. I was hoping for similar from KKH bit he's not getting much game time.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 12, 2022, 12:33:27 AM
Indiana Vassilev chosen as 2nd pick in the MLS draft. https://twitter.com/ManuelVeth/status/1591223980362715136
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on November 12, 2022, 12:57:33 AM
Is Indiana still going to be on our books in 2030?! He's the continuity punchline at the Villa, fair play to him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dogtanian on November 15, 2022, 10:12:01 PM
Gutted that Azaz is out for ten weeks, he’s been having a cracking season.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 16, 2022, 02:50:44 AM
What's his injury problem?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dogtanian on November 16, 2022, 06:37:27 AM
He’s got an ankle injury, ligament damage apparently.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Bad English on November 16, 2022, 12:23:37 PM
He'll get over it.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 10, 2022, 07:22:47 PM
Wesley subbed after 65 minutes in Levante's draw with Ponferradina.

Jaden Philogene missed Cardiff's draw with Stoke and is likely out for a few weeks yet.

Aaron Ramsey missed Norwich's win at Swansea.

Sinisalo didn't even make the bench for Burton, not sure if he's injured.

Kaine Kesler played 78 minutes of Huddersfield's defeat at Sheffield United.

Finn Azaz is out injured as mentioned above.

Louie Barry played 77 minutes of MK Dons' defeat by Fleetwood.

Caleb Chukwuemeka played 23 minutes of Crawley's defeat by Hartlepool.

Tyreik Wright played all of Bradford's defeat by Leyton Orient.

So... not a lot to write home about today. QPR and Watford in action tomorrow.

Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on December 12, 2022, 12:22:30 AM
Cheers Chief. Footy used to be good at these updates, the helpful little tyke.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 12, 2022, 12:54:11 AM
Keinan Davis played all of Watford's draw with Hull. Hause is injured.

Tim Iroegbunam played all of QPR's 3-0 defeat to Burnley.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Richard on December 12, 2022, 05:01:45 AM
Cheers Chief. Footy used to be good at these updates, the helpful little tyke.

As only an irregular contributor to this fine forum are Footy and Ads for that matter no longer on here or just having a break!?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Drummond on December 12, 2022, 07:41:09 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dave on December 12, 2022, 08:03:51 AM
Cheers Chief. Footy used to be good at these updates, the helpful little tyke.

As only an irregular contributor to this fine forum are Footy and Ads for that matter no longer on here or just having a break!?

Both are free to post anytime they like as far as I know.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on December 12, 2022, 02:03:54 PM
Ads hasn't even logged on in the two months since he said he couldn't see the point in posting on here any more. I assume Footy is just taking one of his many breaks where he doesn't post anything for a few weeks, before coming back and erm, catching up a bit.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 12, 2022, 02:10:46 PM
Flin5tone is also missing in action... since we won. I'm sure he will be back after the next defeat.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Drummond on December 12, 2022, 04:01:44 PM
Ads hasn't even logged on in the two months since he said he couldn't see the point in posting on here any more. I assume Footy is just taking one of his many breaks where he doesn't post anything for a few weeks, before coming back and erm, catching up a bit.

Cold Turkey is often the best way. At least that's what I learned watching Trainspotting.

Footie will be back on Thursday 22nd.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on December 12, 2022, 04:14:45 PM
Did Ads throw a strop? I tend to avoid the politics thread so didn't see what shit went down.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LeeB on December 12, 2022, 04:16:03 PM
Ads hasn't even logged on in the two months since he said he couldn't see the point in posting on here any more. I assume Footy is just taking one of his many breaks where he doesn't post anything for a few weeks, before coming back and erm, catching up a bit.

Cold Turkey is often the best way. At least that's what I learned watching Trainspotting.

Footie will be back on Thursday 22nd.

I've now got a mental image of Ads going cold turkey off whey protein in a spatan bedroom with Underworld soundtracking his misery.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Drummond on December 12, 2022, 04:24:40 PM
It's what he would have wanted.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: DB on December 18, 2022, 10:45:28 PM
Spoke to a QPR fan last week ,they love Tim Iroegbunam.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dcdavecollett on December 19, 2022, 12:55:31 AM
Had a good game at Preston, including smashing a 20-yarder against the post.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 24, 2022, 01:02:59 PM
Spoke to a QPR fan last week ,they love Tim Iroegbunam.
And like clockwork, his excellent form & the education that others outside of Villa get about the players potential, coincides with media rumblings that other clubs are getting interested in him. One of those blog type websites apparently has him as a future replacement for Fabinho at Liverpool. It’s no wonder there is never any change in football. As soon as a club finds a decent player, everything is done in the media to convince the player that they NEED a change of clubs & one of the media favourites stockpiles the players, loans them out to a club that can’t compete with them & the cycle of boredom continues. I despise football. If it weren’t for Villa, I would have walked away years ago…
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 24, 2022, 01:06:20 PM
[ If it weren’t for Villa, I would have walked away years ago]

Spot on
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dcdavecollett on December 27, 2022, 02:33:46 AM
Great to see Kaine Kessler Hayden off the mark at last.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: jwarry on December 27, 2022, 08:06:31 AM
Spoke to a QPR fan last week ,they love Tim Iroegbunam.
And like clockwork, his excellent form & the education that others outside of Villa get about the players potential, coincides with media rumblings that other clubs are getting interested in him. One of those blog type websites apparently has him as a future replacement for Fabinho at Liverpool. It’s no wonder there is never any change in football. As soon as a club finds a decent player, everything is done in the media to convince the player that they NEED a change of clubs & one of the media favourites stockpiles the players, loans them out to a club that can’t compete with them & the cycle of boredom continues. I despise football. If it weren’t for Villa, I would have walked away years ago…

You mean a bit like how we poached him from West Brom?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 27, 2022, 01:39:27 PM
Spoke to a QPR fan last week ,they love Tim Iroegbunam.
And like clockwork, his excellent form & the education that others outside of Villa get about the players potential, coincides with media rumblings that other clubs are getting interested in him. One of those blog type websites apparently has him as a future replacement for Fabinho at Liverpool. It’s no wonder there is never any change in football. As soon as a club finds a decent player, everything is done in the media to convince the player that they NEED a change of clubs & one of the media favourites stockpiles the players, loans them out to a club that can’t compete with them & the cycle of boredom continues. I despise football. If it weren’t for Villa, I would have walked away years ago…

You mean a bit like how we poached him from West Brom?

Not really. I don’t recall media noise about us being interested in him. Or that he needed to move to a “bigger” club to further his career. I do remember us signing the player. But purely signing a player isn’t what I had the issue with. Which is why I have written the specific words I have written…
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 01, 2023, 01:34:21 PM
I wonder if we are going to be recalling the likes of Philogene-Bidace due to his loan now being pointless? Granted, he hasn’t covered himself in glory with his form, but the manager there is a bit clueless & Cardiff are terrible. Yet still, Philogene-Bidace is third choice winger behind the likes of Ojo & Harris. The loan is now utterly pointless, so best to recall & send out to another club. Preferably one that isn’t shit…
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on January 01, 2023, 01:47:05 PM
With us not having many wide players, JPB could be involved for us.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 01, 2023, 01:54:36 PM
Not sure he is ready for Prem football tbh. His blistering speed & trickery on the ball count for nothing if he can’t find a consistent end product. He is a coin flip as to whether he makes it for me.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LeeB on January 01, 2023, 03:03:44 PM
Not sure he is ready for Prem football tbh. His blistering speed & trickery on the ball count for nothing if he can’t find a consistent end product. He is a coin flip as to whether he makes it for me.

True, but could be one of those that just seizes the chance, and given we're lacking options it's worth looking at
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on January 01, 2023, 03:25:25 PM
Needs another loan to a Ch'ship team perhaps.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Matt C on January 01, 2023, 09:07:11 PM
Sinisalo being recalled from loan at Burton.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 02, 2023, 06:32:08 PM
Davis played like an absolute monster against Norwich but had to go off injured. Hamstring I think. He really was the best player on the pitch by a country mile. He was frustrated at times by the lack of quality & intelligence of his team-mates.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on January 02, 2023, 08:25:57 PM
He's still made of glass and still doesn't score enough. Not sure if Watford have to take-up the option to buy him in June.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 02, 2023, 10:08:54 PM
Iroegbunam played well for QPR against Sheff Utd. Passed the ball well, drove forward with the ball at times, mopped things up & closed down the opposition with pace & purpose. I have said it before, I rate the kid highly. The more I see of him, the more I like. Him, Kamara & Ramsey in our midfield could be dynamic, pacy, energetic, quality, etc, for years to come with their respective ages.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Drummond on January 03, 2023, 12:35:52 PM
Aaron Ramsey recalled from Norwich so that he can do his rehab from the injury and operation he had in December,
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 03, 2023, 12:51:41 PM
Aaron Ramsey recalled from Norwich so that he can do his rehab from the injury and operation he had in December,


Did they say how long he will be out ?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on January 03, 2023, 12:52:01 PM
I guess they won't want to keep paying a % of his wages while he's crocked. Hopefully he'll get another good club once he's recovered as he has been proving himself at that level.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 03, 2023, 10:32:45 PM
https://twitter.com/total_villa/status/1610403830323347458?s=46&t=VWVOkTnAugTeqOf_8JdhxQ

Our boy Wes just got a 90th minute winner for Levante against Getafe
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: stevo_st on January 03, 2023, 10:43:34 PM
Excellent, good to see him celebrating
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on January 03, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Wasn't someone on here saying he couldn't head the ball when he came up in discussion earlier today?!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 03, 2023, 11:43:20 PM
Brilliant. So chuffed for him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mellin on January 03, 2023, 11:44:51 PM
Well in Wes.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Hillbilly on January 04, 2023, 10:54:49 PM
I'd love to see him come back and rip thing up like prime Benteke. But sadly that kind of redemption story arc is a movie myth.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dcdavecollett on January 05, 2023, 02:36:12 AM
Does anyone know exactly what Aaron's injury is?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 05, 2023, 11:26:51 AM
Does anyone know exactly what Aaron's injury is?
I read somewhere it was surgery on a knee issue.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: chrisw1 on January 05, 2023, 11:38:00 AM
Wasn't someone on here saying he couldn't head the ball when he came up in discussion earlier today?!
Probably as he is mostly very shit in the air.  Even a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while.

He hasn't scored in 17 league games (9 starts) this season, so lets not get carried away.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on January 05, 2023, 11:58:40 AM
Was just teasing Chris, it's ok to be occasionally wrong  ;)
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: chrisw1 on January 05, 2023, 12:02:11 PM
Was just teasing Chris, it's ok to be occasionally wrong  ;)
TBF I don't think it was me who said he was shit in the air the other day.  But I probably should have.  He is.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on January 05, 2023, 12:35:19 PM
Ok.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: SaddVillan on January 05, 2023, 02:32:38 PM
Matthew Lowton has signed for Huddersfield. Wonder how that might affect opportunities for KKH?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on January 05, 2023, 11:50:58 PM
Matthew Lowton has signed for Huddersfield. Wonder how that might affect opportunities for KKH?

