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Online Ger Regan

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #240 on: March 08, 2023, 10:45:35 AM »
I don't think he's kicked a ball in competition for us has he?  I've been following his loan spells and he seems to have been good wherever he's been.  I think the lad deserves a chance next season and I'm sure the staff are monitoring him, at least I hope so.
He played against barrow in the league cup i believe.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #241 on: March 08, 2023, 11:16:14 AM »
I think he went under the radar a little with so much talk about Chukwuemeka.

Both Aaron and Chukwuemeka destroyed teams in that Youth Cup run. They're probably on a similar level to eachother but there was a lot of talk about the latter. Although people have been saying that Aaron is better than Jacob for as long as they've both been on the scene.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #242 on: March 08, 2023, 11:35:53 AM »
It's great to see Aaron getting plenty of game time as I always felt he was one of those unlucky players that just missed out on various opportunities. He didn't get to play against Liverpool in the FA Cup because I think he was still living with Jacob so had to isolate with him. Then he missed a couple of important games in the Youth Cup run, I think coming on as sub in the final because he wasn't fully fit. Up until his injury, I agree with OCD - he'd been as impressive as Chukwuemeka in that run.

Sometimes little setbacks like that can have a huge impact on a young player, but he seems to have ploughed on regardless. He has always been a very neat and tidy player, really good at give and go's around the box. But he seems to be adding a bit more physicality to his game now as well. I hope he keeps pushing on for the rest of the season so we can have a look at him over the summer.

On a wider point - how nice is it to have players on loan at a level that, not very long ago, our first team was struggling to play at? I want us to progress quicker, obviously, but we have come a long way in the last 4 years or so.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #243 on: March 08, 2023, 12:27:42 PM »
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Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #244 on: March 08, 2023, 12:39:52 PM »
How old's the 'younger' James Collins now?

32  :-[

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #245 on: March 08, 2023, 12:56:46 PM »
I don't think he's kicked a ball in competition for us has he?  I've been following his loan spells and he seems to have been good wherever he's been.  I think the lad deserves a chance next season and I'm sure the staff are monitoring him, at least I hope so.
He played against barrow in the league cup i believe.

Typical.  I watched that Barrow game and can't remember him in it at all.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #246 on: March 08, 2023, 01:06:33 PM »
On a wider point - how nice is it to have players on loan at a level that, not very long ago, our first team was struggling to play at? I want us to progress quicker, obviously, but we have come a long way in the last 4 years or so.

A really good point. It feels like the foundations, or roots, of the club are as healthy as they’ve been in a long time.

Some luck and continuity with the management and you’d hope that the first team will start feeling the benefit soon.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #247 on: March 08, 2023, 01:42:01 PM »
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Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

I'm glad he's doing well, I think he could become a very good player but he seemed to stand still for a while, probably because he really needed senior football. With him, Feeney and Smith I hope we'll have 1-2 come through to fill the 4th/5th CB role.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #248 on: March 08, 2023, 01:42:42 PM »
Fin Azaz got another assist and MOTM last night. 7 goals 7 assists for the season, he looks a player

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #249 on: March 08, 2023, 02:06:16 PM »
He does, he'd be a late breakthrough at a high level given his age.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #250 on: March 08, 2023, 02:44:43 PM »
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Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

I guess it's good news but I'd really have to question the wisdom of letting any of our young players benefit from Joey Barton's man management.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #251 on: March 08, 2023, 03:06:33 PM »
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Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

I'm glad he's doing well, I think he could become a very good player but he seemed to stand still for a while, probably because he really needed senior football. With him, Feeney and Smith I hope we'll have 1-2 come through to fill the 4th/5th CB role.

Bogarde's being used as a midfielder so he might become an understudy for Kamara.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #252 on: March 08, 2023, 03:20:28 PM »

Bogarde's being used as a midfielder so he might become an understudy for Kamara.
Along with Tim, I'd hope.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #253 on: March 08, 2023, 03:22:45 PM »
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Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

I'm glad he's doing well, I think he could become a very good player but he seemed to stand still for a while, probably because he really needed senior football. With him, Feeney and Smith I hope we'll have 1-2 come through to fill the 4th/5th CB role.

Bogarde's being used as a midfielder so he might become an understudy for Kamara.

Honestly I'd like him to be comfortable as both. Players who can cover 2-3 positions and do different jobs game-to-game are really useful to have around and are generally technically sound, which helps for the type of build-up Emery is going for.

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Re: Loanwatch 2022/23
« Reply #254 on: March 08, 2023, 03:38:19 PM »
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Bogarde, who arrived within minutes of the January transfer deadline, has started the past four games for the Gas, playing slightly different midfield roles. In the win at Oxford United in late February, he was tasked with getting from box to box and he won the crucial penalty to take the lead en route to ending a seven-game winless run.

He backed that up with a more defensively-focused showing against Barnsley on Saturday, stoking roars from the terraces with some meaty challenges as well as moving the ball crisply and efficiently.

"He’s quality, isn’t he?" Barton said after Saturday's stalemate with Barnsley. "You can see his composure and he is young in terms of years on the clock, but he is very mature and he passes the ball correctly.

"The one thing that is labelled at this technical, certainly foreign player is they don’t dig in and have a bite. For me, if you watch Lamare he does a bit of everything.

"He is another young player, but another with enormous potential."

I'm glad he's doing well, I think he could become a very good player but he seemed to stand still for a while, probably because he really needed senior football. With him, Feeney and Smith I hope we'll have 1-2 come through to fill the 4th/5th CB role.

Bogarde's being used as a midfielder so he might become an understudy for Kamara.

Honestly I'd like him to be comfortable as both. Players who can cover 2-3 positions and do different jobs game-to-game are really useful to have around and are generally technically sound, which helps for the type of build-up Emery is going for.
Chambers, who isn't that great, seems to have found a bit of a niche with us in terms of him providing backups as 4th choice defender and 4th choice DM.  For Bogarde, I'd really be targeting Chambers' role in the side, because he could pretty much drop in as a replacement for him, and end up playing a decent number of games purely because he's good enough in a couple of positions.  But he's much younger than Chambers, so could potentially use those appearances to make a claim for a more senior place in the squad.

It's something that will be harder for Archer, Ramsey, and Iroegbunam purely because they're competing against more senior players - Emery's not going to have a player in the squad purely on the basis that they might get on the bench if another player's injured, which currently would be the situation for Tim Iroegbunam (since you'd definitely play Dougie, Kamara, and Dendonker ahead of him)

 


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