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Author Topic: Gerrard In or Out?  (Read 186003 times)

Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #90 on: April 09, 2022, 09:31:09 PM »
I never wanted him, I think he’s in over his head.

I think we would be roughly here with Smith

Smith improved players and himself - but struggled to learn quite quickly enough.  It was the right thing for him to go - But currently it could easily be argued that he was harshly treated 

Players seem worse under SG

Think his tactics just don’t work and he has had more fit players then Smith and plus had brought in 2 quality players.

Having  said all that - there is a decent chance he could bring some decent players in the summer. 

Personally I am still In unless a really good, proven manager becomes available.  If that happens - I would pack his bags for him

He will get more time - because otherwise I think CP role is close to untenable.

I guess a lot depends on what the owners are thinking.  I wouldn’t be shocked if they take decisive action if they think we’re on the wrong path.

The biggest thing SG can do is win 3 or 4 games out of the remaining ones - that’s achievable.  If we finish 15th that is a really bad look against the narrative of sacking Smith

Personally I don’t, I think we would be right in a relegation fight. We do need to remember Deans end to last season and his start to this.

Online Goldenballs

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #91 on: April 09, 2022, 09:39:17 PM »
I didn't want him and don't think he'll be successful here, but given that he is here I'd give it until the summer to see how we finish this season.

If we carry on being shite, I'd rather spend £50m giving Poch a 5 year contract than let Gerrard spend £100m to rip up the squad.

I hope we don't spend a load of money on 29-30 year old players on big contracts, Martin O'Neil style, and in time look back and wonder what might have been if we'd given that money to a proper manager.

Online LukeJames

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #92 on: April 09, 2022, 09:46:34 PM »
I hope we don't spend a load of money on 29-30 year old players on big contracts, Martin O'Neil style, and in time look back and wonder what might have been if we'd given that money to a proper manager.

Im pretty sure this is what will happen.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #93 on: April 09, 2022, 09:47:16 PM »
I never wanted him, I think he’s in over his head.

I think we would be roughly here with Smith

Smith improved players and himself - but struggled to learn quite quickly enough.  It was the right thing for him to go - But currently it could easily be argued that he was harshly treated 

Players seem worse under SG

Think his tactics just don’t work and he has had more fit players then Smith and plus had brought in 2 quality players.

Having  said all that - there is a decent chance he could bring some decent players in the summer. 

Personally I am still In unless a really good, proven manager becomes available.  If that happens - I would pack his bags for him

He will get more time - because otherwise I think CP role is close to untenable.

I guess a lot depends on what the owners are thinking.  I wouldn’t be shocked if they take decisive action if they think we’re on the wrong path.

The biggest thing SG can do is win 3 or 4 games out of the remaining ones - that’s achievable.  If we finish 15th that is a really bad look against the narrative of sacking Smith

Personally I don’t, I think we would be right in a relegation fight. We do need to remember Deans end to last season and his start to this.
Yeah thats a fair comment - i generally dont think we would be, I think he would have turned it round but clearly its speculation. 

I think we've won 4 in the last 14 games - which is pretty much relegation form.

Offline colin69

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #94 on: April 09, 2022, 09:48:41 PM »
In for now but need to see a big improvement soon.

Offline curiousorange

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #95 on: April 09, 2022, 09:49:44 PM »
I hope we don't spend a load of money on 29-30 year old players on big contracts, Martin O'Neil style, and in time look back and wonder what might have been if we'd given that money to a proper manager.

Im pretty sure this is what will happen.

Even though he's a lot younger, ever since we started being repeatedly linked to Phillips for £60 million, I've had a sinking feeling about Villa's summer.

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #96 on: April 09, 2022, 09:52:26 PM »
Embarrassing.

It is a bit cringey. I categorically did not want him but I wouldn't be calling for his head this early.
This.

If our first half dominance had translated into goals this thread would likely not exist. I'm aware that there's a bit of "If me nan had bollocks she'd have been me grandad" about this but surely now he's in the role we have to give him a proper opportunity. The team performing for only 45 minutes per game was an issue under Dean Smith as well so it's not on Gerrard's head. That said I doubt any team could have kept up the pace of that first half today.