I read a report indicating that he’d struggle for game time given it’s another right back but when I’ve looked at the Huddersfield team on LiveScore it’s had KKH as playing in midfield, on occasions, but not sure how accurate that is.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on January 06, 2023, 12:08:57 PM
KKH named in Championship team of the month for December.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 09, 2023, 06:17:25 PM
Tyreik Wright recalled from Bradford. https://www.bradfordcityafc.com/news/2023/january/wright-returns-to-villa/
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 09, 2023, 07:55:30 PM
Tyreik Wright recalled from Bradford. https://www.bradfordcityafc.com/news/2023/january/wright-returns-to-villa/
Moving to Plymouth Argyle apparently. After Azaz, they are quite happy about it. I haven't the heart to tell them that he is a pace merchant with little end product...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: astonvilla82 on January 14, 2023, 07:11:00 PM
Young lad Chrisene playing semi final for Kilmarnock against Celtic
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Eckybloke on January 15, 2023, 04:42:41 PM
Matthew Lowton has signed for Huddersfield. Wonder how that might affect opportunities for KKH?

KKH is back with us according to my algorithm news.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 15, 2023, 07:22:09 PM
Matthew Lowton has signed for Huddersfield. Wonder how that might affect opportunities for KKH?

KKH is back with us according to my algorithm news.
Good. Huddersfield are a mess.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: exigo on January 15, 2023, 07:50:03 PM
KKH looked lost on the Huddersfield left last week at Preston. They started him on the left of a front three, then dragged him back to left wing back.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AV82EC on January 15, 2023, 07:51:38 PM
KKH looked lost on the Huddersfield left last week at Preston. They started him on the left of a front three, then dragged him back to left wing back.

He’s a right back?!! Which clown is in charge at the moment?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Steve67 on January 15, 2023, 08:04:13 PM
I wonder if KKH is back so Ashley Young can cover left back now Digne is injured, Ludwig is going back to his parent club?  Cash and KKH for the right back position.  Unless Cash is off to Chelsea for £100m.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on January 15, 2023, 08:07:34 PM
It was Huddersfield who exercised their right to cut short his loan apparently.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Steve67 on January 15, 2023, 08:09:08 PM
It was Huddersfield who exercised their right to cut short his loan apparently.

Weird.  Named in the Championship team of the month recently I understand.  Not a bad feat given how crap Huddersfield are.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Olof's Beard on January 15, 2023, 08:40:46 PM
It was Huddersfield who exercised their right to cut short his loan apparently.

Weird.  Named in the Championship team of the month recently I understand.  Not a bad feat given how crap Huddersfield are.

Had a quick scan through a few forum posts and the Huddersfield fans don't seem to think he's been very good.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on January 15, 2023, 08:49:11 PM
It was Huddersfield who exercised their right to cut short his loan apparently.

Weird.  Named in the Championship team of the month recently I understand.  Not a bad feat given how crap Huddersfield are.

Had a quick scan through a few forum posts and the Huddersfield fans don't seem to think he's been very good.
well, they have been a shambles as a team so they might well say that about most of their players.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: john2710 on January 15, 2023, 08:52:42 PM
I think it's more a case of them being in a relegation fight & they need experience rather than a young player learning his trade. If he's not going to get game time, he's better off elsewhere. Also let's Emery cast his eyes on him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 15, 2023, 09:03:43 PM
Hope Huddersfield still pick up a bit now anyway.

Nothing to do with wanting Blues to be relegated....
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on January 15, 2023, 09:43:58 PM
It was Huddersfield who exercised their right to cut short his loan apparently.

Weird.  Named in the Championship team of the month recently I understand.  Not a bad feat given how crap Huddersfield are.

Had a quick scan through a few forum posts and the Huddersfield fans don't seem to think he's been very good.

Given how he's been used by them I can't say I'm surprised, it's just been a bad loan and it's good all round that he's back with us, either to find a move that's a better fit or to give Emery a chance to look at him in training. His pace gives him a big advantage which makes it worth us not worrying over one bad spell at a club that are a mess.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 22, 2023, 03:39:16 PM
Azaz back in Plymouth team after a long lay-off. Came on as late substitute against Bolton, provided assist for injury time equaliser. Started against  Cheltenham, and provided 2 assists in a 4 - 2 win.

PS Tyreik Wright scored.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 22, 2023, 03:52:26 PM
Azaz back in Plymouth team after a long lay-off. Came on as late substitute against Bolton, provided assist for injury time equaliser. Started against  Cheltenham, and provided 2 assists in a 4 - 2 win.

PS Tyreik Wright scored.
PPS. No he didn't. It was another Wright.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: coreyfeldman on January 22, 2023, 03:54:39 PM
Some player Azaz by the sounds of it. Anyone know what the plans for him are?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AV82EC on January 22, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
Some player Azaz by the sounds of it. Anyone know what the plans for him are?

Whole season at Plymouth (League 1?) I think then reassess in the summer, maybe up to the Championship?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Vegas on January 22, 2023, 03:58:35 PM
Some player Azaz by the sounds of it. Anyone know what the plans for him are?

Seems to be doing well, but he’s 22, not 18.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: algy on January 22, 2023, 04:06:06 PM
Some player Azaz by the sounds of it. Anyone know what the plans for him are?

Seems to be doing well, but he’s 22, not 18.
Yeah, but also it's not like he's come through the academy exactly - joined the club in 2021 from Albion having not played for them, so presumably we weren't expecting him to make the step up to the first team straight away. And he signed a contract extension this summer, so again suggests that we see something in him.

I'd be inclined to get him on loan on the Championship next season and see where he is then.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on January 22, 2023, 04:09:18 PM
Some player Azaz by the sounds of it. Anyone know what the plans for him are?

Seems to be doing well, but he’s 22, not 18.
Yeah, but also it's not like he's come through the academy exactly - joined the club in 2021 from Albion having not played for them, so presumably we weren't expecting him to make the step up to the first team straight away. And he signed a contract extension this summer, so again suggests that we see something in him.

I'd be inclined to get him on loan on the Championship next season and see where he is then.

It's tough but I reckon he's one that we saw as a 50/50 who'd either improve quickly and be a decent option of squad cover or who'd do enough for us to turn a profit after a couple of seasons.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: algy on January 22, 2023, 04:15:25 PM
Some player Azaz by the sounds of it. Anyone know what the plans for him are?

Seems to be doing well, but he’s 22, not 18.
Yeah, but also it's not like he's come through the academy exactly - joined the club in 2021 from Albion having not played for them, so presumably we weren't expecting him to make the step up to the first team straight away. And he signed a contract extension this summer, so again suggests that we see something in him.

I'd be inclined to get him on loan on the Championship next season and see where he is then.

It's tough but I reckon he's one that we saw as a 50/50 who'd either improve quickly and be a decent option of squad cover or who'd do enough for us to turn a profit after a couple of seasons.
But last summer we extended his contract presumably knowing that he was likely to spend the season in League One. Maybe we're fattening him up for market, but he does seem to be improving quickly to be (we bought a player who was League 2 standard, and within 18 months he looks too good for League 1).

I'd really just see how he gets on in the Championship next season. But he is at a stage where if he's not looking like a Premier League player at that point then it'd be time to sell up.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 22, 2023, 04:19:41 PM
Some player Azaz by the sounds of it. Anyone know what the plans for him are?


Seems to be doing well, but he’s 22, not 18.
Yeah, but also it's not like he's come through the academy exactly - joined the club in 2021 from Albion having not played for them, so presumably we weren't expecting him to make the step up to the first team straight away. And he signed a contract extension this summer, so again suggests that we see something in him.

I'd be inclined to get him on loan on the Championship next season and see where he is then.

Very good chance Plymouth will be in Championship next season. If so, I anticipate they will do everything they can to keep him, whether loan or buy. Considering his age, he could have some difficult decisions to make.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 22, 2023, 04:43:48 PM
They absolutely love him down in Devon. My mate was at the game yesterday & picked him out for praise. I always saw him as a revenue gaining player. We develop him for a bit & then sold him to make a bit of profit for that drawbridge raising FFP farce, but last year he was immense for Newport & then again this year for Plymouth, despite going up a league level & being injured for a period. I would look at him next year for Plymouth in the Championship & go from there. But he does looks very useful.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: kipeye on January 22, 2023, 04:48:42 PM
Azaz back in Plymouth team after a long lay-off. Came on as late substitute against Bolton, provided assist for injury time equaliser. Started against  Cheltenham, and provided 2 assists in a 4 - 2 win.

PS Tyreik Wright scored.
PPS. No he didn't. It was another Wright.
Two Wrights don't make a wrong.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dcdavecollett on January 23, 2023, 01:44:37 AM
Finn looks a useful player but the amount of space he had to deliver the ball for one of his assists was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on January 23, 2023, 03:21:36 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/january/23/loan-round-up--iroegbunam-in-action-for-qpr/
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: UK Redsox on January 31, 2023, 11:32:40 PM
Bogarde to the Gas

https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2023/january/lamare-bogarde-signs-for-rovers-on-loan/?fbclid=IwAR20TOwXUi5zcgCbYwxLonFbIgbXNjkZFcos1rT1imzasW9iDDHYXNjv2mA
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on February 11, 2023, 04:49:51 PM
Plymouth lead 2-1. Azaz second goal.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 11, 2023, 05:02:17 PM
Louie Barry subbed off on 58 mins in a 1-0 loss away to Tranmere
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on February 11, 2023, 06:40:05 PM
Did Aaron R get any gametime for VillaBoro?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: garyellis on February 11, 2023, 06:42:40 PM
Did Aaron R get any gametime for VillaBoro?
No not in the match day squad, assume he needs to get his fitness levels back after his injury
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 11, 2023, 06:49:04 PM
Did Aaron R get any gametime for VillaBoro?
No not in the match day squad, assume he needs to get his fitness levels back after his injury

Still injured apparently.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 14, 2023, 09:52:47 PM
Barry unused sub for Salford.
Tim subbed off for QPR on 76mins when 1-0 down- they went on to lose 3-0
Azaz subbed off on 66mins when 2-1 up.Argyle went on to win 3-1
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dorsetvillian on February 14, 2023, 10:03:16 PM
Bogarde played for Bristol Rovers. Very good comments from Rovers fans.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on February 15, 2023, 01:28:56 AM
What the fuq is happening at Loftus Road? From top to near the bottom over the winter, Ian Beale has behaved more like Dirty Den.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: boozey182 on February 15, 2023, 09:45:52 AM
Bogarde played for Bristol Rovers. Very good comments from Rovers fans.

