Gerrard In or Out?

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By May 15th, Gerrard will have been manager for 27 games (that’s 70% of the season), and had one transfer window where he was backed by the owners (PC and his wages, Digne, Chambers).

I have seen very little in anything that has happened to suggest one more transfer window will put us back on track under his management. If anything, the individual standards have dropped and the PPG is slightly worse than under Smith (in PL).

The most damning of all is his constant “we will make changes” statements that then turn out to be bullshit. If he feels he can’t because the squad is so poor don’t fucking say it! Else do what you say man and change it up! As many others have said, the brutal reality is that at the moment, about the only thing to admire is the press conferences - after that the cupboard runs bare.

His points per game is better than Smiths.

[Gary Penrice]

In

[curiousorange]

The club seem set to bet the farm on another big overhaul of the squad this summer that the new structure with a DoF was meant to prevent.

What is Lange's role exactly? What does Sporting Director at Villa mean - is it a traditional DoF role or is he, ultimately, just responsible for transfer suggestions & assessments?

No idea on the job spec but I would have thought a more traditional DoF role. Surely should be responsible for ensuring at all levels our teams play a certain way, coaches all buy into it, scouting/recruitment is aligned, manage player contracts etc. Should prevent a situation like what happened us after MON left and minimising the power of the "head coach". Fair enough there might be a certain readjustment needed with a new coach  comes in but there's something definitely amiss currently.

Is anyone following Wolves reasonably closely? Bruno Lage didn't torch the playbook when he took over did he? Worked with existing players improving them and maybe a few odd signings.

I don't watch Wolves closely but I'm given to believe they're a bit more possession based these days than they were under Nuno.

[RamboandBruno]

The club seem set to bet the farm on another big overhaul of the squad this summer that the new structure with a DoF was meant to prevent.

What is Lange's role exactly? What does Sporting Director at Villa mean - is it a traditional DoF role or is he, ultimately, just responsible for transfer suggestions & assessments?

No idea on the job spec but I would have thought a more traditional DoF role. Surely should be responsible for ensuring at all levels our teams play a certain way, coaches all buy into it, scouting/recruitment is aligned, manage player contracts etc. Should prevent a situation like what happened us after MON left and minimising the power of the "head coach". Fair enough there might be a certain readjustment needed with a new coach  comes in but there's something definitely amiss currently.

Is anyone following Wolves reasonably closely? Bruno Lage didn't torch the playbook when he took over did he? Worked with existing players improving them and maybe a few odd signings.

I don't watch Wolves closely but I'm given to believe they're a bit more possession based these days than they were under Nuno.

Also we probably dont like to admit this, but are Coady and Boli worse than Mings and Konsa, is Dendonker worse than Luiz, Neves or McGinn, and semi fit Himinez or Watkins, Podence or Bailey.
Not saying Lage hasnt done well, but maybe we’ve had a propensity to over rate some of our players in comparison to some players of other teams.

[curiousorange]

The club seem set to bet the farm on another big overhaul of the squad this summer that the new structure with a DoF was meant to prevent.

What is Lange's role exactly? What does Sporting Director at Villa mean - is it a traditional DoF role or is he, ultimately, just responsible for transfer suggestions & assessments?

No idea on the job spec but I would have thought a more traditional DoF role. Surely should be responsible for ensuring at all levels our teams play a certain way, coaches all buy into it, scouting/recruitment is aligned, manage player contracts etc. Should prevent a situation like what happened us after MON left and minimising the power of the "head coach". Fair enough there might be a certain readjustment needed with a new coach  comes in but there's something definitely amiss currently.

Is anyone following Wolves reasonably closely? Bruno Lage didn't torch the playbook when he took over did he? Worked with existing players improving them and maybe a few odd signings.

I don't watch Wolves closely but I'm given to believe they're a bit more possession based these days than they were under Nuno.

Also we probably dont like to admit this, but are Coady and Boli worse than Mings and Konsa, is Dendonker worse than Luiz, Neves or McGinn, and semi fit Himinez or Watkins, Podence or Bailey.
Not saying Lage hasnt done well, but maybe we’ve had a propensity to over rate some of our players in comparison to some players of other teams.

