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Author Topic: Gerrard In or Out?  (Read 186038 times)

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #210 on: April 10, 2022, 02:18:57 PM »
We need an appointment that will show we mean business. Put it this way, when Newcastle are next looking for a manager, there won't be any contenders who have won less than St Johnstone on the list.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #211 on: April 10, 2022, 02:23:23 PM »
We need an appointment that will show we mean business. Put it this way, when Newcastle are next looking for a manager, there won't be any contenders who have won less than St Johnstone on the list.

Like Eddie Howe?

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #212 on: April 10, 2022, 02:25:39 PM »
He's not played well since Palace in November and he's been horribly out of form since January 2021. This isn't knee jerk he's just not good enough.

Was superb against United in the cup.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #213 on: April 10, 2022, 02:26:34 PM »
We need an appointment that will show we mean business. Put it this way, when Newcastle are next looking for a manager, there won't be any contenders who have won less than St Johnstone on the list.

Like Eddie Howe?

Exactly the point I was making, it's much more difficult to attract a top manager in the middle of the season. So we should sack Gerrard in May rather than our usual panicky "best available" appointment in October/November.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #214 on: April 10, 2022, 02:32:51 PM »
Today I'm struggling to reconcile my gut instinct that backing Gerrard will be a waste of time and money, with a feeling that if we'd have gone in at half time yesterday level or leading only to eventually lose, we'd probably chalk it up to midtable-rookie manager losing to Top Four-stellar coach.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #215 on: April 10, 2022, 02:33:26 PM »
No, he needs a pre-season and the chance to build his own squad.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #216 on: April 10, 2022, 02:35:46 PM »
He isn't getting the best out of our current squad so has done nothing to earn the job full-time. We will never progress if we keep sacking managers in October/November and making do with second rate candidates. If things don't improve, go get a top class manager in May.

I would say top half and at least one win from the Liverpool/Man City games to end our pathetic run against top eight teams, or he can go.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #217 on: April 10, 2022, 02:39:25 PM »
I don't think he'll go, even if some if us do think it would be an ideal time to bring in a more established coach. Purslow's itching to give him money. Something faintly distasteful when you consider it like that.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #218 on: April 10, 2022, 02:44:37 PM »
I'm struggling to understand how 2 clear chances to our 2 strikers, which would have been Aston Villa 4.
Also the Ramsey effort that a lot of keepers wouldn't have saved, would have been Aston Villa 5.
Then the beauty of a free kick from Phil, again that a lot of keepers wouldn't have saved, would have been Aston Villa 6.
Aston Villa 6 Tottenham Hotspur 1, should have been a half time result; then it would be Gerrard genius, Conte who's he?
Instead it's Gerrard's fault that none of the above happened, but Conte was a genius because his forwards actually managed to bury their chances, with Son alone getting 3 shots and 3 goals.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #219 on: April 10, 2022, 02:48:38 PM »
Watkins was much better last season. Didn't watch many Southampton games last year but assume Ings was, too. Isn't it the manager's job to get the best out of players?
« Last Edit: April 10, 2022, 02:50:24 PM by cdbearsfan »

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #220 on: April 10, 2022, 02:49:39 PM »
No, he needs a pre-season and the chance to build his own squad.

He started building his own squad in Jan. We've since lost 6 out of 9 since then.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #221 on: April 10, 2022, 02:49:43 PM »
I don't think it's so much that Gerrard is to blame for profligacy or brilliant goalkeeping, more that we all expected a better coach to exploit the effort it took to get that close. Being whipped on our own pitch was a particularly bitter twist.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #222 on: April 10, 2022, 02:52:02 PM »
Watkins was much better last season. Didn't watch many Southampton games last year bur assume Ings was, too. Isn't it the manager's job to get the best out of players?

Watkins is a strange one. He really does seem to have a stinker of an attitude this year. Obviously his partnership with Grealish was effective, but he's had a face like a smacked arse since Ings walked in.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #223 on: April 10, 2022, 02:52:22 PM »
I'm struggling to understand how 2 clear chances to our 2 strikers, which would have been Aston Villa 4.
Also the Ramsey effort that a lot of keepers wouldn't have saved, would have been Aston Villa 5.
Then the beauty of a free kick from Phil, again that a lot of keepers wouldn't have saved, would have been Aston Villa 6.
Aston Villa 6 Tottenham Hotspur 1, should have been a half time result; then it would be Gerrard genius, Conte who's he?
Instead it's Gerrard's fault that none of the above happened, but Conte was a genius because his forwards actually managed to bury their chances, with Son alone getting 3 shots and 3 goals.
The result would if have been different if we have taken some of our chances - but I think they would have responded before the 6th went in!


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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #224 on: April 10, 2022, 02:52:58 PM »
Watkins is turning into Gabby. Keeps running into his man, can't striker the ball cleanly, seems to cut in from the left into dead ends. His confidence is shot - probably can't handle Smith being sacked.

 


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