Interesting to see that Bogarde played in midfield for them. He came through as a centre back, but seems to have been moved forward. He was one of the players I was most excited about a couple of years ago, but he's had a fair few injuries since then. It would be great to see him get plenty of minutes to really kick on. I wonder if he fancies a year in Portugal soon...?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on February 15, 2023, 03:57:52 PM
Bogarde played for Bristol Rovers. Very good comments from Rovers fans.

Interesting to see that Bogarde played in midfield for them. He came through as a centre back, but seems to have been moved forward. He was one of the players I was most excited about a couple of years ago, but he's had a fair few injuries since then. It would be great to see him get plenty of minutes to really kick on. I wonder if he fancies a year in Portugal soon...?

He has played CDM for us too. Personally, I see his future there as opposed to CB...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 16, 2023, 02:21:38 AM
He looks very good at CDM. He's quite quick, too.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 16, 2023, 04:20:39 PM
Did Aaron R get any gametime for VillaBoro?
No not in the match day squad, assume he needs to get his fitness levels back after his injury

Still injured apparently.

Came off the bench against Sheff Utd and looked good. Boro fans can't believe their luck with the squad Carrick has put together. It's going to be tough for AJ to get minutes but Carrick does use his bench well and if AJ continues to impress he'll be difficult to ignore.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on February 16, 2023, 04:22:18 PM
Sheffield United fans sounded worried last night.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Drummond on February 17, 2023, 03:35:44 PM
Sheffield United fans sounded worried last night.

They are always worried.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dorsetvillian on February 17, 2023, 09:51:53 PM
I'm going to see FGR v Bristol Rovers in March. Hopefully Bogarde will be playing. Looking forward to seeing him in midfield.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on February 18, 2023, 08:17:00 AM
Watched Philogene-Bidace last night for Cardiff. He was one of their better players in a 1-0 win, but the more I watch him, the more convinced that he wont make it at Villa.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 18, 2023, 09:35:47 AM
Proper loan watch today with Archer and Aaron Ramsey vs Iroegbunam in Middlesbrough v QPR
 

Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 04, 2023, 03:59:35 PM
Goal from Ramsey Jr for Boro today
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 04, 2023, 04:03:16 PM
Goal from Ramsey Jr for Boro today

Think he won the pen for their first too.

JPB scored for Cardiff against Brizzle City.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on March 04, 2023, 04:59:35 PM
2 for our Aaron today.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on March 04, 2023, 05:00:41 PM
QPR lost again - Tim not having a great time. Let's hope he's learning stuff.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on March 04, 2023, 05:30:04 PM
Unless he's injured, I'm surprised we're not putting KKH on the bench. I think KKH, Ramsey Junior, Iroegbunam and Archer will be part of the first team squad next season which might mean that we're not bringing in as many players in the summer as people might be expecting. 
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 04, 2023, 05:39:35 PM
Goal from Ramsey Jr for Boro today

Think he won the pen for their first too.

JPB scored for Cardiff against Brizzle City.

Can see the goals here:

https://www.skysports.com/football/middlesbrough-vs-reading/report/468238

https://www.skysports.com/football/cardiff-city-vs-bristol-city/report/468234
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on March 04, 2023, 05:47:01 PM
AJ looks like he bossed that game. If he maintains that consistently he'll soon be ready to step up to the Premier League.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on March 04, 2023, 07:35:48 PM
AJ looks like he bossed that game. If he maintains that consistently he'll soon be ready to step up to the Premier League.

Surprised he didn’t take the penalty for their 5th and his hat-trick.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on March 04, 2023, 07:42:30 PM
I think the player that won the penalty is their designated taker. Akpom was also on two as well.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 04, 2023, 09:00:20 PM
How did Cam do ?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on March 04, 2023, 09:02:44 PM
Goal disallowed for a marginal offside. Played well.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 04, 2023, 09:08:58 PM
Ramsey is almost as ruthless in front of goal as Archer. That first one took some amount of confidence, he could have easily ballsed it up and he had options to his right.

Not lacking any confidence, he knew he could bury it in the bottom corner and he did. I hope these two lads get a run in our first team next season. If Boro come up, I guess they'll be in for them on permanent deals.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on March 06, 2023, 11:10:20 AM
Goal disallowed for a marginal offside. Played well.

I think AJ played him in for that too.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 06, 2023, 03:22:23 PM
Is anyone watching our other loanees? C'mon, I know the Jedinator actually gets paid for it but some H&Vers cut their teeth watching Eurogoals on Eurosport. Sanson, Wesley and whoever else - how they doin'?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on March 06, 2023, 03:54:38 PM
Bogarde doing well apparently - https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joey-barton-raves-liverpool-aston-8218747.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 06, 2023, 04:15:19 PM
Is anyone watching our other loanees? C'mon, I know the Jedinator actually gets paid for it but some H&Vers cut their teeth watching Eurogoals on Eurosport. Sanson, Wesley and whoever else - how they doin'?

The latter two are not loaners in the same sense (ie, they're "just go away somewhere else until your contract ends" types, so who cares, not "you could be the future, go forth to the lower leagues and be awesome" loans)
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: algy on March 06, 2023, 05:44:17 PM
Really quite excited by the prospect of the two Ramseys and Archer being in and around the first team squad next season.  There's nothing quite as magical as a home-grown, Villa-supporting player.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: rougegorge on March 07, 2023, 10:10:15 PM
Another very good performance by Azaz for Plymouth tonight, although the penalty he won was minimal contact.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 07, 2023, 10:16:36 PM
Another very good performance by Azaz for Plymouth tonight, although the penalty he won was minimal contact.

A few former Villans for Derby too. Hot Lips and the younger James Collins.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 07, 2023, 10:20:17 PM
How old's the 'younger' James Collins now?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 07, 2023, 10:28:50 PM
Really quite excited by the prospect of the two Ramseys and Archer being in and around the first team squad next season.  There's nothing quite as magical as a home-grown, Villa-supporting player.

I was amazed at the technical level of Aaron Ramsey at the weekend. Considering it was his first start for Boro (missed his Norwich games), he's certainly given Carrick plenty to think about and I'm not even mentioning the goals. Lovely footballer on so many levels.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 07, 2023, 11:23:57 PM
Oh yeah, his control and technical quality stood out in the FA Touth Cup winning team. Now that's he's filling out physically, the guy is gonna be even more of a baller than his big brother. And Cole Ramsey will hopefully usurp the two of them.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on March 07, 2023, 11:26:41 PM
Filling out in the Touth Cup?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 07, 2023, 11:33:29 PM
I hope he has the confidence to shout on sight.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: brontebilly on March 08, 2023, 12:44:25 AM
Oh yeah, his control and technical quality stood out in the FA Touth Cup winning team. Now that's he's filling out physically, the guy is gonna be even more of a baller than his big brother. And Cole Ramsey will hopefully usurp the two of them.

Is Aaron the most talented of all our recent academy graduates? Even on the highlights he has a first touch on him that Jacob can only dream of.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 08, 2023, 08:50:38 AM
I think he went under the radar a little with so much talk about Chukwuemeka.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dave shelley on March 08, 2023, 09:20:47 AM
I don't think he's kicked a ball in competition for us has he?  I've been following his loan spells and he seems to have been good wherever he's been.  I think the lad deserves a chance next season and I'm sure the staff are monitoring him, at least I hope so.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Ger Regan on March 08, 2023, 10:45:35 AM
I don't think he's kicked a ball in competition for us has he?  I've been following his loan spells and he seems to have been good wherever he's been.  I think the lad deserves a chance next season and I'm sure the staff are monitoring him, at least I hope so.
He played against barrow in the league cup i believe.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on March 08, 2023, 11:16:14 AM
I think he went under the radar a little with so much talk about Chukwuemeka.

Both Aaron and Chukwuemeka destroyed teams in that Youth Cup run. They're probably on a similar level to eachother but there was a lot of talk about the latter. Although people have been saying that Aaron is better than Jacob for as long as they've both been on the scene.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: boozey182 on March 08, 2023, 11:35:53 AM
It's great to see Aaron getting plenty of game time as I always felt he was one of those unlucky players that just missed out on various opportunities. He didn't get to play against Liverpool in the FA Cup because I think he was still living with Jacob so had to isolate with him. Then he missed a couple of important games in the Youth Cup run, I think coming on as sub in the final because he wasn't fully fit. Up until his injury, I agree with OCD - he'd been as impressive as Chukwuemeka in that run.

Sometimes little setbacks like that can have a huge impact on a young player, but he seems to have ploughed on regardless. He has always been a very neat and tidy player, really good at give and go's around the box. But he seems to be adding a bit more physicality to his game now as well. I hope he keeps pushing on for the rest of the season so we can have a look at him over the summer.

On a wider point - how nice is it to have players on loan at a level that, not very long ago, our first team was struggling to play at? I want us to progress quicker, obviously, but we have come a long way in the last 4 years or so.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 08, 2023, 12:27:42 PM
Quote
Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 08, 2023, 12:39:52 PM
How old's the 'younger' James Collins now?

32  :-[
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dave shelley on March 08, 2023, 12:56:46 PM
I don't think he's kicked a ball in competition for us has he?  I've been following his loan spells and he seems to have been good wherever he's been.  I think the lad deserves a chance next season and I'm sure the staff are monitoring him, at least I hope so.
He played against barrow in the league cup i believe.

Typical.  I watched that Barrow game and can't remember him in it at all.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on March 08, 2023, 01:06:33 PM
On a wider point - how nice is it to have players on loan at a level that, not very long ago, our first team was struggling to play at? I want us to progress quicker, obviously, but we have come a long way in the last 4 years or so.

A really good point. It feels like the foundations, or roots, of the club are as healthy as they’ve been in a long time.

Some luck and continuity with the management and you’d hope that the first team will start feeling the benefit soon.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on March 08, 2023, 01:42:01 PM
Quote
Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

I'm glad he's doing well, I think he could become a very good player but he seemed to stand still for a while, probably because he really needed senior football. With him, Feeney and Smith I hope we'll have 1-2 come through to fill the 4th/5th CB role.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: coreyfeldman on March 08, 2023, 01:42:42 PM
Fin Azaz got another assist and MOTM last night. 7 goals 7 assists for the season, he looks a player
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 08, 2023, 02:06:16 PM
He does, he'd be a late breakthrough at a high level given his age.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: brontebilly on March 08, 2023, 02:44:43 PM
Quote
Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

I guess it's good news but I'd really have to question the wisdom of letting any of our young players benefit from Joey Barton's man management.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on March 08, 2023, 03:06:33 PM
Quote
Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

I'm glad he's doing well, I think he could become a very good player but he seemed to stand still for a while, probably because he really needed senior football. With him, Feeney and Smith I hope we'll have 1-2 come through to fill the 4th/5th CB role.