I think the linchpin of Wolves' consolidation has been Moutinho. Brilliant player. And much as it pains me, Neves is excellent too. Not as good as Grealish was for us, but much better than anybody we have other than Coutinho.

[Beard82]

The club seem set to bet the farm on another big overhaul of the squad this summer that the new structure with a DoF was meant to prevent.

What is Lange's role exactly? What does Sporting Director at Villa mean - is it a traditional DoF role or is he, ultimately, just responsible for transfer suggestions & assessments?

No idea on the job spec but I would have thought a more traditional DoF role. Surely should be responsible for ensuring at all levels our teams play a certain way, coaches all buy into it, scouting/recruitment is aligned, manage player contracts etc. Should prevent a situation like what happened us after MON left and minimising the power of the "head coach". Fair enough there might be a certain readjustment needed with a new coach  comes in but there's something definitely amiss currently.

Is anyone following Wolves reasonably closely? Bruno Lage didn't torch the playbook when he took over did he? Worked with existing players improving them and maybe a few odd signings.

I don't watch Wolves closely but I'm given to believe they're a bit more possession based these days than they were under Nuno.

Also we probably dont like to admit this, but are Coady and Boli worse than Mings and Konsa, is Dendonker worse than Luiz, Neves or McGinn, and semi fit Himinez or Watkins, Podence or Bailey.
Not saying Lage hasnt done well, but maybe we’ve had a propensity to over rate some of our players in comparison to some players of other teams.

Like you say - there squad is at least good as ares - but probably better balanced.

I feel dirty

[markeeeebeeee2005]

By May 15th, Gerrard will have been manager for 27 games (that’s 70% of the season), and had one transfer window where he was backed by the owners (PC and his wages, Digne, Chambers).

I have seen very little in anything that has happened to suggest one more transfer window will put us back on track under his management. If anything, the individual standards have dropped and the PPG is slightly worse than under Smith (in PL).

The most damning of all is his constant “we will make changes” statements that then turn out to be bullshit. If he feels he can’t because the squad is so poor don’t fucking say it! Else do what you say man and change it up! As many others have said, the brutal reality is that at the moment, about the only thing to admire is the press conferences - after that the cupboard runs bare.

His points per game is better than Smiths.

Over what period are you comparing? And what are the respective figures?

[RamboandBruno]

The club seem set to bet the farm on another big overhaul of the squad this summer that the new structure with a DoF was meant to prevent.

What is Lange's role exactly? What does Sporting Director at Villa mean - is it a traditional DoF role or is he, ultimately, just responsible for transfer suggestions & assessments?

No idea on the job spec but I would have thought a more traditional DoF role. Surely should be responsible for ensuring at all levels our teams play a certain way, coaches all buy into it, scouting/recruitment is aligned, manage player contracts etc. Should prevent a situation like what happened us after MON left and minimising the power of the "head coach". Fair enough there might be a certain readjustment needed with a new coach  comes in but there's something definitely amiss currently.

Is anyone following Wolves reasonably closely? Bruno Lage didn't torch the playbook when he took over did he? Worked with existing players improving them and maybe a few odd signings.

I don't watch Wolves closely but I'm given to believe they're a bit more possession based these days than they were under Nuno.

Also we probably dont like to admit this, but are Coady and Boli worse than Mings and Konsa, is Dendonker worse than Luiz, Neves or McGinn, and semi fit Himinez or Watkins, Podence or Bailey.
Not saying Lage hasnt done well, but maybe we’ve had a propensity to over rate some of our players in comparison to some players of other teams.

Like you say - there squad is at least good as ares - but probably better balanced.

I feel dirty

Indeed, i had a moment of weakness!!

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By May 15th, Gerrard will have been manager for 27 games (that’s 70% of the season), and had one transfer window where he was backed by the owners (PC and his wages, Digne, Chambers).

I have seen very little in anything that has happened to suggest one more transfer window will put us back on track under his management. If anything, the individual standards have dropped and the PPG is slightly worse than under Smith (in PL).

