Why does it only ever seem to be us who have a problem with FFP? Some clubs ignore it and pay whatever it costs, others never seem to mention it.
Quote from: Beard82 on August 20, 2022, 01:40:57 PMQuote from: jwarry on August 20, 2022, 01:36:35 PMRead an article in The Times today about Arteta. He struggled at first as he had to get rid of the troublemakers and dead wood. Took a lot more flak than SG did with Tyrone but three windows later has turned things around. So can’t judge SG yetBut Arteta inherited a mess, I dont think SG did? Clearly it will take him time, but to me this was a case of building on solid foundations and adding quality and fight, rather than having to overhaul a squadArteta inherited a team in 10th place. He finished 8th first season (took them up two places in the second half of the season), then 8th, then 5th at the end of his second full season.Gerrard inherited a team in 16th place, finished 14th (took them up two places in the second half of the season), and we'll see this season how much higher we go than 14th. If you've watched the latest amazon thing on Arsenal, you'll have noticed that Arteta clearly has a very specific way he likes his teams to play, and is VERY clear on how he wants his players to behave - showing ruthlessness in bombing out Aubamayang last season - for free, just to get rid of him - being a prime example. They also got within a whisker of the top 4, too. This season they've started really well and appear to have bought really well again.Whether Arteta is a good example of the benefits of staying with a manager in the early days when things aren't going great, or not, I don't know. They're still not yet back in the champions league, after all, but clearly they have progressed under him after a few years of misfires post-Wenger.The stuff I see and hear about Gerrard is IDENTICAL to what the Arsenal fans were saying about Arteta 18 months ago after he'd been in the job for a year or so.
Quote from: jwarry on August 20, 2022, 01:36:35 PMRead an article in The Times today about Arteta. He struggled at first as he had to get rid of the troublemakers and dead wood. Took a lot more flak than SG did with Tyrone but three windows later has turned things around. So can’t judge SG yetBut Arteta inherited a mess, I dont think SG did? Clearly it will take him time, but to me this was a case of building on solid foundations and adding quality and fight, rather than having to overhaul a squad
Read an article in The Times today about Arteta. He struggled at first as he had to get rid of the troublemakers and dead wood. Took a lot more flak than SG did with Tyrone but three windows later has turned things around. So can’t judge SG yet
Quote from: Smithy on August 20, 2022, 02:03:01 PMQuote from: Beard82 on August 20, 2022, 01:40:57 PMQuote from: jwarry on August 20, 2022, 01:36:35 PMRead an article in The Times today about Arteta. He struggled at first as he had to get rid of the troublemakers and dead wood. Took a lot more flak than SG did with Tyrone but three windows later has turned things around. So can’t judge SG yetBut Arteta inherited a mess, I dont think SG did? Clearly it will take him time, but to me this was a case of building on solid foundations and adding quality and fight, rather than having to overhaul a squadArteta inherited a team in 10th place. He finished 8th first season (took them up two places in the second half of the season), then 8th, then 5th at the end of his second full season.Gerrard inherited a team in 16th place, finished 14th (took them up two places in the second half of the season), and we'll see this season how much higher we go than 14th. If you've watched the latest amazon thing on Arsenal, you'll have noticed that Arteta clearly has a very specific way he likes his teams to play, and is VERY clear on how he wants his players to behave - showing ruthlessness in bombing out Aubamayang last season - for free, just to get rid of him - being a prime example. They also got within a whisker of the top 4, too. This season they've started really well and appear to have bought really well again.Whether Arteta is a good example of the benefits of staying with a manager in the early days when things aren't going great, or not, I don't know. They're still not yet back in the champions league, after all, but clearly they have progressed under him after a few years of misfires post-Wenger.The stuff I see and hear about Gerrard is IDENTICAL to what the Arsenal fans were saying about Arteta 18 months ago after he'd been in the job for a year or so.There is absolutely no way in hell Arsenal ever put in 3 performances as bad as our last 3 after arteta had been there for 9 months. No way
Quote from: dave.woodhall on August 20, 2022, 05:10:41 PMWhy does it only ever seem to be us who have a problem with FFP? Some clubs ignore it and pay whatever it costs, others never seem to mention it. I mentioned this earlier. It must have something to do with being the only club to ever get done for tapping up a player when everyone does it. In true villa form we didn't get the player.
Close that chequebook Wes and Nas - Don't give this chancer another fucking penny.
Quote from: Nii Lamptey on August 20, 2022, 05:58:21 PMClose that chequebook Wes and Nas - Don't give this chancer another fucking penny.I agree.