Quote from: Ads on January 09, 2024, 05:28:03 PMQuote from: Risso on January 09, 2024, 05:00:13 PMQuote from: Ads on January 09, 2024, 03:03:28 PMPaul is right. He's here to make more money for the club and he's doing it in numbers the club hasn't done before.We're in a ludicrous position of challenging for the title, with the richest non-state backed owners, yet we can't chuck millions at the tilt because we are capped by our piddling income. Heck will and is fixing that.But he isn't. He's squeezing a bit more short term income out and ignoring the effects of having a much bigger North Stand with greatly improved corporate facilities in two stands in two years time, and the big effect that would have on revenue forever thereafter.We've got stupidly rich owners as you say. They can spend what they like on doing up the ground without getting into any sort of FFP strife. If as you seem to think, they're going to build a new stand elsewhere in Birmingham, then we're probably looking at a minimum of 8-10 years to get that. If they want to knock down Villa Park and start again, depending on how they do it, then probably a minimum of 5 years, with a couple of years of playing elsewhere. To get a stadium much bigger than the 52K the new North would have given us is difficult though because of the Witton Lane housing situation. If they did go down the route of buying up all the houses, whether the residents agreed or were forced to sell, that would extend the process still further.Either way, we're stuck with a 42K seater stadium for the medium term, with most of the facilities not being fit for purpose. But at least the club shop is going to double its footprint I suppose.And with a new North Stand we're still left with most of the facilities unfit for purpose and 8000 extra seats barely touching the sides.You can't have a new North and a new stadium. I'd prefer to have patience and wait for the better option.I think you'll be waiting a very long time, and all the time you are waiting, we'll have a relatively small ground.
Quote from: Risso on January 09, 2024, 05:00:13 PMQuote from: Ads on January 09, 2024, 03:03:28 PMPaul is right. He's here to make more money for the club and he's doing it in numbers the club hasn't done before.We're in a ludicrous position of challenging for the title, with the richest non-state backed owners, yet we can't chuck millions at the tilt because we are capped by our piddling income. Heck will and is fixing that.But he isn't. He's squeezing a bit more short term income out and ignoring the effects of having a much bigger North Stand with greatly improved corporate facilities in two stands in two years time, and the big effect that would have on revenue forever thereafter.We've got stupidly rich owners as you say. They can spend what they like on doing up the ground without getting into any sort of FFP strife. If as you seem to think, they're going to build a new stand elsewhere in Birmingham, then we're probably looking at a minimum of 8-10 years to get that. If they want to knock down Villa Park and start again, depending on how they do it, then probably a minimum of 5 years, with a couple of years of playing elsewhere. To get a stadium much bigger than the 52K the new North would have given us is difficult though because of the Witton Lane housing situation. If they did go down the route of buying up all the houses, whether the residents agreed or were forced to sell, that would extend the process still further.Either way, we're stuck with a 42K seater stadium for the medium term, with most of the facilities not being fit for purpose. But at least the club shop is going to double its footprint I suppose.And with a new North Stand we're still left with most of the facilities unfit for purpose and 8000 extra seats barely touching the sides.You can't have a new North and a new stadium. I'd prefer to have patience and wait for the better option.
Quote from: Ads on January 09, 2024, 03:03:28 PMPaul is right. He's here to make more money for the club and he's doing it in numbers the club hasn't done before.We're in a ludicrous position of challenging for the title, with the richest non-state backed owners, yet we can't chuck millions at the tilt because we are capped by our piddling income. Heck will and is fixing that.But he isn't. He's squeezing a bit more short term income out and ignoring the effects of having a much bigger North Stand with greatly improved corporate facilities in two stands in two years time, and the big effect that would have on revenue forever thereafter.We've got stupidly rich owners as you say. They can spend what they like on doing up the ground without getting into any sort of FFP strife. If as you seem to think, they're going to build a new stand elsewhere in Birmingham, then we're probably looking at a minimum of 8-10 years to get that. If they want to knock down Villa Park and start again, depending on how they do it, then probably a minimum of 5 years, with a couple of years of playing elsewhere. To get a stadium much bigger than the 52K the new North would have given us is difficult though because of the Witton Lane housing situation. If they did go down the route of buying up all the houses, whether the residents agreed or were forced to sell, that would extend the process still further.Either way, we're stuck with a 42K seater stadium for the medium term, with most of the facilities not being fit for purpose. But at least the club shop is going to double its footprint I suppose.
Paul is right. He's here to make more money for the club and he's doing it in numbers the club hasn't done before.We're in a ludicrous position of challenging for the title, with the richest non-state backed owners, yet we can't chuck millions at the tilt because we are capped by our piddling income. Heck will and is fixing that.
Apparently Villa felt the round badge isn't in the villa tradition. We are a shield club.Tell that to Dennis Mortimer. There is a growing disconnect isn't there.
Quote from: Villan82 on January 10, 2024, 09:26:38 AMApparently Villa felt the round badge isn't in the villa tradition. We are a shield club.Tell that to Dennis Mortimer. There is a growing disconnect isn't there.Well for most of our history up until the 1950s, we had no badge at all on the kits. Then we had a shield for 20 odd years, followed by the circle for 20 odd years, followed by a shield again for the last 30. It's just that most of us middle aged buggers associate the round badge with the most successful time in living memory. I don't really care about the shape, I just want it to be good. Heck's current idea is the worst by a million miles and it needs to get in the bin.
I do like a scroll underneath a shield as well
I bet loads of the older fans thought the round badge was shit and some kind of affront to our tradition back in the day.I say loads but actually is was probably just a few really and most others didn't give much of a shite and were too busy drinking mild and trying to suss out decimalisation.
Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on January 10, 2024, 10:10:41 AMI do like a scroll underneath a shield as wellIt made it really hard to draw as a kid so I'm naturally averse.
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