Bogarde's being used as a midfielder so he might become an understudy for Kamara.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on March 08, 2023, 03:20:28 PM

Bogarde's being used as a midfielder so he might become an understudy for Kamara.
Along with Tim, I'd hope.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on March 08, 2023, 03:22:45 PM
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Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

I'm glad he's doing well, I think he could become a very good player but he seemed to stand still for a while, probably because he really needed senior football. With him, Feeney and Smith I hope we'll have 1-2 come through to fill the 4th/5th CB role.

Bogarde's being used as a midfielder so he might become an understudy for Kamara.

Honestly I'd like him to be comfortable as both. Players who can cover 2-3 positions and do different jobs game-to-game are really useful to have around and are generally technically sound, which helps for the type of build-up Emery is going for.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: algy on March 08, 2023, 03:38:19 PM
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Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

I'm glad he's doing well, I think he could become a very good player but he seemed to stand still for a while, probably because he really needed senior football. With him, Feeney and Smith I hope we'll have 1-2 come through to fill the 4th/5th CB role.

Bogarde's being used as a midfielder so he might become an understudy for Kamara.

Honestly I'd like him to be comfortable as both. Players who can cover 2-3 positions and do different jobs game-to-game are really useful to have around and are generally technically sound, which helps for the type of build-up Emery is going for.
Chambers, who isn't that great, seems to have found a bit of a niche with us in terms of him providing backups as 4th choice defender and 4th choice DM.  For Bogarde, I'd really be targeting Chambers' role in the side, because he could pretty much drop in as a replacement for him, and end up playing a decent number of games purely because he's good enough in a couple of positions.  But he's much younger than Chambers, so could potentially use those appearances to make a claim for a more senior place in the squad.

It's something that will be harder for Archer, Ramsey, and Iroegbunam purely because they're competing against more senior players - Emery's not going to have a player in the squad purely on the basis that they might get on the bench if another player's injured, which currently would be the situation for Tim Iroegbunam (since you'd definitely play Dougie, Kamara, and Dendonker ahead of him)
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: coreyfeldman on March 08, 2023, 03:43:02 PM
He does, he'd be a late breakthrough at a high level given his age.

He's only 22 and climbing the leagues very impressively. He's also very physical, I could absolutely see him in the prem
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: algy on March 08, 2023, 04:44:14 PM
He does, he'd be a late breakthrough at a high level given his age.

He's only 22 and climbing the leagues very impressively. He's also very physical, I could absolutely see him in the prem
The thing that strikes me with Azaz is that we only bought him 18 months ago, and before that he'd only really featured in Albion's thinking for 12 months (when they sent him out on loan).  He's done well on every loan he's been on from what I can tell.  I think he's a player that it might be worth deviating from the if-they're-not-in-the-first-team-at-20-then-they-must-be-shit approach, he's perhaps a bit of a late bloomer.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on March 08, 2023, 05:16:13 PM
Dewsbury-Hall at Leicester is 24 now but only playing his second season of Premier League football, having had a couple of loans. Not all players take the same route.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LeeB on March 08, 2023, 05:28:07 PM
Dewsbury-Hall at Leicester is 24 now but only playing his second season of Premier League football, having had a couple of loans. Not all players take the same route.

He had to spend a few years accomodating secondary school geography field trips.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 08, 2023, 05:34:24 PM
Dewsbury-Hall at Leicester is 24 now but only playing his second season of Premier League football, having had a couple of loans. Not all players take the same route.

He had to spend a few years accomodating secondary school geography field trips.

His career is progressing at a stately pace.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Scratchins on March 08, 2023, 05:47:57 PM
If transferred he would fetch a princely sum
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 08, 2023, 07:04:11 PM
He does, he'd be a late breakthrough at a high level given his age.

He's only 22 and climbing the leagues very impressively. He's also very physical, I could absolutely see him in the prem

For some reason I thought I read that he was 24. Ok, that's interesting. And agree with you/Algy.

From what I've seen and read he seems to have "nous" for want of a better word, that is rare in young players. Unphased, picking-up experience very quickly and impacting games consistently.

I can't see us giving more than two or three youngsters their head each season, he might be one that'll just miss out at the Villa but he should at least be playing Ch'ship football next season.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dr.chekov on March 10, 2023, 08:16:28 PM
Louie Barry just scored for Salford.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 11, 2023, 02:18:37 PM
AJ and Archer both start today for Boro away at Swansea.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 11, 2023, 03:23:46 PM
Tim scores for QPR.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 11, 2023, 04:14:45 PM
And Ramsey scores for 'boro
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: TelfordVilla on March 11, 2023, 04:17:35 PM
And archer scores the 2nd
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: johnc on March 11, 2023, 04:17:50 PM
Amd Cam for Boro
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 11, 2023, 04:21:54 PM
Great day for the Villa kids. I realize we were all a bit upset we didn’t add a bit more in January but when you consider the kids we have our on loan we need to give them a chance too. All of them; Finn, Cam, AJ, JPB, Tim, even Louie Barry got a goal last night I believe. Let’s take a good look at all of them
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on March 11, 2023, 04:40:09 PM
Nakamba in Luton team winning at Sheffield United.

Archer, Ramsey and Nakamba could all get promoted to the premiership this season. Could help fees if they are sold.

Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 11, 2023, 05:04:02 PM
Nearing time for an Aaron Ramsey thread of his own, isn't it?
Wonderful player.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on March 11, 2023, 05:10:02 PM
AJ constantly looked a threat in the 20 minutes I watched.

Good to see several Villa players scoring even though we weren't playing.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Ian. on March 11, 2023, 05:11:08 PM
What a good day for the Villa youngsters. This is fantastic experience for them and I hope they can be of use to our first team soon.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 11, 2023, 05:35:34 PM
Man, look at the way A Ramz takes his goals - he is next level stuff.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 11, 2023, 06:33:17 PM
Man, look at the way A Ramz takes his goals - he is next level stuff.

Lovely finish

https://twitter.com/thevillahome/status/1634612109425123333?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dorsetvillian on March 11, 2023, 06:47:05 PM
Saw Bogarde play at FGR today. Played Defensive midfield in a two. Very impressive. Cool in possession. Clever passing in tight areas. Made some great interceptions and also an assist. It's a very physical league. Bristol Rovers won 3-1.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Pat McMahon on March 11, 2023, 06:51:30 PM
Saw Bogarde play at FGR today. Played Defensive midfield in a two. Very impressive. Cool in possession. Clever passing in tight areas. Made some great interceptions and also an assist. It's a very physical league. Bristol Rovers won 3-1.

One mate who is a Gashead was singing his praises a week ago, saying he was surprised how he was coping with the physicality of division 1
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2023, 06:55:21 PM
Saw Bogarde play at FGR today. Played Defensive midfield in a two. Very impressive. Cool in possession. Clever passing in tight areas. Made some great interceptions and also an assist. It's a very physical league. Bristol Rovers won 3-1.

Bloody hell, wouldn’t want to get in the way of Duncan Ferguson and Joey Barton having a set to, that’s got to be the most unhinged manager match up in history.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 11, 2023, 07:00:05 PM
Saw Bogarde play at FGR today. Played Defensive midfield in a two. Very impressive. Cool in possession. Clever passing in tight areas. Made some great interceptions and also an assist. It's a very physical league. Bristol Rovers won 3-1.

Bloody hell, wouldn’t want to get in the way of Duncan Ferguson and Joey Barton having a set to, that’s got to be the most unhinged manager match up in history.

El Twatico
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 11, 2023, 07:02:56 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/4R2xHBP/E8-ACD407-E0-D0-4380-B02-C-5-DC822-E9796-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4R2xHBP)
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 11, 2023, 07:33:49 PM
It was said Aaron Ramsey coming through was thought of as more highly rated than Jacob Ramsey...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2023, 07:39:44 PM
I hope there’s a big “Thank you Villa” thread on the Boro forums.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: rougegorge on March 11, 2023, 08:16:34 PM
'That second half performance will live long in the memory. One of the best performances from an attacking boro player I have seen he had everything.'

That was a view on Ramsey today. I think he is the better of the two loanees there.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dorsetvillian on March 11, 2023, 08:33:21 PM
Re Bristol Rovers. They had Scott Sinclair on the wing ad Glen Whealan came on in the 85 min or so for Bogarde.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 11, 2023, 08:34:47 PM
Jeesh, don't these lads ever give up?

I hope Mrs Whelan has adjusted ok to a difference in lifestyle since Glen was on his Villa contract.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: LukeJames on March 11, 2023, 09:14:21 PM
Oh man, that Ramsey goal is special, I'm doing that thing again were I convince myself we've got a fucking gem.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 12, 2023, 07:04:26 PM
Just caught the ITV Championship highlights (didn't know they had the rights but since getting ITVX without ads, I've been having a mooch at the content).

Wanted to see Tim Iroegubnam's goal for QPR and bugger-me, if it wasn't our own Jack Woodward on commentary! A fine finish from our young lad, cue Jack: "Tim the teenage talent is thriving".
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 15, 2023, 08:08:00 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/middlesbrough-vs-stoke-city/report/468257

Middlesboro 1- 1 Stoke.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on March 18, 2023, 04:27:24 PM
Archer (2), Philogene and Davis all on target so far today.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Mister E on March 18, 2023, 04:34:57 PM
And Barry has an assist for Salford
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on March 18, 2023, 05:34:26 PM
There’s often a debate whether a young player should/shouldn’t go out on loan, for me the joy and hope generated by seeing a player doing well makes loans well worth it. Take Kessler, we rarely mention him now but was developing nicely whilst at Swindon. Archer has gone from being a non-story (some posters excluded) to having a genuine buzz about him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on March 18, 2023, 07:32:00 PM
Keinan's goal - oh, I say!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on March 18, 2023, 07:40:32 PM
I think Cam, A Ramsey and Iroegbunam will all be part of the first team squad next season. That's going to allow us to spend big on fewer positions.

I've got a sneaky feeling that Emery's spending time on the training ground to get Kessler ready to replace Ashley Young next year too.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 18, 2023, 08:01:51 PM
I want to see how Finn Azaz does too along with JPB. Very exciting times
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on March 18, 2023, 08:33:47 PM
I want to see how Finn Azaz does too along with JPB. Very exciting times

The worst case with these players is we can sell them for say £2-5M (with decent sell on clauses).  That could pay for the staff at the academy for another season.  Rinse and repeat and the future is very promising.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on March 18, 2023, 08:57:52 PM
The Barry assist is very good, it's good to see him starting to show his quality.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on March 19, 2023, 01:47:01 PM
I saw an article the other day that was praising Middlesbrough for having the foresight 2 academy lads from the same club who had been playing together for years. And you could see that with Aaron Ramsey playing on the left of their front 3 and Archer and Akpom often swapping positions. The article suggested this might happen more often (they neglected that Sheffield United already have 2 Man City players on loan).

