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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #120 on: April 11, 2022, 04:34:09 PM »
I am sure the waiting list is real but I doubt it's 22,000 now, even before price increases. Some people will have gone on the list one or two years ago, perhaps longer, and may have changed their minds by now.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #121 on: April 11, 2022, 05:17:40 PM »
One of the reasons nobody hits 100% capacity is because that capacity also includes away supporters, who may also not always sell out.


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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #122 on: April 11, 2022, 05:26:33 PM »
I am sure the waiting list is real but I doubt it's 22,000 now, even before price increases. Some people will have gone on the list one or two years ago, perhaps longer, and may have changed their minds by now.


I doubt many, if at all any, will have gone down what is most likely an infuriating and tortuous path of attempting to remove themselves from something on the Villa ticketing website! There probably are 22,000 on the list, but yeah, the number that would take up an offer of one right now won't be that big.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #123 on: April 11, 2022, 06:04:33 PM »
I paid £483, just checked. What tier is that, please?

2021-22 Prices




Thanks. I'm looking at a £150 increase, then. Not good. Do I really need two kidneys?

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #124 on: April 11, 2022, 06:37:38 PM »
Why didn't the two fixtures in December sell out then? If there's 22,000 desperate for a slice of the action. Surely once tickets become available they'd snap them up with delight....
It's a made up list with about 30-50% who have genuine interest.

I can't see how anyone can find pricing out the regular loyal fans as progress. We're a few points off the lower end of the table.

Let's see how you all react in a few weeks when we're hovering above the relegation zone . Let's see if Mr Purslow is so smug about the waiting list then.

We've regressed not progressed this season

How about the fact that many of them might be kids who don’t come to night games? ....or families in general with lots of commitments at Christmas? How about lots being people like me that live over a hundred miles away & find night games difficult but still have a season ticket?

Not being able to make a couple of awkward games doesn’t rule you out from being a potential season ticket holder.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #125 on: April 11, 2022, 07:13:40 PM »
If there's a genuine 22,000 on the list those are snapped up.

The fact is there isn't ,50% at tops. Then factor into the price rises and performances some of those will drop off.  Large chunk of it were probably sign ups because of Jack Grealish , over excited kids and so on, who will never get round to removing themselves from the list.

It sounds good though and makes out there is a huge demand , which I do understand from the club but just don't punish those loyal fans on the lowest incomes .

Absolute Disgrace

Anyway I think they will hold back to see where we  finish in the league. They will have expected AT THE VERY LEAST top half so they might have a rethink when we're closer to the drop than the conference league

« Last Edit: April 11, 2022, 07:17:15 PM by Flin5tone »

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #126 on: April 11, 2022, 07:29:30 PM »
I agree there wont be 22k people ready willing and able to buy a season ticket right now - there will be people who have gone on 'just in case' etc, but there will be more than enough to mop up any that aren't renewed in the next couple of seasons.

As for prices, I reckon even after the balancing (which obviously comes hard for those effected most) we will still have some of the cheapest tickets in the PL.  The seats aren't means tested, so expecting one Zone to subsidise others isn't necessarily fair or reasonable.  I'm sure people all round the ground will be making difficult decisions come renewal time.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #127 on: April 11, 2022, 07:33:27 PM »
I paid £483, just checked. What tier is that, please?

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Thanks. I'm looking at a £150 increase, then. Not good. Do I really need two kidneys?
Are you sure your Zone is moving up one?  It hasn't been announced yet exactly which Zone are changing has it?

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #128 on: April 11, 2022, 07:39:08 PM »
I paid £483, just checked. What tier is that, please?

2021-22 Prices




Thanks. I'm looking at a £150 increase, then. Not good. Do I really need two[/
increase of 35 pounds, happy with that

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #129 on: April 11, 2022, 07:47:10 PM »
I paid £483, just checked. What tier is that, please?

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Thanks. I'm looking at a £150 increase, then. Not good. Do I really need two kidneys?
Are you sure your Zone is moving up one?  It hasn't been announced yet exactly which Zone are changing has it?

According to speculation it was zone four and below, I think. Hopefully not. If so, we'll the zone 3 and below will be even harder hit so I shouldn't feel too sorry for myself, I suppose.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #130 on: April 11, 2022, 07:47:12 PM »
The only things that should concern you when renewing is whether you can afford it and whether you have the time to go with your family comitment.

Results and value for money never come into it.

