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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5610 on: August 30, 2022, 06:29:17 PM »
Dawson seems a sensible stop gap to be fair. But think there will be a few in for him.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5611 on: August 30, 2022, 06:36:00 PM »
If fans want him out, what's the problem? It's a forum with differing opinions.


Agreed. Did I put something wrong? Did I personally insult him or ridicule his opinion?

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5612 on: August 30, 2022, 06:36:33 PM »
It would be fucking mental to keep a manager in role AND not back him. If they’ve lost faith they have to sack him, but to keep someone on and not strengthen the squad would be a fucking terrible idea. Also transfers shouldn’t just be dictated by the manager, so this idea of holding money back is actively damaging.


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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5613 on: August 30, 2022, 06:52:14 PM »
It would be fucking mental to keep a manager in role AND not back him. If they’ve lost faith they have to sack him, but to keep someone on and not strengthen the squad would be a fucking terrible idea. Also transfers shouldn’t just be dictated by the manager, so this idea of holding money back is actively damaging.


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It depends on their criteria for giving him the boot. He may be a loss, or two away from the sack.
Who would sanction a club record transfer in that sitiuation?

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5614 on: August 30, 2022, 06:55:23 PM »
It would be fucking mental to keep a manager in role AND not back him. If they’ve lost faith they have to sack him, but to keep someone on and not strengthen the squad would be a fucking terrible idea. Also transfers shouldn’t just be dictated by the manager, so this idea of holding money back is actively damaging.

Well said, Paul. As we've often seen, teams can struggle early season then something just clicks and they never look back. Admittedly it never happens with us but almost every season you'll see a team that can't buy a win suddenly race up the table.

Add to that the draining of confidence if we fail to address the problems until January or whenever a new manager is appointed. It's self harm. I'd rather we recruit a new coach and players from a position of strength than needing somebody to dig us out of a hole.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5615 on: August 30, 2022, 07:07:38 PM »
It would be fucking mental to keep a manager in role AND not back him. If they’ve lost faith they have to sack him, but to keep someone on and not strengthen the squad would be a fucking terrible idea. Also transfers shouldn’t just be dictated by the manager, so this idea of holding money back is actively damaging.


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It depends on their criteria for giving him the boot. He may be a loss, or two away from the sack.
Who would sanction a club record transfer in that sitiuation?

Again - transfer strategy shouldn’t just be determined by the manager. In any case if they’re at the point of thinking “you’ve got a game or two to prove yourself” then he should be gone, because they’ve lost faith.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5616 on: August 30, 2022, 07:24:12 PM »
Wolves have offered Dawson a 3 year deal so that’s another one off the list

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5617 on: August 30, 2022, 07:29:14 PM »
It would be fucking mental to keep a manager in role AND not back him. If they’ve lost faith they have to sack him, but to keep someone on and not strengthen the squad would be a fucking terrible idea. Also transfers shouldn’t just be dictated by the manager, so this idea of holding money back is actively damaging.


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It depends on their criteria for giving him the boot. He may be a loss, or two away from the sack.
Who would sanction a club record transfer in that sitiuation?

Again - transfer strategy shouldn’t just be determined by the manager. In any case if they’re at the point of thinking “you’ve got a game or two to prove yourself” then he should be gone, because they’ve lost faith.

Having a precise ‘line in the sand’ is not about losing faith. It’s a trigger.

As for transfer strategy - you wouldn’t really want a significant signing to be made without a manager.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5618 on: August 30, 2022, 07:31:03 PM »
Given what Vinnie has just said, im not sure we’re signing anyone. Looking a bit bleak.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5619 on: August 30, 2022, 07:58:46 PM »
Given what Vinnie has just said, im not sure we’re signing anyone. Looking a bit bleak.
No ,bleak  is a 2015-16 Villa side.No central spine,goalie , Guzan,main central defender,Lescott,central striker,more often Ayew,sometimes  Gestede backed up by Gabby who was scoreless in 13 starts.The third highest scorer was 'own goals'.
If we're worrying about a 4th choice central defender,Kevin Toner made 3 starts in that season.
We have a reasonable squad and with decent coaching and tactics...spot our problem.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5620 on: August 30, 2022, 08:06:28 PM »
People are losing their minds a bit here. I cannot believe the owners saw being questioned either and the stimulus appears to be that we're not doing any further deals as of yet, despite a public intention to do so. While Wolves aren't doing any deals as of yet, beyond selling their other defensive mainstay and signing some random forward. Meanwhile Leicester, who again haven't done any deals yet, bar looking to sell their best defender to fund a lesser replacement. Okey doke.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5621 on: August 30, 2022, 08:09:39 PM »
I think for the first time this summer, I'm genuinely slightly concerned by our business.

Kamara looks an excellent signing, and we've been unfortunate with Diego Carlos. Coutinho is a decent signing at the price, though doesn't seem likely to hit his former heights at the moment. Olsen & Augustinsson seem decent backup options. To counter that though, we've lost Targett, AEG, Trez, Traore, Hause (for a year), Wesley, and Barney. I'm not sure our squad is massively stronger than it was before. I had assumed that maybe a striker or another midfielder might've come in now, and certainly a backup defender. On top of that, the players in the squad have, at beat, stood still for the past 12 months and in some cases regressed.

It's a tad worrying.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5622 on: August 30, 2022, 08:14:13 PM »
People are losing their minds a bit here. I cannot believe the owners saw being questioned either and the stimulus appears to be that we're not doing any further deals as of yet, despite a public intention to do so. While Wolves aren't doing any deals as of yet, beyond selling their other defensive mainstay and signing some random forward. Meanwhile Leicester, who again haven't done any deals yet, bar looking to sell their best defender to fund a lesser replacement. Okey doke.

Apart from Wolves signing one of the most highly rated midfielders in Europe for £40 million and breaking their transfer record, and being close to an £18m striker. Not sure we can hold ourselves against their business.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5623 on: August 30, 2022, 08:14:23 PM »
Given what Vinnie has just said, im not sure we’re signing anyone. Looking a bit bleak.
No ,bleak  is a 2015-16 Villa side.No central spine,goalie , Guzan,main central defender,Lescott,central striker,more often Ayew,sometimes  Gestede backed up by Gabby who was scoreless in 13 starts.The third highest scorer was 'own goals'.
If we're worrying about a 4th choice central defender,Kevin Toner made 3 starts in that season.
We have a reasonable squad and with decent coaching and tactics...spot our problem.




Problem is the leagues stronger now than then

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #5624 on: August 30, 2022, 08:21:18 PM »
People are losing their minds a bit here. I cannot believe the owners saw being questioned either and the stimulus appears to be that we're not doing any further deals as of yet, despite a public intention to do so. While Wolves aren't doing any deals as of yet, beyond selling their other defensive mainstay and signing some random forward. Meanwhile Leicester, who again haven't done any deals yet, bar looking to sell their best defender to fund a lesser replacement. Okey doke.

Wolves have spent over 100m including an incredibly promising midfielder at a price 10m over our record signing.

Wolves.

As we stand, we have a weaker squad than the one which was so shit last season.

 


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