My first thought was how beneficial it would be for us if several of our kids were integrated into the first team squad, having gone and got that first team experience at a good level.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: FatSam on March 21, 2023, 11:33:53 PM
Finn Azaz’s Plymouth went top of League One tonight.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 01, 2023, 03:39:12 PM
Philogene's just scored a corker for cardiff
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 01, 2023, 03:45:33 PM
And some beautiful set-up play from Ramsey and Archer for Boro's opener just now.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on April 01, 2023, 05:14:09 PM
Their understanding of playing together could be a big plus for us.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on April 01, 2023, 09:09:43 PM
Philogene scored for Cardiff in a 3-2 defeat to Swansea today. I bet that was “lively” afterwards.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 01, 2023, 10:20:26 PM
What the hell has happened to Watford? Three managers this season and no better off. I *think* The Athletic said back in August that they are obliged to complete the signing of Keinan in the summer at a pre-agreed price?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Villafirst on April 02, 2023, 07:43:35 AM
I see Tim Iroegbunam missed QPR's game at Wigan yesterday. Is he injured?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 02, 2023, 10:30:39 AM
Philogene scored for Cardiff in a 3-2 defeat to Swansea today. I bet that was “lively” afterwards.

Good goal.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 02, 2023, 10:31:11 AM
And some beautiful set-up play from Ramsey and Archer for Boro's opener just now.

Fantastic move.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on April 02, 2023, 10:38:43 AM
Barry didn't get off the bench for Salford on Friday.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 02, 2023, 06:07:18 PM
For some reason a Luton fan page appeared in my Facebook feed as a suggested page. However this was the post

 
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Luton Town have only conceded two goals from open play in the last 13 games and Marvelous Nakamba is a big part of that.

He made 10 tackles in the win over Watford; No player has made more in a Championship match this season.

#COYH |🇿🇼 Marvelous Nakamba   
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Drummond on April 03, 2023, 02:19:31 PM
Barry didn't get off the bench for Salford on Friday.

Is that why he didn't take the penalty?



*Sorry.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on April 10, 2023, 02:39:13 PM
Nakamba Luton player of the month.

https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2023/april/nakamba-diamond/

Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 10, 2023, 02:48:32 PM
Marvellous.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 10, 2023, 07:13:13 PM
Does Aaron Ramsey not have his own thread yet? Great diving header to drag Boro back into it against Weimann-Pieman's lot, away at Bristol.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on April 10, 2023, 07:27:25 PM
Ramsey got an assist as well as a goal.

Cam came on as a late sub. Made a lovely finish but was marginally offside. The through ball was just a little late. If it was the Premier League, the VAR lines would have been out.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 10, 2023, 07:30:10 PM
Looks like they'll have to settle for the Play Offs and Luton look like the best-coached side in the division outside of Burnley.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Clampy on April 10, 2023, 07:35:10 PM
Does Aaron Ramsey not have his own thread yet? Great diving header to drag Boro back into it against Weimann-Pieman's lot, away at Bristol.

No, only Cameron for some reason.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on April 10, 2023, 07:35:47 PM
Feel free to start one.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 10, 2023, 07:36:38 PM
well Cam was a lot more of known entity having scored first team goals for us. Plus the links to Leeg. What has been incredible through all of this is how much Aaron has come into his own.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 10, 2023, 07:41:45 PM
I think Tim Irogbuenam, Louie Barry and maybe a couple of others not quite at Aaron's development stage, have their own. I like that he has stealthily risen up through the ranks, relatively unnoticed. A bit like, er, the Villa themselves!

Norwich, where he was on-loan under Deano, could certainly do with him right now, they are struggling to create and score.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on April 10, 2023, 07:43:36 PM
A. Ramsey is a quality player.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Clampy on April 10, 2023, 07:55:32 PM
Feel free to start one.

Nah, i'll wait until they've earned it.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 10, 2023, 09:28:58 PM
Feel free to start one.

Nah, i'll wait until they've earned it.

Who?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 10, 2023, 09:34:19 PM
Looks like they'll have to settle for the Play Offs and Luton look like the best-coached side in the division outside of Burnley.

Rob Edwards came through the academy at Villa but has also played and coached at Wolves. Is he a Villa fan?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on April 10, 2023, 09:59:17 PM
Feel free to start one.

Nah, i'll wait until they've earned it.

Who?

I assume he does not think A. Ramsey has earned his own thread on here like the others have.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: TelfordVilla on April 10, 2023, 10:46:30 PM
Looks like they'll have to settle for the Play Offs and Luton look like the best-coached side in the division outside of Burnley.

Rob Edwards came through the academy at Villa but has also played and coached at Wolves. Is he a Villa fan?
No. He is a wolves fan
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 11, 2023, 01:43:14 AM
JPB’s footwork is lovely in these clips. I do wonder what it will be like for all of them when they return. Most left under Gerrard and will come back to a very, very different Aston Villa under Emery.

https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1645571139345829892?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on April 11, 2023, 09:00:20 AM
JPB’s footwork is lovely in these clips. I do wonder what it will be like for all of them when they return. Most left under Gerrard and will come back to a very, very different Aston Villa under Emery.

https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1645571139345829892?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag

He was was subbed after 30 odd minutes yesterday, apparently for not following instructions. He's got skills but seems to dwell too long on the ball in those clips, and then make the wrong decision. I expect Ramsey, Archer and Tim are well ahead of him in the pecking order at Villa.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: FatSam on April 11, 2023, 09:10:41 AM
He was was subbed after 30 odd minutes yesterday, apparently for not following instructions.
If Emery can’t get him to follow instructions, then no one can. It will be exciting to see which of the loanees Emery decides to bring into the first team squad next season.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Gareth on April 11, 2023, 09:13:31 AM
A. Ramsey is a quality player.

Agree, he has great ability, like Cam I really hope over the next couple of months they continue being big players who get Boro promoted via play offs.  Feels like this loan is massive for both…from promising kids to trusted senior players.

‘If’ we get to Europe next season I hope Cam, Ramsey, Irogbenum, Bogarde & Azaz are kept around the squad until Christmas as there will be a lot of games and a lot of match day squads to be involved in
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Nev on April 11, 2023, 09:27:47 AM
I always felt that there was a touch of "King Herod" the way Gerrard dealt with some of our youngsters. I was fuming when he sent Tim on loan, but he hasn't kicked on. Granted, QPR have been a bit of a basket case since he went there so hopefully it won't effect him too much.

I sat down to watch Archer for the first time yesterday so was disappointed to find him on the bench but was very impressed with A. Ramsey.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 11, 2023, 09:33:24 AM
Tim has kicked-on. He's been a regular starter for QPR til the last couple of games. He's been top of the table this season, under Beale and then gone through the last few months of horrific form where his team have struggled for any win. All important experience for him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Chris Smith on April 11, 2023, 09:50:09 AM
Feel free to start one.

Nah, i'll wait until they've earned it.

You just haven’t earned it yet Ramsey.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 11, 2023, 10:17:14 AM
Looks like they'll have to settle for the Play Offs and Luton look like the best-coached side in the division outside of Burnley.

Rob Edwards came through the academy at Villa but has also played and coached at Wolves. Is he a Villa fan?


No. He is a wolves fan

Cheers, thought he might be Wolves as any Vila allegiance hadn't been mentioned here.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 11, 2023, 10:19:10 AM
I was fairly impressed with Aaron's game last night.  He was accurate with his passing read the play well for his well taken goal and was always involved. I don't think he's quite there yet but as others have alluded, if he responds well to the coaching at Bodymoor Heath in the summer he may have a chance next season.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Beard82 on April 11, 2023, 10:39:11 AM
Jaden Philogene is apparently off to Chelsea for 9m - 12m
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on April 11, 2023, 10:55:31 AM
Watching A. Ramsey yesterday was interesting. He had large periods missing in the game in the first half, but he ran the show in the second half. His goal was quality, as was his involvement & assist for the second. Watching him in the second half cemented my view that he will fit better in the position that J. Ramsey is currently filling now, better than J. Ramsey. Thats not to say he is a better player, I just think the way he finds space & passes the ball will fit better than J. Ramsey currently does. But both are exciting players to have at the club.

I think Tim Irogbuenam, Louie Barry and maybe a couple of others not quite at Aaron's development stage, have their own. I like that he has stealthily risen up through the ranks, relatively unnoticed. A bit like, er, the Villa themselves!

Norwich, where he was on-loan under Deano, could certainly do with him right now, they are struggling to create and score.

Iroegbunam is 100% at A. Ramseys development stage. The problem he has had since Beale left QPR is that the next couple of managers have been a bit shit, their results have suffered & so has he & hid reputation. I think he has been pushed further forward too because he can drive forward with the ball. Which is a mistake. While Beale was at QPR, he was used as a holding mid & his pace & tenacity, mixed with his ability to pass well & run with the ball made him an exceptional player & a bit of a surprise for the players trying to close him down.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Smithy on April 11, 2023, 11:10:34 AM
Jaden Philogene is apparently off to Chelsea for 9m - 12m

That's a very strange one, so I'd put it down as a fake rumour. He clearly has bags of natural ability, but he hasn't exactly set the Championship alight (despite his highlight reel being very impressive). 

He's also 21, so I think this summer, like Archer, will be a make or break time with the club.  If Emery doesn't think he has what it takes to make it as a first-team squad member this summer, I can see him going - but to Chelsea for £10m+? I'd be very surprised.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Smithy on April 11, 2023, 11:16:39 AM
Aaron Ramsey now has a better goals per minute ratio than Cameron Archer for boro, averaging a goal every 161 minutes (to Cam's one every 170 mins).
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 11, 2023, 11:31:38 AM
Chelsea's business model makes me sick.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 11, 2023, 11:47:03 AM
Chelsea's business model makes me sick.

It is an odd one.  Spend big on potential, don't play them, watch their value drop. 
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dave on April 11, 2023, 12:27:11 PM
Chelsea's business model makes me sick.

It is an odd one.  Spend big on potential, don't play them, watch their value drop. 

Not really. Spend big on potential and give them massive salaries (and set their families up with homes and jobs) so all the young talent wants to go there because they pay the most. Play the ones who are good enough, keep loaning out the ones that aren't until they find the right level to be sold at.

In the last three years Abraham, Gilmour, Zouma, Tomori, Pasalic, Aina and Kalas has brought in around £140m in transfer fees.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on April 11, 2023, 02:11:48 PM
Based on just his footwork, you could imagine him turning up at Dortmund, tearing it up and people asking where he came from. Obviously there's more to it than that so we'll have to see what Emery does with him.

Azaz and Bogarde need to be playing regular Championship football next season. Maybe with some other talents being ready to get their first taste of league fooball. Feeney, Kellyman, T O'Reilly and K Young perhaps.

AJ's really come on leaps and bounds this season. He surprised me with how much of an impact he had at Norwich. Then he got injured and Smith had a bad time and got sacked. Then at Middlesbrough, he's shown maturity at times and looked like he might not be far away from being a part of our squad. I expect Iroegbunam to be an understudy to Kamara and start making appearances.