For you perhaps. But for many as prices go up, the value they get from it may well be affected. As an example, if a ticket is £500, you could argue that's acceptable for a mid-table team. Put the price up to £1000, then what's the value in that if it means fewer nights out with friends, or less activities for the kids?

It's your sort of view that allows clubs to charge what they want for that blind loyalty.

My view of if you can afford it and it isn't going to impinge on family comitment? If it goes up by £500, which it's not, then its a question of is that affordable and for many, the answer is no.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #131 on: April 11, 2022, 08:32:31 PM »
I paid £483, just checked. What tier is that, please?

2021-22 Prices




Thanks. I'm looking at a £150 increase, then. Not good. Do I really need two kidneys?

Yep, im in L2, with my 15 year old and 12 year old, it zone 4 goes thats £136 rise by my estimation, thats going to be difficult with everything else going up. A 10% rose on all zones including 4 would be more manageable. We’ll see i suppose

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #132 on: April 11, 2022, 08:38:05 PM »
I paid £483, just checked. What tier is that, please?

2021-22 Prices




Thanks. I'm looking at a £150 increase, then. Not good. Do I really need two kidneys?

Yep, im in L2, with my 15 year old and 12 year old, it zone 4 goes thats £136 rise by my estimation, thats going to be difficult with everything else going up. A 10% rose on all zones including 4 would be more manageable. We’ll see i suppose

I thought it was said that Zone 6 would go up to the price of Zone 4 ie the very outer wings coming up to match the slightly inner wings.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #133 on: April 11, 2022, 08:43:50 PM »

https://twitter.com/villa_trust/status/1513587297966559232?s=21&t=SL2HnT8929nc3LeQZ36Vyg

Minutes from the Fans Consultation Group Meeting

Following on from the updates from the FCG meeting with Christian Purslow on April 7, here is an overview of the matters covered. In particular season ticket pricing, Villa Park expansion and on-pitch performance.

Fan Representatives

Mo Razzaq & Karl Bowater, AVST; Dave Woodhall, Heroes & Villans; David Michael, My Old Man Said; Harjit Badesha, Punjabi Villans; John Gillett, Lions Clubs; Scott Jones, Villa Talk; Nick Sanders, avillafan.com; Sam Timms & Sarah Breslin, Villa & Proud; Steve Gough, AV Independent Supporters Clubs; Aaron Jones, Aston Villa Disabled Supporters Association

Apologies: Jonathan Fear, Vital Villa; Nilesh Chauhan, Villans Together

Club Representatives

Christian Purslow, Chief Executive Officer; Paul Tyrell, Chief Corporate Affairs Officer; Nicola Ibbetson, Chief Commercial Officer; Lee Preece, Supporters’ Liaison Manager; Tommy Jordan, Communications Director; Lynne O’Reardon, Head of Ticketing Operations; Adam Lowe, Head of Marketing

 

For tonight’s FCG, the club had several items that we wished to update on and discuss with Fan Reps accordingly.  Fan questions or comments raised during the discussions are shown in italics.

 

1 Premier League (PL) Update

An update was provided to Fan Reps regarding issues on the horizon for PL Clubs and to ensure fans that the club is fully engaged and contributing to the discussion on football governance.

Mr Purslow discussed UEFA’s announcement regarding changes to FFP regulations (moving within a 3-year period that clubs can only spend 70% of their turnover on wages and transfers).  These rules only apply to those clubs who qualify for UEFA competition.  The concerns over this new system for the wider football community were discussed.

Will the Premier League adopt the same 70% rule?

Answer Any change in PL regulations would require the agreement of 14 clubs.

The second item related to the Fan Led Review, and an update for the group that football authorities are in a consultation phase with Government and relevant authorities regarding what elements should be adopted.  It is clear the attempted European Super League breakaway has changed the political landscape of football and matters such as independent regulation and financial support for the League pyramid are very much part of the discussions.

 

2 COVID Update

PL Covid protocols have now moved to symptomatic testing only for players, an indication that we are moving back to normality.

The club appreciated the help and support of fans complying with Covid protocol requirements when fans were allowed to return.

 

3 Season Ticket Pricing

The Board recently asked Nicola Ibbetson’s Commercial team to conduct a strategic review of ticketing at Villa Park over the last ten years.  The catalyst for the request was the significant impact COVID has had on Season Ticket and all matchday revenue over two seasons.

A report was presented to the Board and although the report is confidential, substantial details of it were presented to the Fan Reps to aid discussion and questions.