The most damning of all is his constant “we will make changes” statements that then turn out to be bullshit. If he feels he can’t because the squad is so poor don’t fucking say it! Else do what you say man and change it up! As many others have said, the brutal reality is that at the moment, about the only thing to admire is the press conferences - after that the cupboard runs bare.

His points per game is better than Smiths.

Over what period are you comparing? And what are the respective figures?

This season. Under Smith we had relegation form, under Gerrard,  midtable.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

By May 15th, Gerrard will have been manager for 27 games (that’s 70% of the season), and had one transfer window where he was backed by the owners (PC and his wages, Digne, Chambers).

I have seen very little in anything that has happened to suggest one more transfer window will put us back on track under his management. If anything, the individual standards have dropped and the PPG is slightly worse than under Smith (in PL).

The most damning of all is his constant “we will make changes” statements that then turn out to be bullshit. If he feels he can’t because the squad is so poor don’t fucking say it! Else do what you say man and change it up! As many others have said, the brutal reality is that at the moment, about the only thing to admire is the press conferences - after that the cupboard runs bare.

His points per game is better than Smiths.

Over what period are you comparing? And what are the respective figures?

This season. Under Smith we had relegation form, under Gerrard,  midtable.

Smith’s performance this season got him the sack. So that’s not a great benchmark for success. It also looks like Smith has a better points per match overall than Gerrard.

 

[itmustbe_it is!]

This thread and the histrionics within is just embarrassing .

[TelfordVilla]

It wasn't Smiths performances that got him sacked. It was the performances of the players he picked. Some were still unfit due to injury or covid but had to be picked. Smith was trying to integrate Ings into the side but everything he tried failed. Ultimately Smith took the fall for the failings of the players. Is it not Gerrards turn to take the fall if we lose our remaining fixtures?

[markeeeebeeee2005]

It wasn't Smiths performances that got him sacked. It was the performances of the players he picked. Some were still unfit due to injury or covid but had to be picked. Smith was trying to integrate Ings into the side but everything he tried failed. Ultimately Smith took the fall for the failings of the players. Is it not Gerrards turn to take the fall if we lose our remaining fixtures?

Smith did seem to change his approach as well. Weird long throws with Matty Cash running from one side of the pitch to the other and loads of pissing about with the ball amongst the defence. He seemed to have lost his way to a large extent. He deserved the heave ho when he got it. With thanks for the good times of course.

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By May 15th, Gerrard will have been manager for 27 games (that’s 70% of the season), and had one transfer window where he was backed by the owners (PC and his wages, Digne, Chambers).

I have seen very little in anything that has happened to suggest one more transfer window will put us back on track under his management. If anything, the individual standards have dropped and the PPG is slightly worse than under Smith (in PL).

The most damning of all is his constant “we will make changes” statements that then turn out to be bullshit. If he feels he can’t because the squad is so poor don’t fucking say it! Else do what you say man and change it up! As many others have said, the brutal reality is that at the moment, about the only thing to admire is the press conferences - after that the cupboard runs bare.

His points per game is better than Smiths.

Over what period are you comparing? And what are the respective figures?

This season. Under Smith we had relegation form, under Gerrard,  midtable.

Smith’s performance this season got him the sack. So that’s not a great benchmark for success. It also looks like Smith has a better points per match overall than Gerrard.

 

Well he had 3 years and spent a portion in the 2nd division, so, yeah, obviously.

[Nunkin1965]

By May 15th, Gerrard will have been manager for 27 games (that’s 70% of the season), and had one transfer window where he was backed by the owners (PC and his wages, Digne, Chambers).

I have seen very little in anything that has happened to suggest one more transfer window will put us back on track under his management. If anything, the individual standards have dropped and the PPG is slightly worse than under Smith (in PL).

The most damning of all is his constant “we will make changes” statements that then turn out to be bullshit. If he feels he can’t because the squad is so poor don’t fucking say it! Else do what you say man and change it up! As many others have said, the brutal reality is that at the moment, about the only thing to admire is the press conferences - after that the cupboard runs bare.

His points per game is better than Smiths.

Over what period are you comparing? And what are the respective figures?

This season. Under Smith we had relegation form, under Gerrard,  midtable.

Which is a sackable offence for some strangely.