Summer 2022 Transfer Thread

[ozzjim]

Winksy at the back post ready to give our midfield that steel.

[eamonn]

I'm not fussed about Sanson. I'm fussed about the gap he leaves in the squad.

He has not been in any match day squads this season so he currently leaves no gap at all in the squad.

[ozzjim]

But...the sane argument is that having played with Kamara at Marseille, he's surely worth a run out alongside him here with McGinn in such wretched form. Selling him only further relies on captain fantastic to find consistency he's never had in the prem.

[LeonW]

But...the sane argument is that having played with Kamara at Marseille, he's surely worth a run out alongside him here with McGinn in such wretched form. Selling him only further relies on captain fantastic to find consistency he's never had in the prem.

Agreed. Plus, I don't like this whole 'bomb squad' thing. You never know when you might need one of the players and it just reduces the value of them when selling.

[curiousorange]

I'm not fussed about Sanson. I'm fussed about the gap he leaves in the squad.

He has not been in any match day squads this season so he currently leaves no gap at all in the squad.

Currently being the key word there.

[Flin5tone]

Something isn't right at the club (as usual) this window is turning out to be one of the worst ever

[Rory]

But...the sane argument is that having played with Kamara at Marseille, he's surely worth a run out alongside him here with McGinn in such wretched form. Selling him only further relies on captain fantastic to find consistency he's never had in the prem.

Agreed. Plus, I don't like this whole 'bomb squad' thing. You never know when you might need one of the players and it just reduces the value of them when selling.

I know nothing about the current squad situation, but I agree, the bomb squad belongs in the past (...with McCormack). Unless they're a total cvnt (...like McCormack) these players are multi-million pound assets, and not fancying one of them isn't reason to bomb them out.

It's part of a manager's job to work out a player's psychology, get the best out of them, work on identifying a move if they're not in your plans, and try to maintain their market value as far as possible.

Outside of the odd extreme case (...like McCormack) every fit player should be available and motivated to play when they are needed. Their professional pride and desire to further their career should be enough for that.

Not blaming Gerrard, not saying there even is a 'bomb squad', but if such a thing exists it would be an infuriating example of mismanagement.

[Rory]

Something isn't right at the club (as usual) this window is turning out to be one of the worst ever

It's not, mate, come on. It's not been what we've wanted but we've had plenty worse.

[curiousorange]

I can't imagine Gerrard putting an arm around a player to lead them through a rough patch. I can imagine he was demanding as a captain, and that's great if you're on side, but I'd contrast that with the work John Terry did while at Villa, where he seemed to command respect but also act as a key link between squad and manager. There seem to be a lot of troubles around that training ground and I can't picture a harmonious working environment there at all.

[SoccerHQ]

I'm not fussed about Sanson. I'm fussed about the gap he leaves in the squad.

He has not been in any match day squads this season so he currently leaves no gap at all in the squad.

He should be on the bench. Said it elsewhere just now but Tim and Nakamba on the bench can only really play as a six so unless Kamara gets injured they aren't coming on given we tend to be losing plenty of times in a game these days.

[Rory]

I can't imagine Gerrard putting an arm around a player to lead them through a rough patch. I can imagine he was demanding as a captain, and that's great if you're on side, but I'd contrast that with the work John Terry did while at Villa, where he seemed to command respect but also act as a key link between squad and manager. There seem to be a lot of troubles around that training ground and I can't picture a harmonious working environment there at all.

Yeah, I think the kindest way I can put it is I imagine him being a meritocratic manager. He'll put an arm around players who are doing well. If you're not doing well, that's your fucking problem - and not only that, but if you've dropped a bollock, you've let him down and made him look a fool for having faith in you.

(Purely speculation, of course.)

[eamonn]

I'm not fussed about Sanson. I'm fussed about the gap he leaves in the squad.

He has not been in any match day squads this season so he currently leaves no gap at all in the squad.

He should be on the bench. Said it elsewhere just now but Tim and Nakamba on the bench can only really play as a six so unless Kamara gets injured they aren't coming on given we tend to be losing plenty of times in a game these days.

I fully agree. I've been one of Sanson's main advocates on here. He seems to feature heavily in the training videos on Pravda, we played better in pre-season when he was on the pitch and John Percy yesterday claimed that teammates can't understand his non-involvement while Gerrard said he's been a top professional and trained well. But despite all that, he has no interest in playing him, or even having him as a bench option in a League Cup game in an era where we name 9 subs.

Taking all the above into consideration, there is no point in him being here and I imagine he will move to France or Turkey in the next 48 hours, on-loan, not because he might have a future here but due to his presumably PL top six squad player level-wages.

[richtheholtender]

Figured i'd put this here as just saw it. It's from the ESPN FC show.

Only just seen this. It's an eye opener but I'm still not buying it. My point has been in relation to the current owners v their expectations, so going back 10 years and two previous owners isn't really a marker of what they're doing. I mean. In Tony Xias first year I think we spent net £40 million, so that's 10% of the total value from an owner we all detested in the end and while we were in the championship. The brass tax of it is, that since we finished 17th in our first year back (more up to date data) we've averaged a net spend of £30 million in the subsequent years. That just doesn't cut it for me against what they are saying they want, especially when with each passing year that opportunity gets smaller and smaller.

[Percy McCarthy]

I can't imagine Gerrard putting an arm around a player to lead them through a rough patch. I can imagine he was demanding as a captain, and that's great if you're on side, but I'd contrast that with the work John Terry did while at Villa, where he seemed to command respect but also act as a key link between squad and manager. There seem to be a lot of troubles around that training ground and I can't picture a harmonious working environment there at all.

Yeah, I think the kindest way I can put it is I imagine him being a meritocratic manager. He'll put an arm around players who are doing well. If you're not doing well, that's your fucking problem - and not only that, but if you've dropped a bollock, you've let him down and made him look a fool for having faith in you.

(Purely speculation, of course.)

Doesn’t really tie-in with his contrasting treatment of in-form Mings and the terrible McGinn.

[Rory]

Figured i'd put this here as just saw it. It's from the ESPN FC show.

Only just seen this. It's an eye opener but I'm still not buying it. My point has been in relation to the current owners v their expectations, so going back 10 years and two previous owners isn't really a marker of what they're doing. I mean. In Tony Xias first year I think we spent net £40 million, so that's 10% of the total value from an owner we all detested in the end and while we were in the championship. The brass tax of it is, that since we finished 17th in our first year back (more up to date data) we've averaged a net spend of £30 million in the subsequent years. That just doesn't cut it for me against what they are saying they want, especially when with each passing year that opportunity gets smaller and smaller.

I am open-minded to your arguments, in spite of your agenda against the owners, but net spend is surely skewed by us receiving the sixth largest transfer fee in history in that time?