Gerrard In or Out?

[IFWaters]

Looking at the table now we have an outside chance of 10th if we can beat palace and Burnley twice. It would be enough for me for him to deserve another full window and a full season to push us into contention for the top NOT SKY 6 AND RUINATION OF ALL THAT IS GOOD team.

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The facts are clear. We have 30 points from Gerrard's 22 games and we had 10 points from Smith's 11 games.

It's not been fantastic but it has been an improvement and it is rather pathetic the way some of our fans are determine to misrepresent how things have gone to further an anti-Gerrard agenda.

No not so clear. We are still languishing in around 15th and there was a period before the last two games where SG delivered 13 points from 15 games and that after adding two world class players to his armour. So our current status is nothing to write hone about.

Our current status is due to Smith. Somebody posted a league table showing we are 9th in the form table since Gerrard took over. An indicator of improvement and what we might see next term, even if he isn't given the chance to significantly improve the squad with a large spend (which we all know he will be given).

There's an irony that those who appear vehemently anti-Gerrard level a criticism at Purslow that he's obsessed with the name, when it appears those who didn't want him, gave him no time and moan even when we take 4 from our last 2 without conceding, are guilty of exactly that.

[Risso]

The facts are clear. We have 30 points from Gerrard's 22 games and we had 10 points from Smith's 11 games.

It's not been fantastic but it has been an improvement and it is rather pathetic the way some of our fans are determine to misrepresent how things have gone to further an anti-Gerrard agenda.

but you write as if its been clear - in Dean's 87 games in charge while we were in the PL, he amassed 100 points or 1.15 ppg. Gerrard has amassed 30 from 22 or 1.36 ppg. So on average, an extra 7 points per season.

The reason some of us dont see it the way you do is that we were told when Dean was sacked that it was because we were not progressing.

If this is what progression looks like, what was the point?   

Because he took over mid-season, and inherited a team that was in complete disarray. The owners are intelligent enough to realise that in those circumstances, any manager in the world that they brought in would need at least one summer transfer window and a pre-season to really put his own stamp on the team. Beat Burnley and we're up to 10th, still with a game in hand.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

It was refreshing to see (finally!) our manager shake things up a little by bringing Tim into the midfield yesterday and dropping our supposed best player at Leicester for Digne's return. Even bringing Chambers back in for Konsa despite him contributing a clean sheet in the previous match was pro-active. He's been threatening to do something like this for ages without quite having the cherries to do it.
Slightly concerning was the tactic to play Coutinho on the left in the 1st half to accommodate Bailey on the right. Coutinho is a player he knows well, yet he played him in a weaker less effective role. Coutinho was far better and more involved when in the centre behind Ings and Watkins in the 2nd half. It's fine attracting players of the calibre of Coutinho, but you have to know what to do with them when you've got them.

[PeterWithe]

Didn’t he always play on the left of the attack for Liverpool?

[AV82EC]

The different formation in the first half a kind of 4-1-4-1 worked pretty well. It’s no surprise McGinn had a better game as he was further up the pitch. It only started coming undone as Bailey got injured and then we had to change to the more usual compact 4-3-3.

What we need to work on is the flow and structure of our play, all the players are guilty of picking the wrong option time and time again. Virtually every outfield player yesterday in a great position to play someone in chose the wrong option,or overhit or underhit the pass.

There’s still that soft underbelly as well Norwich really upped the pace for 10-15 mins in the second half but lacked the quality to lay a glove on us but we looked really sloppy and soft and just couldn’t keep possession.

[N'ZMAV]

The facts are clear. We have 30 points from Gerrard's 22 games and we had 10 points from Smith's 11 games.

It's not been fantastic but it has been an improvement and it is rather pathetic the way some of our fans are determine to misrepresent how things have gone to further an anti-Gerrard agenda.

No not so clear. We are still languishing in around 15th and there was a period before the last two games where SG delivered 13 points from 15 games and that after adding two world class players to his armour. So our current status is nothing to write hone about.

Our current status is due to Smith. Somebody posted a league table showing we are 9th in the form table since Gerrard took over. An indicator of improvement and what we might see next term, even if he isn't given the chance to significantly improve the squad with a large spend (which we all know he will be given).

There's an irony that those who appear vehemently anti-Gerrard level a criticism at Purslow that he's obsessed with the name, when it appears those who didn't want him, gave him no time and moan even when we take 4 from our last 2 without conceding, are guilty of exactly that.

he'll never win some over.

[ASHTONVILLA]

Turned a corner now, two good results on the bounce.

Think we will do far better next season, when we start with a proper pre-season preparation rather than throwing a leaving party for Jack in a park in London.

Looking forwards to seeing 2-3 new players come in, and to more of the youngsters coming into the squad. The highlight of this season has been the emergence of Ramsey, and I can Iroegbunam, Kessler Hayden and Archer featuring more next year as well.

Gerrard already has us picking up 7 points a season more than Smith did, despite all the shortcomings in the squad. Can see us achieving European qualification next season.

He wasn't a name I would have picked when we recruited him, and was surprised we didn't go for more experience. Been pleasantly surprised and like his attitude and straightforwards interviews. Think he will do well eventually.

[Brazilian Villain]

In. https://twitter.com/marshallavfc/status/1520433292562022409 and with some very winnable games left.

Apologist!

Sorry.

Not that I think Gerrard's immune from criticism. Not keen on the way he wears a shirt and tie under his navy crewneck.

[Chico Hamilton III]

In. https://twitter.com/marshallavfc/status/1520433292562022409 and with some very winnable games left.

Apologist!

Sorry.

Not that I think Gerrard's immune from criticism. Not keen on the way he wears a shirt and tie under his navy crewneck.

Apparently he’s “combining sophistication with subtlety”

“……perfectly capturing the personality and style of not only Steven but the city of Liverpool”

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Is that see-through jumper from his own collection? Almost makes me pine for the days when our lads were kitted out in Ciro Citterio

[Steve67]

He looks like he’s wearing a blue T bag.

[olaftab]

he'll never win some over.

Oh he will if he wins the FA cup next season but he won’t if he does nothing more that adequate point collection and plays painfully eye hurting boring football like against Norwich yesterday.

[Clive W]

We are a strange bunch on here.

Before yesterday’s game, the general consensus appeared to be “please, just win Villa”.
Afterwards it was “yes but it was against Norwich. A better team would have beaten us”.
With a run of 4 straight defeats, need must.

The battling point at Leicester put an end to that run but it was only because “they had one eye on Europe. We would have lost otherwise”.

Two games, four points and two clean sheets.

Would we want to watch matches of that quality all season?
Almost certainly not.
Would we be happy if we had gone out all guns blazing and ended up losing six in a row?
Definitely not.

I humbly suggest that sometimes a sense of perspective is in short supply here.

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Somebody was discounting the first 4 wins the other day to criticise him, as they were a part of a bounce.

[john e]

We are a strange bunch on here.

Before yesterday’s game, the general consensus appeared to be “please, just win Villa”.
Afterwards it was “yes but it was against Norwich. A better team would have beaten us”.
With a run of 4 straight defeats, need must.

The battling point at Leicester put an end to that run but it was only because “they had one eye on Europe. We would have lost otherwise”.

Two games, four points and two clean sheets.

Would we want to watch matches of that quality all season?
Almost certainly not.
Would we be happy if we had gone out all guns blazing and ended up losing six in a row?
Definitely not.

I humbly suggest that sometimes a sense of perspective is in short supply here.

You might humbly suggest it
But it’s not gona happen mate