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Author Topic: Gerrard In or Out?  (Read 186123 times)

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2022, 08:55:46 PM »
Still in but at the same time I just don't believe we'll sign the players we need in the summer to have a real proper go.

We actually had a good Jan window and yet we've lost 6 of our last 9 so that shows there are extreme limitations to his system/style of play.

I'm not convinced a good DM on his own solves everything. We were actually really good in midfield today first half but just look at the difference in finishing from the four strikers on the pitch. And baring a miracle we aren't signing anyone on Son's level for final third so just have to hope Archer gets a proper chance and becomes the new Kane I guess.

Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Gerrard Out.
« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2022, 08:57:24 PM »
Oh for f**ks sake. Really. How many more managers will we get through?
Until we find the right one.


But if you only give each one 6 months, it could go on forever.

Yep. This thread is embarrassing. I wasn’t particularly over excited when he got the job and at least part of this was about loving Smith, but its been 5 months ffs!!
He needs the pre season and the whole of next season.

Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #77 on: April 09, 2022, 08:58:17 PM »
Oh for f**ks sake. Really. How many more managers will we get through?

Absolutely this, come on people
Until we find the right one.


But if you only give each one 6 months, it could go on forever.

Yep. This thread is embarrassing. I wasn’t particularly over excited when he got the job and at least part of this was about loving Smith, but its been 5 months ffs!!
He needs the pre season and the whole of next season.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #78 on: April 09, 2022, 09:03:10 PM »
Performances like the one against Leeds or the first half today, goal aside, is why if he brings the players in that he wants, we might just have a place to go. But it's a massive if, and I am concerned that it will be like Ferris Bueller dropping that Ferrari off in the multi-storey.

If I'd have replied to this thread after the fourth goal, I'd have pinned him without a seconds thought.

Offline LukeJames

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #79 on: April 09, 2022, 09:03:49 PM »
Well last summer's transfer window has become a disaster. Lost our best player for ages and bought 4  players who have brought next to nothing to the club.

The whole thing was  a fucking farce. The Grealish training video. Signing a star Bundesliga £30m winger whos step dad then did a Texas Cainsaw Massacre reveal, then getting in a manager that doesn't use wingers. Signing a superb forward without a clue how to use him, sneaking him into VP with a bag over his head and telling his family to shut up so we can dampen the blow of losing our best player. Signing a very good play maker that takes time to settle, when he does finally settle we immediately bench him and give him 10 minute cameos here and there. And dont get me started on Ashley fucking Young who comes on each week to either argue with the opposition or get a yellow card and probably push our star youngster to Dortmund. Purslow and Lange should be on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums.

Offline Beard82

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #80 on: April 09, 2022, 09:05:06 PM »
I never wanted him, I think he’s in over his head.

I think we would be roughly here with Smith

Smith improved players and himself - but struggled to learn quite quickly enough.  It was the right thing for him to go - But currently it could easily be argued that he was harshly treated 

Players seem worse under SG

Think his tactics just don’t work and he has had more fit players then Smith and plus had brought in 2 quality players.

Having  said all that - there is a decent chance he could bring some decent players in the summer. 

Personally I am still In unless a really good, proven manager becomes available.  If that happens - I would pack his bags for him

He will get more time - because otherwise I think CP role is close to untenable.

I guess a lot depends on what the owners are thinking.  I wouldn’t be shocked if they take decisive action if they think we’re on the wrong path.

The biggest thing SG can do is win 3 or 4 games out of the remaining ones - that’s achievable.  If we finish 15th that is a really bad look against the narrative of sacking Smith

Offline nick harper

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #81 on: April 09, 2022, 09:06:03 PM »
Still in but at the same time I just don't believe we'll sign the players we need in the summer to have a real proper go.

We actually had a good Jan window and yet we've lost 6 of our last 9 so that shows there are extreme limitations to his system/style of play.

I'm not convinced a good DM on his own solves everything. We were actually really good in midfield today first half but just look at the difference in finishing from the four strikers on the pitch. And baring a miracle we aren't signing anyone on Son's level for final third so just have to hope Archer gets a proper chance and becomes the new Kane I guess.

They defended much better than we did. Mings is just not good enough and Konsa should not have been an automatic pick after his suspension. We are just a poor side out of possession better sides keep punishing us.

The one certainty next game is that Nakamba will be back.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #82 on: April 09, 2022, 09:10:00 PM »
Personally I can't see him being here in the New Year, but I can also see why he wouldn't necessarily be under pressure until he's had a window of his own. I just think if there's money to be spent on the team, I'm willing to consider some of it going to a bloody good coach and giving him the rest of it to bump us up into the top 8. I suppose I'm undecided, but it's not because I think it would be bad form to sack a manager after six months. That happens all the time.

Offline Villan82

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #83 on: April 09, 2022, 09:12:08 PM »
We've lost more than half our games this season. What happens if the wins dry up next season?

I can't imagine NSWE are impressed with how things have gone since Christmas 2020. I am just so down tonight.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #84 on: April 09, 2022, 09:15:24 PM »
Was way too early for this thread. I thought three years in the championship would have realigned peoples expectations but obviously not. We seem to be back to being every inch the spoilt brats rival fans accuse us of being.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #85 on: April 09, 2022, 09:17:00 PM »
His signings so far are significant improvements so I’m quite excited for the summer as he will be backed. Pressure will be on him then and rightly so but surely not now. Calls for him to go now are absolute madness.

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #86 on: April 09, 2022, 09:18:18 PM »
I'll give him to the end of the season to assess.  We could finish anywhere between 17th and 9th.



That said, I'm still "Gerrard in", but not massively impressed so far (Although the January transfer window was excellent).

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #87 on: April 09, 2022, 09:18:55 PM »
We've lost more than half our games this season. What happens if the wins dry up next season?

I can't imagine NSWE are impressed with how things have gone since Christmas 2020. I am just so down tonight.

It’s not good, but it doesn’t mean you sack the manager before he’s had a reasonable amount of time. He needs to shape the squad more and have a pre-season.

Offline Villan82

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #88 on: April 09, 2022, 09:19:10 PM »
Was way too early for this thread. I thought three years in the championship would have realigned peoples expectations but obviously not. We seem to be back to being every inch the spoilt brats rival fans accuse us of being.

I am delighted to be in the premier league and to be in better shape overall than we have been in a  long-time. Is it too much for me to ask that we set up to be hard to beat because losing 21 games, 15 and now (so far, 17) games in a 38 game season isn't very nice.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2022, 09:20:54 PM by Villan82 »

Offline Villan82

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Re: Gerrard In or Out?
« Reply #89 on: April 09, 2022, 09:20:23 PM »
We've lost more than half our games this season. What happens if the wins dry up next season?

I can't imagine NSWE are impressed with how things have gone since Christmas 2020. I am just so down tonight.

It’s not good, but it doesn’t mean you sack the manager before he’s had a reasonable amount of time. He needs to shape the squad more and have a pre-season.

For clarity, I am 'in'. He steadied us after a rotten start. I am just disappointed he hasn't made us more solid as a team.

 


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