There's some interesting links to 20-21 year old's who have only played a season or two. I wonder whether a part of our strategy is going to be to identify talent in that sort of bracket and immediately loan them out. Bit like Chelsea but more strategic and less scattergun.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on April 11, 2023, 05:17:28 PM
Based on just his footwork, you could imagine him turning up at Dortmund, tearing it up and people asking where he came from. Obviously there's more to it than that so we'll have to see what Emery does with him.

Azaz and Bogarde need to be playing regular Championship football next season. Maybe with some other talents being ready to get their first taste of league fooball. Feeney, Kellyman, T O'Reilly and K Young perhaps.

AJ's really come on leaps and bounds this season. He surprised me with how much of an impact he had at Norwich. Then he got injured and Smith had a bad time and got sacked. Then at Middlesbrough, he's shown maturity at times and looked like he might not be far away from being a part of our squad. I expect Iroegbunam to be an understudy to Kamara and start making appearances.

There's some interesting links to 20-21 year old's who have only played a season or two. I wonder whether a part of our strategy is going to be to identify talent in that sort of bracket and immediately loan them out. Bit like Chelsea but more strategic and less scattergun.

Rory Wilson & Kerr Smith too...

I agree about Iroegbunam being Kamaras understudy & will be cover for both him & Luiz. A. Ramsey will most likely become cover & competition to J. Ramsey. And eventually will overtake him for that spot. I think he will suit it better.

I think the heavy investment in 16/17 year old quality players for the academy in recent years shows that the comments made by Purslow about players needing to be around the first team at the ages of 18/19-ish are being acted upon & we have a solid plan.

I do see some similarities with the Chelsea model, but we aren't going around spunking money, jobs, cars & houses on their entourages. By bringing in quite a few players & developing them in the right way, we may surprise ourselves with more players like Finn Azaz, who I think was initially brought in to sell for profit, but he has forced his way into our longer term thinking.

Philogene-Bidace is a coin flip for me. For all the fast feet & pace, he lacks consistent end product & will most likely be sold to a Championship club like Preston...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on April 11, 2023, 07:31:08 PM
Aaron Ramsey now has a better goals per minute ratio than Cameron Archer for boro, averaging a goal every 161 minutes (to Cam's one every 170 mins).

Is that just for 'Boro or include his earlier loan spell as well?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Smithy on April 11, 2023, 07:59:35 PM
Aaron Ramsey now has a better goals per minute ratio than Cameron Archer for boro, averaging a goal every 161 minutes (to Cam's one every 170 mins).

Is that just for 'Boro or include his earlier loan spell as well?

Oh, just Boro, I was looking at Boro's BBC results page!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on April 11, 2023, 08:01:45 PM
Cheers.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 11, 2023, 08:40:22 PM
Chelsea's business model makes me sick.

It is an odd one.  Spend big on potential, don't play them, watch their value drop. 

Not really. Spend big on potential and give them massive salaries (and set their families up with homes and jobs) so all the young talent wants to go there because they pay the most. Play the ones who are good enough, keep loaning out the ones that aren't until they find the right level to be sold at.

In the last three years Abraham, Gilmour, Zouma, Tomori, Pasalic, Aina and Kalas has brought in around £140m in transfer fees.

Yeah, they've made an immense amount of money doing that.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on April 11, 2023, 09:14:31 PM
Chelsea's business model makes me sick.

It is an odd one.  Spend big on potential, don't play them, watch their value drop. 

Not really. Spend big on potential and give them massive salaries (and set their families up with homes and jobs) so all the young talent wants to go there because they pay the most. Play the ones who are good enough, keep loaning out the ones that aren't until they find the right level to be sold at.

In the last three years Abraham, Gilmour, Zouma, Tomori, Pasalic, Aina and Kalas has brought in around £140m in transfer fees.

there’s a few more:

Guehi at palace cost £18m according to wiki
Livramento at Southampton cost about £5m from memory
Gallagher elevated his price tag to, I dunno, £40m whilst at Palace

Annoying but Chelsea do a good job at breeding footballers.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 11, 2023, 09:16:18 PM
Gallagher elevated his price tag to, I dunno, £40m whilst at Palace

You're probably right about 40m, but honestly, if Villa paid that much money for someone so staggeringly average as him, I'd be distraught.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: maidstonevillain on April 11, 2023, 09:54:24 PM
Aaron Ramsey now has a better goals per minute ratio than Cameron Archer for boro, averaging a goal every 161 minutes (to Cam's one every 170 mins).

Which is the fair comparison. Because all other variables are the same.

Is that just for 'Boro or include his earlier loan spell as well?

Oh, just Boro, I was looking at Boro's BBC results page!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 12, 2023, 07:01:01 AM
Gallagher elevated his price tag to, I dunno, £40m whilst at Palace

You're probably right about 40m, but honestly, if Villa paid that much money for someone so staggeringly average as him, I'd be distraught.
He hasn’t shown much at Chelsea but he looked really good at Palace.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Gareth on April 12, 2023, 07:35:32 AM
Looked good at Palace, at Chelsea he seems to just come on and run round charging onto people…obviously enough to continually get into England squads though
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on April 12, 2023, 09:46:17 AM
Easy to look lost at that basket case of a football club tbh.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on April 12, 2023, 12:23:35 PM
Yes, they even hid Mourinho inside a kit basket to circumvent his ban ahead of one Chumps League game, didnt they
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Drummond on April 12, 2023, 01:13:07 PM
I'd trust Emery with any signing right now. I'd also trust our recruitment team too.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on April 14, 2023, 08:11:55 PM
Archer with an assist for Ramsey.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on April 14, 2023, 08:55:03 PM
Has a team's promotion bid ever been so dependent on 2 loan signings from the same club?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 14, 2023, 09:22:05 PM
Decent night so far for Villabrough
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on April 14, 2023, 10:02:43 PM
2 goals & 2 assists for Archer, 1 goal for A. Ramsey.

Not a bad night at all...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 22, 2023, 04:17:32 PM
Louie Barry sent off
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 22, 2023, 04:18:03 PM
Louie Barry sent off for Salford.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ronshirt on April 29, 2023, 06:52:33 PM
Carlisle United 2 v 3 Salford City

Barry wide left in a front 3. Played a lovely ball between full back and centre-back for the first goal. Ran at the defence for fun. Left the field early second half with what looked to be a kidney complaint.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on April 29, 2023, 10:08:04 PM
Seems to be finding his feet. Big season for him next year.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Gareth on April 30, 2023, 08:33:03 AM
I think they’ve done well with Barry, after that Cup goal they could have just thrown him in, he would have sunk….he’s still raw and learning…next year league one or champ loan and hopefully he’ll develop like Archer who let’s face it when he wasn’t pulling up trees at Solihull Lee was in a minority of one who thought he’d make it & he’s flying now and a good career awaits
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on April 30, 2023, 01:15:27 PM
Youth players seem to go through spurts of development. If I remember right, Cam started well at Solihull, picked up an injury and then struggled a bit for form. He had a summer break and then really impressed our coaches in pre-season, did well in some cup games then really came to prominance at Preston. A lot seemed to happen in that summer and it seems to have been the making of him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on April 30, 2023, 05:00:41 PM
Philogene-Bidace played ok for Cardiff earlier today. Got an assist & was their most dangerous player. Cardiff are a bit shit though.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 01, 2023, 04:54:14 PM
JPB named Cardiff’s Young player of the year.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 02, 2023, 11:29:12 AM
Couple of QPR twitter accounts raving about Tim, one tipping him for a Champions League career, another saying he’ll be a PL regular starter at 21 (he’s only 19 currently).
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Gareth on May 02, 2023, 12:03:37 PM
Couple of QPR twitter accounts raving about Tim, one tipping him for a Champions League career, another saying he’ll be a PL regular starter at 21 (he’s only 19 currently).
Strikes me as a player who should be kept around if we do make Europe for first half of season at least, as well as Archer and A.Ramsey…there will be plenty of matches for them to get minutes.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 02, 2023, 12:38:13 PM
Couple of QPR twitter accounts raving about Tim, one tipping him for a Champions League career, another saying he’ll be a PL regular starter at 21 (he’s only 19 currently).
Strikes me as a player who should be kept around if we do make Europe for first half of season at least, as well as Archer and A.Ramsey…there will be plenty of matches for them to get minutes.

Totally agree.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on May 03, 2023, 11:13:32 AM
Couple of QPR twitter accounts raving about Tim, one tipping him for a Champions League career, another saying he’ll be a PL regular starter at 21 (he’s only 19 currently).
Strikes me as a player who should be kept around if we do make Europe for first half of season at least, as well as Archer and A.Ramsey…there will be plenty of matches for them to get minutes.

Plus late subs in matches. All that pace & youthful energy could be quite explosive.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 07, 2023, 03:37:58 PM
Finn scored a good goal for Plymouth today as they won the league.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: adrenachrome on May 07, 2023, 11:32:45 PM
Finn scored a good goal for Plymouth today as they won the league.

Third goal; took it very well.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11738/12872861/port-vale-1-3-plymouth-argyle-comeback-victory-secures-league-one-title
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Steve67 on May 08, 2023, 09:32:04 PM
I see Davis scored for Watford today. Hope they buy him. 9 goals including 2 cup goals. Not exactly ripped it up again. Shame, decent player at that level.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Gareth on May 08, 2023, 09:42:25 PM
I see Davis scored for Watford today. Hope they buy him. 9 goals including 2 cup goals. Not exactly ripped it up again. Shame, decent player at that level.

Last summer was his premium sale time…can’t believe he never ended up at Forest…he might still this summer but nowhere near fee spoke about last summer
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Steve67 on May 08, 2023, 09:51:19 PM
I see Davis scored for Watford today. Hope they buy him. 9 goals including 2 cup goals. Not exactly ripped it up again. Shame, decent player at that level.

Last summer was his premium sale time…can’t believe he never ended up at Forest…he might still this summer but nowhere near fee spoke about last summer

I think you’re right Gareth, we will be lucky to get 2 to 3 mill for him now.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on May 08, 2023, 10:09:07 PM
There's already an agreed permanent fee for him with Watford, as part of his loan-deal last summer. Not sure if they have to follow through with it, I think the Athletic said it was around £10m. If not, we'll probably get half that amount selling him elsewhere.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Gareth on May 08, 2023, 11:31:44 PM
Think it was an obligation if promoted so doubt they’ll take him
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on May 09, 2023, 09:14:47 AM
There's already an agreed permanent fee for him with Watford, as part of his loan-deal last summer. Not sure if they have to follow through with it, I think the Athletic said it was around £10m. If not, we'll probably get half that amount selling him elsewhere.

