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Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #420 on: June 07, 2022, 10:16:39 PM »
It’s not either/or is it. It should be both.

It should be, but as I've said before my concern is that we've chucked away one in the rush to go for the other.

Boubacar would suggest that isn’t the case though.

That's one player.
I think if we have two or three young players in the first team, along with five or six players in their peak years and couple of slightly older heads (late twenties/early 30s), that seems a very good balance to me. And it seems at the moment with Kamara, Ramsey and to a lesser extent Cash on the younger side, Mcginn, Martinez, Digne, Carlos, Beumdis and Watkins at their peak ages and Coutinhioand Mings a bit older, it looks like we have that good mix. Add Youngsters as back up like Tim, Cam and younger Ramsey, things look positive.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #421 on: June 08, 2022, 11:35:01 PM »
Well , they got me .

Was completely against renewing out of principal after the Zone changes + increases but as deadline day approached I gave in and you will all be pleased to know I've renewed.

Now to cut back on other non essential subscriptions and 'treats' to cover it

I expect better than 14th , that's for sure

I hope you reflect on it being a great decision this time next year Mr Flinstone.
A lot belt tightening going on all round I think. Where do you sit?

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #422 on: June 08, 2022, 11:48:24 PM »
Well , they got me .

Was completely against renewing out of principal after the Zone changes + increases but as deadline day approached I gave in and you will all be pleased to know I've renewed.

Now to cut back on other non essential subscriptions and 'treats' to cover it

I expect better than 14th , that's for sure

I hope you reflect on it being a great decision this time next year Mr Flinstone.
A lot belt tightening going on all round I think. Where do you sit?

On his own.

Offline Flin5tone

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #423 on: June 09, 2022, 08:47:00 AM »
Well , they got me .

Was completely against renewing out of principal after the Zone changes + increases but as deadline day approached I gave in and you will all be pleased to know I've renewed.

Now to cut back on other non essential subscriptions and 'treats' to cover it

I expect better than 14th , that's for sure

I hope you reflect on it being a great decision this time next year Mr Flinstone.
A lot belt tightening going on all round I think. Where do you sit?

Holte End upper K3 , towards the front

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #424 on: June 09, 2022, 08:59:42 AM »
So you're already Zone 2 and your Zone hasn't changed?

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #425 on: June 09, 2022, 09:32:04 AM »
It's increased in price by around £80, I just didn't like how the club went about scrapping Zone 6 and slapping those in the cheapest seats with a £200 increase. Not a good look , at all.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #426 on: June 09, 2022, 09:51:18 AM »
I don't think it's the amount we're spending but rather that we're spending it on 'now' players rather than on future prospects. With the exception of Kamara, all Gerrard's signings are of an age where you shouldn't expect them to greatly improve. 

Given that managers usually last a couple of seasons before getting sacked, why should Gerrard care about our youth set up? Why should he worry about developing a youth policy that will only benefit his successor? He needs his results now so wants players who will slot straight in to the first team. It’s complete short-termism but that’s how it goes nowadays.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #427 on: June 09, 2022, 10:13:39 AM »
It's increased in price by around £80, I just didn't like how the club went about scrapping Zone 6 and slapping those in the cheapest seats with a £200 increase. Not a good look , at all.

That's me, but I'm not fucking moaning about it every day so why are you?

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #428 on: June 09, 2022, 10:26:24 AM »
Well , they got me .

Was completely against renewing out of principal after the Zone changes + increases but as deadline day approached I gave in and you will all be pleased to know I've renewed.

Now to cut back on other non essential subscriptions and 'treats' to cover it

I expect better than 14th , that's for sure

I hope you reflect on it being a great decision this time next year Mr Flinstone.
A lot belt tightening going on all round I think. Where do you sit?

Holte End upper K3 , towards the front

Phew.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #429 on: June 09, 2022, 10:29:26 AM »
I don't think it's the amount we're spending but rather that we're spending it on 'now' players rather than on future prospects. With the exception of Kamara, all Gerrard's signings are of an age where you shouldn't expect them to greatly improve. 

Given that managers usually last a couple of seasons before getting sacked, why should Gerrard care about our youth set up? Why should he worry about developing a youth policy that will only benefit his successor? He needs his results now so wants players who will slot straight in to the first team. It’s complete short-termism but that’s how it goes nowadays.

Exactly. It's all about the manager.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #430 on: June 09, 2022, 11:09:28 AM »
And that's what is wrong with this current appointment. With Smith it was about the Club not the manager.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #431 on: June 09, 2022, 11:19:18 AM »
Do we know how many haven't renewed yet ?

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #432 on: June 09, 2022, 11:22:48 AM »
And that's what is wrong with this current appointment. With Smith it was about the Club not the manager.

What an absolute load of nonsense. The club are clearly continuing with the plan to buy and develop lots of very good young players. Under Gerrard, we've just signed one of the most highly rated 22 year olds in Europe. He also gave Chukwuemeka game time in 11 of his 27 league matches in charge, compared to 1 in 11 for Smith. Ramsey was a nailed on starter, Iroegbunam was given his debut, and Feeney and Chrisene were part of several match day squads. But yeah, Dean Smith.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #433 on: June 09, 2022, 11:27:38 AM »
 
And that's what is wrong with this current appointment. With Smith it was about the Club not the manager.

What an absolute load of nonsense. The club are clearly continuing with the plan to buy and develop lots of very good young players. Under Gerrard, we've just signed one of the most highly rated 22 year olds in Europe. He also gave Chukwuemeka game time in 11 of his 27 league matches in charge, compared to 1 in 11 for Smith. Ramsey was a nailed on starter, Iroegbunam was given his debut, and Feeney and Chrisene were part of several match day squads. But yeah, Dean Smith.

It's not necessarily about the previous manager. For me it's about how a system whch had been hailed as the way forward, and which had worked pretty well since it was first implemented, has been chucked over seemingly for the benefit of Steven Gerrard.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #434 on: June 09, 2022, 11:33:36 AM »
It's one way of looking at it, and I too wonder how the grand plan looks now.

But another way of looking at it is that for the first time in a long time we're signing players for now, not some mythical utopian period in the future, and finally we have a manager with the cache to push for, and to make it happen.

 


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