Even prior to reviewing the report, it was accepted by some FCG reps that Season Ticket prices were low compared to other PL clubs and that they represented good value for money.

The report showed that our current pricing:

was easily amongst the cheapest in the PL for both match & season tickets
has traditionally tracked below the rate of inflation
was complicated with the stadium split in to six price zones
offered concession reductions for Over 65, Under 21 and Junior tickets of up to 80% of the full price
Whilst TV revenue and league position remain the most significant revenue streams, the club stated it must grow all revenues to be competitive.

The club presented broad proposals, based on three key principles.  Pricing should be simple (easy to understand), fair (representing value for money) and reasonable (compared to the clubs we are competing against in the PL).

It believed that prices should be increased across the entire Season Ticket range and there would likely be other increases in specific categories due to the simplification of price categories and the realignment of concession percentages.

The club stressed that while no final decision has been made on the precise level of increases, it welcomed the input and views of FCG Reps.

A general discussion was then held on the subject and specific questions were asked which included:

Will there be options for Direct Debit / spreading payments?

We are currently speaking with our finance providers.

Do we know if the number of fans on the waiting list for season tickets will reduce if we increase prices?

We have no way of knowing but this is a possibility.

When the club decide to change price categories for certain areas can the quality of the facilities / catering in those stands be taken in to account?

Yes – this will be considered.

Can the classification of what constitutes a restricted view be reviewed?

We are happy to receive the coordinates of any seat to review the restricted or clear view categorisation.

Following the discussion, Mr Purslow said the club would take the feedback received from the FCG and further consider options.

It was agreed that any communications on ticket price increases will be transparent.

 

4 On-pitch performance

Steven Gerrard and his team have settled into a different club, community and training ground environment very well.  We are well underway for our plans for 22/23.

At Academy level, the relationship between Steven and Mark Harrison is providing a clear pathway for young footballers.  Our loan programme is seeing players getting good minutes.  A clear indication of progress could be seen during the last international window, with the club having the 4th highest number of under 21’s away on international duty with their respective countries.

The Women’s team have gone through radical changes this year, seeing the introduction of Carla Ward.  We are seeing progress in the number of points achieved and becoming much harder to beat.  There is continued support from the Men’s operation for the squad and staff.  Jill Scott has been a welcome addition to the squad offering advice from her vast experience within the game.

 

5 Developing Villa Park

As well as a fan engagement survey on stadium developments with the wider fanbase which we will be launching shortly, the club will arrange a specific FCG meeting to consult on plans in more detail.  The FCG were introduced to reps from Liquid PR who will be leading the consultation & communication process.

The club have put together a top-class development team of design consultants, architects etc who have been working for the last few months on the project.

 

Preliminary plans, a preliminary timetable and a programme for applying for planning permission have been created.

The first phase has three key elements:

a new North Stand
refurb of all Trinity Road Stand hospitality facilities
a multi-purpose fan zone on the area behind the North Stand
Any development will be sympathetic to our history and heritage, celebrating everything that makes our club great.

We are working with our regional partners to ensure that the development is a catalyst for change in the B6 area, creating a destination venue that supports the whole community and ensuring Villa Park has the facilities to target a 365-day business model.

We are acutely aware of the transport issues.  Birmingham needs to have a stadium of at least 50,000 (with appropriate transport structures and facilities in place) for the city to participate in Euro 2028 (if the Football Association is successful with a bid).  The Club have welcomed all the cooperation received from both local and national stakeholders in our discussions so far.

Formal consultation will be launched in the weeks ahead where we will be asking all our fans and our wider community to share their views.

Do the plans include areas for safe standing?

We are monitoring all the current safe standing trials in this country and gathering information from the safe standing models adopted across European football. The North Stand development will not include safe standing, however, we are looking to potentially develop safe standing options in other areas of the stadium.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2022/23
« Reply #134 on: April 11, 2022, 09:55:14 PM »
I paid £483, just checked. What tier is that, please?

2021-22 Prices




Thanks. I'm looking at a £150 increase, then. Not good. Do I really need two kidneys?
Are you sure your Zone is moving up one?  It hasn't been announced yet exactly which Zone are changing has it?

My thought is that it’s 10% for zones 1-4. Zones 5 and 6 will become zone 4, so they will have the bigger increase.
I’m zone 6, so mine will increase by £150.
Those in zone 5 will be about £100

 


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