I'm not sure it'll be half, he's worth £10m to someone (he'd be fantastic for Southampton down there for example). He's never going to score a hatful, 10-12 a season in the championship is probably about his peak, but he brings so much more on top that any team with goals elsewhere in the squad will benefit from him. Forest are a perfect example, he was a massive part of why they were promoted because him being there made the rest of their team better.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: VinnieChase84 on May 09, 2023, 09:17:55 AM
There's already an agreed permanent fee for him with Watford, as part of his loan-deal last summer. Not sure if they have to follow through with it, I think the Athletic said it was around £10m. If not, we'll probably get half that amount selling him elsewhere.

I'm not sure it'll be half, he's worth £10m to someone (he'd be fantastic for Southampton down there for example). He's never going to score a hatful, 10-12 a season in the championship is probably about his peak, but he brings so much more on top that any team with goals elsewhere in the squad will benefit from him. Forest are a perfect example, he was a massive part of why they were promoted because him being there made the rest of their team better.

Main issue with him is he cannot stay fit for long periods of time. Will always seem to miss a few months of the season without fail
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on May 09, 2023, 09:24:59 AM
Davis is a good player but an average striker. His injury record is rotten, and that's always going to affect how he's viewed. He's got a goal in every four/five games at Forest and Watford, which would be OK if he was fit all the time, because as Paul says he offers more than just goals, but as he's often injured he's never going to be seen as a main man. He's 25 now, so he needs to move on. Could see the fee being anywhere between £5m and £10m.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dave on May 09, 2023, 09:32:10 AM
There's already an agreed permanent fee for him with Watford, as part of his loan-deal last summer. Not sure if they have to follow through with it, I think the Athletic said it was around £10m. If not, we'll probably get half that amount selling him elsewhere.

I'm not sure it'll be half, he's worth £10m to someone (he'd be fantastic for Southampton down there for example).

They spent £15m on Onuachu in January, and I can't imagine he'd be going anywhere else - and he's the sort of "brilliant in Belgium, can't make the Premier League step-up" who would probably tear up the Championship anyway. At 6ft 7 he probably does the thing that a team would want Davis to do.

You wouldn't think Armstrong and Adams have done enough to warrant a Premier League side signing them either, and both have scored buckets in the Championship in the past, so I expect they're fully set for strikers.

Even a 34 year old Walcott will probably stick 15 away next season.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on May 09, 2023, 09:47:49 AM
There's already an agreed permanent fee for him with Watford, as part of his loan-deal last summer. Not sure if they have to follow through with it, I think the Athletic said it was around £10m. If not, we'll probably get half that amount selling him elsewhere.

I'm not sure it'll be half, he's worth £10m to someone (he'd be fantastic for Southampton down there for example).

They spent £15m on Onuachu in January, and I can't imagine he'd be going anywhere else - and he's the sort of "brilliant in Belgium, can't make the Premier League step-up" who would probably tear up the Championship anyway. At 6ft 7 he probably does the thing that a team would want Davis to do.

You wouldn't think Armstrong and Adams have done enough to warrant a Premier League side signing them either, and both have scored buckets in the Championship in the past, so I expect they're fully set for strikers.

Even a 34 year old Walcott will probably stick 15 away next season.

I'd forgotten about Onuachu to be fair but I was mostly thinking about how people like Adams and Armstrong would love to play alongside Davis and let him do all the dirty work for them. That said I think the same would be true for most of the sides in the relegation mix and for a fair few sides around the top half of the championship as well.

Davis is a good player but an average striker. His injury record is rotten, and that's always going to affect how he's viewed. He's got a goal in every four/five games at Forest and Watford, which would be OK if he was fit all the time, because as Paul says he offers more than just goals, but as he's often injured he's never going to be seen as a main man. He's 25 now, so he needs to move on. Could see the fee being anywhere between £5m and £10m.

Value is probably fair, i just think it'll be much closer to the top end of that scale, even iwth all the injuries he's a player that has a big impact on almost every game he plays, and for a team chasing promotion that's worth a gamble.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on May 09, 2023, 10:20:38 AM
If Leicester stick with Smith when they go down, he could be an option there.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Drummond on May 09, 2023, 11:29:30 AM
If Leicester stick with Smith when they go down, he could be an option there.

Yep, you wonder whether Vardy will realise he's past it and hang up his boots, or give it another year at a lower level.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on May 09, 2023, 02:10:04 PM
If Leicester stick with Smith when they go down, he could be an option there.

Yep, you wonder whether Vardy will realise he's past it and hang up his boots, or give it another year at a lower level.

He's still got his stupid wife's legal bills to pay off, reckon he'll do another year down there.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 09, 2023, 02:16:40 PM
If Leicester stick with Smith when they go down, he could be an option there.

I doubt they will, he's not exactly pulling up any trees there.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Risso on May 09, 2023, 02:23:05 PM
If Leicester stick with Smith when they go down, he could be an option there.

I doubt they will, he's not exactly pulling up any trees there.

He isn't, but can they afford anybody better?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: rjp on May 09, 2023, 03:21:53 PM
I found this on Twitter.  It's an interesting review of Iroegbunam from a QPR fan.

https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145 (https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145)
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 09, 2023, 03:30:36 PM
I found this on Twitter.  It's an interesting review of Iroegbunam from a QPR fan.

https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145 (https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145)

Interesting and positive stuff given QPR have had a poor season. Cheers for posting it.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: OCD on May 09, 2023, 04:52:17 PM
Answering whether the thread is for Villa or QPR fans...

"For both to be honest, otherwise all you’ll hear about his loan will be a wishy washy article from “Birmingham Live”"

Birmingham Mail's reputation is broad lol.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 06, 2023, 01:51:50 AM
Sanson looks like he did well:

https://twitter.com/morgan_sanson8/status/1665757301720875008?s=46&t=XNNJBP5dvH3h87s3C5xRMg
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Hookeysmith on June 06, 2023, 07:09:13 AM
Decent player but not good enough for where we are hoping to go
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: algy on June 06, 2023, 07:30:49 AM
Decent player but not good enough for where we are hoping to go
If we are attempting to sign Tielemans then I don't see where Sanson fits in. I just don't see him competing with Dougie/Kamara/Dendonker/maybe Tielemans for a more holding role. And I think there's even less chance of him filling a gap currently occupied by McGinn/Ramsey/Coutinho/Buendia.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dogtanian on June 06, 2023, 08:14:22 AM
He's a strange one. No one has really said anything bad about him, yet he never gets anywhere with us.

Didn't Emery sing his praises before saying it's very difficult to give him game time?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 06, 2023, 08:21:11 AM
It’s an enigma.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on June 06, 2023, 09:22:24 AM
I found this on Twitter.  It's an interesting review of Iroegbunam from a QPR fan.

https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145 (https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145)

Interesting read.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: frank black on June 06, 2023, 10:12:18 AM
I found this on Twitter.  It's an interesting review of Iroegbunam from a QPR fan.

https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145 (https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145)

Interesting read.

Great potential this lad, my favourite of the youngsters.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 06, 2023, 10:28:36 AM
I found this on Twitter.  It's an interesting review of Iroegbunam from a QPR fan.

https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145 (https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145)

Interesting read.
So nice to read fans being respectful to each other and having a decent technical conversation.
I have Generally liked the QPR fans I have met.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on June 06, 2023, 10:45:10 AM
I found this on Twitter.  It's an interesting review of Iroegbunam from a QPR fan.

https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145 (https://twitter.com/r_insights23/status/1653131611930501145)

Interesting read.

Great potential this lad, my favourite of the youngsters.

Yeah, mine too. 👍
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Monty on June 06, 2023, 10:48:17 AM
That's very exciting to read!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on June 06, 2023, 01:32:30 PM
Time to bring Morg and Tim back for our assault on Europe. Not bothered about signing Teleman or Gwendoozy.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: leylandalbion on June 06, 2023, 07:27:48 PM
Time to bring Morg and Tim back for our assault on Europe. Not bothered about signing Teleman or Gwendoozy.
Really? Trust players who have only played in the French league and championship...bring em back and sign both tiellemans and guendozi and loan out one of the others after preseason
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on June 06, 2023, 09:28:29 PM
Sorry, I know you're probably right but I have attachment issues.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dogtanian on June 07, 2023, 08:32:16 AM
Surely, players playing at the top end of the Championship and excelling are going to be able to compete against most of the sides in the conference league?

Aaron Ramsey and Archer certainly would.

Iroegbunam I think would go out on loan again as he is less consistent than the other two, but if he did stay in the setup then he'd definitely get time on the pitch too.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Footy-Vill on June 08, 2023, 05:14:15 PM
I really hope that a few of the younger guys join the first team group for the upcoming season I don't think i'm alone in predicting the possibility of some young players seeing action in domestic cup tournaments and the Europa Conference League.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: SaddVillan on August 02, 2023, 04:14:38 PM
Finn Azaz back down the M5.
Season long loan at Plymouth Argyle Argyle l.

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1686753729377189888?t=LkqasQUky4OzNT2G93Jtog&s=08
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on August 02, 2023, 04:24:33 PM
Our strategy on the young ones we're unsure about seems to be to extend their contracts, rather than sell them, and then see how they fare on-loan. I presume we think that he may yet "explode" in which case we get a nice transfer fee or give him a shot at first team football here.

Are loan-fees a common thing between PL and Championship clubs? Or are they all so close to being skint that they offer to top up his wages and guarantee that they'll give him a run of games as long as he trains well and fits the team tactics?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Ger Regan on August 02, 2023, 04:36:26 PM
Well it beats bomb squads and free transfers as the norm.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 02, 2023, 05:43:23 PM
It is also hugely sensible for FFP purposes (Azaz a bit different, I know).

Chelsea and Man City both do very well producing young players who barely ever play for them.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Ian. on August 02, 2023, 05:45:45 PM
Finn Azaz back down the M5.
Season long loan at Plymouth Argyle Argyle l.

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1686753729377189888?t=LkqasQUky4OzNT2G93Jtog&s=08

That’s great, my Argyle season ticket holed mate will be well pleased.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 02, 2023, 05:52:19 PM
It is also hugely sensible for FFP purposes (Azaz a bit different, I know).

Chelsea and Man City both do very well producing young players who barely ever play for them.

Guardiola said in an interview that Man City have made £80m from academy players. It does appear that if you pump enough cash in you can build an academy that consistently produces top quality players (like Man City and Chelsea).  Arguably a club like villa will have the added USP that we might actually play some of our graduates too.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Matt C on August 02, 2023, 06:25:44 PM
They’ve raised somewhere in the order of 40m this summer already selling players I’ve never even heard of (at least until the u21 tournament). Presume they put buy-back clauses in all too so it’s in effect a very lucrative loan deal if they choose.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 02, 2023, 06:34:36 PM
The other thing about selling home grown players is you can bank the entire sum for one year FFP purposes if you like. That's a massive bonus, and what we profited from with the Grealish and Chukwuemeka cash.

