Gerrard In or Out?

[Beard82]

It's a bit odd having two Gerrard threads now - this one is clearly pretty defunct until at least October I'd guess.  Is it worth merging or locking one?

Surely if we dont win by 5 goals tomorrow we'll be wanting him out again

[Clive W]

It's a bit odd having two Gerrard threads now - this one is clearly pretty defunct until at least October I'd guess.  Is it worth merging or locking one?

Surely if we dont win by 5 goals tomorrow we'll be wanting him out again

It will have to be a clean sheet
So 7-2 and he will be gone by the morning

[Footy-Vill]

It's a bit odd having two Gerrard threads now - this one is clearly pretty defunct until at least October I'd guess.  Is it worth merging or locking one?

Surely if we dont win by 5 goals tomorrow we'll be wanting him out again

It will have to be a clean sheet
So 7-2 and he will be gone by the morning

We've very unpredictable / inconsistent call it what you will
Conceivably could lose these next two v Liverpool and Palace and show poor performances or we could be displaying some encouraging signs so far too soon to close down the thread maybe at season's end

Against Liverpool away one of the most negative displays which I feel SG set out to make sure didn't get obliterated. And take a honourable 1-0 defeat when no offer of anything at all was shown
I believe no shots on target in the match which was a first for a very long time .No interest in competing that game .
Want to see a different Villa tomorrow one that will attack.

[brontebilly]

Deano's games in charge this season were harder than Gerrard's so it's not a fair comparison.

I thought that too, from memory and gut feel, but Dean's 10 games were against the sides now placed:

12th
13th
19th
6th
16th
3rd
7th
4th
8th
5th

That's an average league position of 9.3. Just 0.7 places harder than 'average' over those 10 games.  Yes, the five-game losing run was tough, given it was against five of the top 8, but if we'd done better in the previous five, I suspect he'd still be here.  Also, Gerrard gets to play the runaway top two twice each in his 28 games (and I suspect he'll lose all four btw).

I’ve been thinking about the recently and I have a suspicion that it was always in the owners long term thinking to install a more high profile manager once we had established ourselves. The poor run of results just gave them the opportunity to implement their plan.

I'm convinced they wanted to get rid first opportunity they had.

He certainly wasn’t their first choice originally. Thank goodness the managerial duo of T.Henry and J.Terry didn’t happen.

That would have been some circus.

[Footy-Vill]

The Smith obsession is weird.

Anyway, much better last two games. I'd still like us to at least give Liverpool/Man City a decent run for their money before committing myself too much, but he's done his cause a lot of good in the last fortnight.

Yeah well we got that with Smith didn't we! 7-2 not again in our life time . Proud to be weird about such an obsession when gave us results, performances of gusto v Liverpool and cup finals against Man City 

[Footy-Vill]

Boring Gerrard after 60 + minutes of play no shot on target and slow build up play.
Think have to note this has happened a few times by Villa under SG yet people don't acknowledge it saying oh I don't see he boring.
Well there's no quality today and very uninspiring .
At least some hope now Ramsey has come on

[Brazilian Villain]

Boring, you say?

[Footy-Vill]

Yes no shots at goal. Slow build up.
Yes end of season but Gerrard does have a cautious pragmatic slant at times.
I certainly not looking forward to the approach next week Man City next Sunday and haven't to break down Burnley on Thursday won't be too much fun potentially
Will be more than pleased when season is over and can bring in required quality for SG system and have a better squad .
Optimism for that just tedious today generally. Good to have taken lead would like to have another and clean sheet.
Main thing is 3pts and will get us up the table.

[Villan82]

So silly, this.

[Risso]

He’s still not coming back, Footy.

[eamonn]

Surely argue the point, not the legacy-shiz.

Gerrard has to find a way of making us more dangerous against teams that are well-drilled. Our home record and performance-levels since he took over is uninspiring.

[ChicagoLion]

Playing both Ings and Watkins ahead of Buendia, causes me to question his judgement.

[Footy-Vill]

He’s still not coming back, Footy.

Must you persist with such drivel.
Deano got a good result today against a top 8 team but I'm only making that point as you pushed me.
Not here to talk about what went before where we made 55pts and 11th place and the solid matches however it's noted the respective records vs top half teams and top 6 teams under Gerry.

I'm all for Gerrard success if he can do the required game management and approach to win matches.
Next season is where we can see how well our progress is with a very hopeful transfer window coming and can have expectation to use his squad and give us a more progressive 90 minute experience on a consistent basis.

I need not mention Smith as there will be comparison it's also separate assessment of SG tenure so I think grossly unfair to keep these suggestions up maybe when season ends can stop saying he's not coming back because insult his good name and my posting

Up the Villa!

[Dante Lavelli]

It's a bit odd having two Gerrard threads now - this one is clearly pretty defunct until at least October I'd guess.  Is it worth merging or locking one?

I agree.  there’s nothing on here that couldn’t be on the other thread.  Plus I don’t think anyone is genuinely calling for him to be sacked.

[Footy-Vill]

I cannot see a discernible improvement from Smith who deserved to go.

Got rid of a perfectly decent Left Back and blew £25m on an average replacement.

Continues to play two strikers that don’t work.

Makes changes too late.

Continually plays the same shit midfield despite blabbing on about making changes.

It's a bit odd having two Gerrard threads now - this one is clearly pretty defunct until at least October I'd guess.  Is it worth merging or locking one?

I agree.  there’s nothing on here that couldn’t be on the other thread.  Plus I don’t think anyone is genuinely calling for him to be sacked.

I'm all for a merger or a temp lock. Gerrard can be given time and will be given time so we can just get behind him over the summer and up to World Cup where we can re examine things if needs be.
But also if you look at the first post and opening of thread there was suggested reason and there are grounds to keep such open because there is still debate that he's just not going to progress us.