Quote from: chrisw1 on April 27, 2022, 09:45:08 AMQuote from: Drummond on April 26, 2022, 10:34:27 PMI know what you mean, but I think Ings and Buendia understand each other better. And let's face it, neither of our strikers is scoring. Agreed. I'd be playing both of them. Ings is far better at link up play than Watkins, he is a very clever player. We should just back him in a run of games to see if he can find his shooting boots.Edit - I'd also like to try the line up you posted. I think I mentioned the same but with Doug not Tim a while back, but either works for me MartinezCash Konsa Mings Chrisene Iroegbunam Nakamba Buendia Ramsey Coutinho IngsI disagree, nothing I've seen suggests Ings is a clever player. If he doesn't score which is pretty much most games he becomes anonymous.At least when Ollie doesn't score he puts himself about like he did in the Leicester game.
Quote from: Drummond on April 26, 2022, 10:34:27 PMI know what you mean, but I think Ings and Buendia understand each other better. And let's face it, neither of our strikers is scoring. Agreed. I'd be playing both of them. Ings is far better at link up play than Watkins, he is a very clever player. We should just back him in a run of games to see if he can find his shooting boots.Edit - I'd also like to try the line up you posted. I think I mentioned the same but with Doug not Tim a while back, but either works for me MartinezCash Konsa Mings Chrisene Iroegbunam Nakamba Buendia Ramsey Coutinho Ings
I know what you mean, but I think Ings and Buendia understand each other better. And let's face it, neither of our strikers is scoring.
Quote from: Beard82 on April 27, 2022, 07:12:53 PMIt feels like there is a big gamble on getting the players in of the calibre he wants. Its weather those players are better, and if they come to villa.I worry that there wont be many that tick both boxesThis is where scouting comes into play: where is the next undiscovered Kante? What about the next emerging Kane? My fear is that we are only shopping in Harrods whereas we should also be digging around the local curiosity shop as well.We didn't do badly on value for money when we bought McGinn, for example.
It feels like there is a big gamble on getting the players in of the calibre he wants. Its weather those players are better, and if they come to villa.I worry that there wont be many that tick both boxes
Quote from: Pat Mustard on April 27, 2022, 05:12:43 PMRegardless of whether things would work differently once Gerrard has his own personnel, I have to say it worries me that he is completely failing to get a tune out of what we have currently. We've scored 2 goals in our last five games, one of which was a dodgy penalty and the other no more than a 90th minute consolation. Say what you like about certain players shortcomings, that is a shocking return for a team that has the likes of Watkins, Ings, Coutinho, Buendia, Bailey, Traore, Ramsey etc. available.We could and should have won the West Ham game. We had more total shots and shots on target, and Ings missed an absolute sitter. The Arsenal game was dire and we never looked like scoring, but we created loads of chances against Spurs and yet again Watkins and Ings couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo despite having several chances put on a plate for them. I think Gerrard fully deserves his share of the blame for the Arsenal game, as he set us up all wrong, but the Spurs game was mostly on the players.
Regardless of whether things would work differently once Gerrard has his own personnel, I have to say it worries me that he is completely failing to get a tune out of what we have currently. We've scored 2 goals in our last five games, one of which was a dodgy penalty and the other no more than a 90th minute consolation. Say what you like about certain players shortcomings, that is a shocking return for a team that has the likes of Watkins, Ings, Coutinho, Buendia, Bailey, Traore, Ramsey etc. available.
Merely pointing out that despite the results, we have been creating chances. The fact that our strikers aren’t taking easy chances isn’t really the manager’s fault. Once they cross the line, they have to perform.
Quote from: Mister E on April 28, 2022, 07:45:20 AMQuote from: Beard82 on April 27, 2022, 07:12:53 PMIt feels like there is a big gamble on getting the players in of the calibre he wants. Its weather those players are better, and if they come to villa.I worry that there wont be many that tick both boxesThis is where scouting comes into play: where is the next undiscovered Kante? What about the next emerging Kane? My fear is that we are only shopping in Harrods whereas we should also be digging around the local curiosity shop as well.We didn't do badly on value for money when we bought McGinn, for example.We bought them both - Nakamba and Wesley. Unfortunately it didn't quite pan out as it's not that easy.
Quote from: mrfuse on April 27, 2022, 07:39:41 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on April 27, 2022, 09:45:08 AMQuote from: Drummond on April 26, 2022, 10:34:27 PMI know what you mean, but I think Ings and Buendia understand each other better. And let's face it, neither of our strikers is scoring. Agreed. I'd be playing both of them. Ings is far better at link up play than Watkins, he is a very clever player. We should just back him in a run of games to see if he can find his shooting boots.Edit - I'd also like to try the line up you posted. I think I mentioned the same but with Doug not Tim a while back, but either works for me MartinezCash Konsa Mings Chrisene Iroegbunam Nakamba Buendia Ramsey Coutinho IngsI disagree, nothing I've seen suggests Ings is a clever player. If he doesn't score which is pretty much most games he becomes anonymous.At least when Ollie doesn't score he puts himself about like he did in the Leicester game.I can't see how you come to that view if you have watched him regularly. His passing, link up play and movement is mostly excellent. It's his finishing which has let him down this season and given that is normally a strength he is known for I can't help feeling he'll come good with a run of games.
Even with the touch of breeze block Watkins brings more to the table than Ings, we can't get up the pitch when Ings is playing on his jack.
Quote from: Risso on April 28, 2022, 09:20:07 AMMerely pointing out that despite the results, we have been creating chances. The fact that our strikers aren’t taking easy chances isn’t really the manager’s fault. Once they cross the line, they have to perform.We've also been dropping massive clangers in defence, which is just as damaging results0wise and is another thing you can't blame the manager for. You CAN hold Gerrard accountable when the tactics / shape has been wrong - I think you mentioned the Arsenal game earlier in the thread as an example, which I agree with. This league is difficult to get results in. Aside from maybe Norwich, who have themselves still managed 5 wins this season apparently, there are no mugs. Stupid mistakes and missed chances really are result-changers. We haven't drawn enough games either, which is down to the same thing. We have won 11, but only drawn 4 games. Looking at the table, of the other teams who have won 11 games so far this season Newcastle are in 9th (10 draws), Leicester 10th ( 9 draws), Brentford 12th (7 draws).
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