It's also a pointer to why we are doing something else Man City did, ie build an inner city academy next to the stadium.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 02, 2023, 07:03:04 PM
The other thing about selling home grown players is you can bank the entire sum for one year FFP purposes if you like. That's a massive bonus, and what we profited from with the Grealish and Chukwuemeka cash.

It's also a pointer to why we are doing something else Man City did, ie build an inner city academy next to the stadium.

that’s a good point and illustrates why a club might be better selling (with a buy back) rather than a series of loans.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on August 02, 2023, 10:05:31 PM
Finn Azaz back down the M5.
Season long loan at Plymouth Argyle Argyle l.

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1686753729377189888?t=LkqasQUky4OzNT2G93Jtog&s=08

That’s great, my Argyle season ticket holed mate will be well pleased.

Yep. My brother in law & nephew are too.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Ian. on August 03, 2023, 06:35:47 AM
Finn Azaz back down the M5.
Season long loan at Plymouth Argyle Argyle l.

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1686753729377189888?t=LkqasQUky4OzNT2G93Jtog&s=08

That’s great, my Argyle season ticket holed mate will be well pleased.

Yep. My brother in law & nephew are too.

He sounds extremely popular with their fans, my mate said their form took a tumble when he got injured last season.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on August 03, 2023, 12:44:43 PM
Finn Azaz back down the M5.
Season long loan at Plymouth Argyle Argyle l.

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1686753729377189888?t=LkqasQUky4OzNT2G93Jtog&s=08

That’s great, my Argyle season ticket holed mate will be well pleased.

Yep. My brother in law & nephew are too.

He sounds extremely popular with their fans, my mate said their form took a tumble when he got injured last season.

Yes, he is. They absolutely love him.

My brother in law & nephew both said to me that they have seen Azaz do things that others at the club cannot skill wise & they struggled when he was out injured.

My cleaner said a very similar thing & they were all desperate for him to return.

They are all extremely happy... 👍
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AV82EC on August 03, 2023, 12:54:33 PM
Finn Azaz back down the M5.
Season long loan at Plymouth Argyle Argyle l.

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1686753729377189888?t=LkqasQUky4OzNT2G93Jtog&s=08

That’s great, my Argyle season ticket holed mate will be well pleased.

Yep. My brother in law & nephew are too.

He sounds extremely popular with their fans, my mate said their form took a tumble when he got injured last season.

Yes, he is. They absolutely love him.

My brother in law & nephew both said to me that they have seen Azaz do things that others at the club cannot skill wise & they struggled when he was out injured.

My cleaner said a very similar thing & they were all desperate for him to return.

They are all extremely happy... 👍

Well let’s hope he and they have a good season….oh and that’ll be £15m please if you want to sign him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 03, 2023, 01:30:18 PM
Finn Azaz back down the M5.
Season long loan at Plymouth Argyle Argyle l.

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1686753729377189888?t=LkqasQUky4OzNT2G93Jtog&s=08

That’s great, my Argyle season ticket holed mate will be well pleased.

Yep. My brother in law & nephew are too.

He sounds extremely popular with their fans, my mate said their form took a tumble when he got injured last season.

Yes, he is. They absolutely love him.

My brother in law & nephew both said to me that they have seen Azaz do things that others at the club cannot skill wise & they struggled when he was out injured.

My cleaner said a very similar thing & they were all desperate for him to return.

They are all extremely happy... 👍

What does your butler reckon?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on August 03, 2023, 01:46:55 PM
😂
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2023, 02:23:36 PM
Excellently put. I was gonna jibe with the same angle but it wouldn't have matched Percy's effort.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: FatSam on August 05, 2023, 04:42:00 PM
KKH with an assist v Huddersfield. Plymouth leading 3-1. Azaz an unused sub so far.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 05, 2023, 04:49:02 PM
KKH with an assist v Huddersfield. Plymouth leading 3-1. Azaz an unused sub so far.

The BBC suggests he is playing left back.  Glad he’s starting but its a big ask to play out of position.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 05, 2023, 05:46:55 PM
Louie Barry subbed on 64' for Stockport owing to injury
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: SaddVillan on August 05, 2023, 06:27:09 PM
KKH with an assist v Huddersfield. Plymouth leading 3-1. Azaz an unused sub so far.
The BBC suggests he is playing left back.  Glad he’s starting but its a big ask to play out of position.

From a mate who has a ST at Home Park:

KKH had a really good game, mainly as a left back but interchanged with Mumba nicely in midfield.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 05, 2023, 06:32:55 PM
Azaz came on in the end.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dekko on August 05, 2023, 07:51:53 PM
KKH with an assist v Huddersfield. Plymouth leading 3-1. Azaz an unused sub so far.

If that's the one I've just seen its a five yard pass followed by the other guy running through the whole Huddersfield team.

They all count though.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 12, 2023, 03:28:41 PM
Barry starts for Stockport.
Azaz on the bench for Plymouth,no Kesler-Hayden in the squad
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 12, 2023, 03:33:00 PM
Kesler injured apparently.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 12, 2023, 03:39:19 PM
Surprised Azaz is on the bench considering how well he did there last year.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Dogtanian on August 12, 2023, 03:48:14 PM
Surprised Azaz is on the bench considering how well he did there last year.

He’s not yet fully match fit, I think.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AV84 on August 29, 2023, 08:12:19 PM
Anyone been watching Exeter City at all? Sinisalo seems to be doing alright so far. No idea what the standard of play is like in Lg1 but they're 2nd with only 2 goals conceded in 5 games.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: UK Redsox on August 29, 2023, 08:55:09 PM
Anyone been watching Exeter City at all? Sinisalo seems to be doing alright so far. No idea what the standard of play is like in Lg1 but they're 2nd with only 2 goals conceded in 5 games.

Saw him play on TV a couple of weeks ago. Looked ok
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: FatSam on August 29, 2023, 09:53:05 PM
Anyone been watching Exeter City at all? Sinisalo seems to be doing alright so far. No idea what the standard of play is like in Lg1 but they're 2nd with only 2 goals conceded in 5 games.
Involved in a penalty shootout in the Carabao Cup this evening. Has just saved a penalty allowing Exeter to beat Stevenage.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 29, 2023, 11:43:42 PM
KKH had a good game tonight by the look of it.

https://x.com/argyle/status/1696641823765131329?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Drummond on August 29, 2023, 11:48:58 PM
Anyone been watching Exeter City at all? Sinisalo seems to be doing alright so far. No idea what the standard of play is like in Lg1 but they're 2nd with only 2 goals conceded in 5 games.
Involved in a penalty shootout in the Carabao Cup this evening. Has just saved a penalty allowing Exeter to beat Stevenage.

So he is better than Olsen then.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on August 30, 2023, 11:00:53 AM
KKH had a good game tonight by the look of it.

https://x.com/argyle/status/1696641823765131329?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA

They absolutely love him...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AV84 on August 30, 2023, 12:48:04 PM
Couple of decent saves from Sinisalo (in blue) although the one he let in looks a bit soft. Touch of the Martinez about him when he saves the penalty


Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on August 30, 2023, 02:45:15 PM
I think that's harsh, the guy had the time and space to put it either side so he had to stay central until after the header and from there it was right in the corner, first choice top flight keepers might get there not many outside that group.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 30, 2023, 03:03:33 PM
KKH had a good game tonight by the look of it.

https://x.com/argyle/status/1696641823765131329?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA

They absolutely love him...
Caught a bit of the commentary last night...."oozes quality" or words to that effect!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AV84 on August 30, 2023, 03:15:15 PM
I think that's harsh, the guy had the time and space to put it either side so he had to stay central until after the header and from there it was right in the corner, first choice top flight keepers might get there not many outside that group.

Fair enough, I only watched it once and was really just looking at him. Looked a bit like the goal Olsen conceded against Burnley in that he seemed to jump but do nothing with his arms. Which is obviously not what's happening.
Looks a decent enough keeper though, hopefully Exeter get a glamour tie in the next round so we might get to watch a full match of him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on August 30, 2023, 03:18:40 PM
I think that's harsh, the guy had the time and space to put it either side so he had to stay central until after the header and from there it was right in the corner, first choice top flight keepers might get there not many outside that group.

Fair enough, I only watched it once and was really just looking at him. Looked a bit like the goal Olsen conceded against Burnley in that he seemed to jump but do nothing with his arms. Which is obviously not what's happening.
Looks a decent enough keeper though, hopefully Exeter get a glamour tie in the next round so we might get to watch a full match of him.

From what I've seen of them I think him and Marschall are both very good young keepers and either would've bene a solid choice as 3rd for this season. I hope they both develop and can fight it out for 2nd and 3rd spots next season.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: dcdavecollett on August 31, 2023, 12:39:33 AM
In National League circles, Marschall is regarded as a bit dodgy on corners.

He's got plenty of time to work on that, of course.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 01, 2023, 02:38:07 PM
Chisom Afoka off on loan to Bradford. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66684927
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: UK Redsox on September 01, 2023, 11:04:12 PM
Seb Revan to Rotherham
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Steve67 on September 01, 2023, 11:11:33 PM
Seb Revan to Rotherham

Good move for him.  Hope he does really well for them.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: fredm on September 02, 2023, 01:59:31 PM
Cameron Archer gets off the mark at Bramall Lane.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 02, 2023, 04:00:09 PM
Azaz scores for Plymouth.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on September 02, 2023, 04:26:37 PM
I think Barry has scored for Stockport too...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 02, 2023, 04:40:06 PM
I think Barry has scored for Stockport too...

He did, in a 2-3 loss.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AV84 on September 02, 2023, 05:03:43 PM
Another clean sheet for Sinisalo at Exeter. They're top of Lg1 as of now, only 2 goals conceded in 6 games.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: pablo_picasso on September 02, 2023, 07:38:06 PM
I think Barry has scored for Stockport too...

He did, in a 2-3 loss.

That will be his 3rd in 6 League 2 games...
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on September 02, 2023, 08:38:07 PM
I think Barry has scored for Stockport too...

He did, in a 2-3 loss.

That will be his 3rd in 6 League 2 games...

Long may it continue. If he has any hope of making it with us he really needs to be getting 20+ at that level.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AV84 on September 02, 2023, 09:37:28 PM
Sinisalo's Finish accent must be impossible for players to understand.

Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: paul_e on September 02, 2023, 09:52:22 PM
I really rate Sinisalo, I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back and takes Olsen's place in the squad either in January or next summer.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on September 02, 2023, 10:20:06 PM
https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=64051
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 02, 2023, 11:14:46 PM
Was a great strike by Barry for Stockport.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: AV84 on September 02, 2023, 11:22:21 PM
I really rate Sinisalo, I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back and takes Olsen's place in the squad either in January or next summer.

Yeah, he's definitely the player on loan I'm most interested in keeping track of.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
Post by: Legion on September 02, 2023, 11:31:28 PM
https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=64051
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