Offline BC Villain

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #97 on: April 09, 2022, 10:05:09 PM »
I hope we don't spend a load of money on 29-30 year old players on big contracts, Martin O'Neil style, and in time look back and wonder what might have been if we'd given that money to a proper manager.

Im pretty sure this is what will happen.

The comments he's made in interviews indicate that's what he plans to do.  In other words he's all but saying he's a cheque book manager.

Newcastle took FIFTEEN games to win a match this season and Leeds have shipped a huge amount of goals all season.  Yet at the moment you'd back both of them to finish above us.  That is damning.

Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #98 on: April 09, 2022, 10:20:03 PM »
I hope we don't spend a load of money on 29-30 year old players on big contracts, Martin O'Neil style, and in time look back and wonder what might have been if we'd given that money to a proper manager.

Im pretty sure this is what will happen.

The comments he's made in interviews indicate that's what he plans to do.  In other words he's all but saying he's a cheque book manager.

Newcastle took FIFTEEN games to win a match this season and Leeds have shipped a huge amount of goals all season.  Yet at the moment you'd back both of them to finish above us.  That is damning.

We will finish above Leeds, but I understand your point

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #99 on: April 10, 2022, 01:39:23 AM »
Don't get me wrong, I'm as gutted to lose the 'only lost by one goal to anyone other than Chelsea' trophy as the next man, but it's still too early to get rid of him.

He's shown very little so far, but he talks a good game. A few wins between now and the end of the season and things look a bit better. If that doesn't happen though, we're allowed to question whether we're sensible to trust him with the company cheque book.

Offline Villan82

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #100 on: April 10, 2022, 06:22:30 AM »
I hope we don't spend a load of money on 29-30 year old players on big contracts, Martin O'Neil style, and in time look back and wonder what might have been if we'd given that money to a proper manager.

Im pretty sure this is what will happen.

The comments he's made in interviews indicate that's what he plans to do.  In other words he's all but saying he's a cheque book manager.

Newcastle took FIFTEEN games to win a match this season and Leeds have shipped a huge amount of goals all season.  Yet at the moment you'd back both of them to finish above us.  That is damning.

Unlike the 2019-2022 incarnation of Aston Villa, Newcastle have this knack of coming away with a point when they don't get the win. Our biggest failing since coming back has been the inability to dig in and get away with a point when it just isn't our day. it has been the thing holding us back.

Offline Lucky Eddie

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #101 on: April 10, 2022, 06:58:00 AM »
I didn't want him and don't think he'll be successful here, but given that he is here I'd give it until the summer to see how we finish this season.

If we carry on being shite, I'd rather spend £50m giving Poch a 5 year contract than let Gerrard spend £100m to rip up the squad.

I hope we don't spend a load of money on 29-30 year old players on big contracts, Martin O'Neil style, and in time look back and wonder what might have been if we'd given that money to a proper manager.

A 'proper manager' like O'Neil?

Online ChicagoLion

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #102 on: April 10, 2022, 07:33:16 AM »
I think it’s too early but there are some very worrying trends appearing.
We are poor in front of goal and easy to score against.
I am prepared to give him some slack because he has inherited the same players that were underperforming for Smith but ultimately it is his job to get the most out of them. I am not sure what he can do when the 2 strikers don’t put the ball away.
The real worry is that at some point our owners will question whether or not it is actually possible to meet their ambitions with Aston Villa.
At the moment I am not sure it is because the gap between where we are and where we want to be looks insurmountable.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #103 on: April 10, 2022, 07:47:12 AM »
He's shown very little so far, but he talks a good game.

I reckon any of us can do that.

Offline Abbeyfealeavfc

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #104 on: April 10, 2022, 07:59:37 AM »
He's shown very little so far, but he talks a good game.

I reckon any of us can do that.

Besides he's not auditioning for a spot on motd.
He's manager of AVFC and needs to demonstrate capability of this through results on the pitch.
Let him get his Sunday football buzz out of the way. Let next season's captainsy take care of itself when the time comes.
From Monday the geezer needs to start focusing on how to seriously take points off Leicester.

 


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