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Offline Delboy Villan

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4065 on: August 09, 2022, 08:27:22 AM »
How to improve defending at corners? Have 11 players on the pitch not 10 on the pitch and one adjusting his jewelry on the touchline?

We need to make out passing and movement sharper and quicker.

And why are there no decent links to players that will improve us? (although I am glad we are not like Manure and panic buying any rubbish because of a poor result)

We should test Leicester out for Ndidi or the other lad Mendy? There must be someone decent somewhere?

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4066 on: August 09, 2022, 08:28:30 AM »
While we're sat on our thumbs, spending a net spend of about £20 million across the last 3 windows, forest are having £42 million bids rejected.

How many of the players that Forest have bought would you have wanted for us?

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4067 on: August 09, 2022, 08:34:14 AM »
How to improve defending at corners? Have 11 players on the pitch not 10 on the pitch and one adjusting his jewelry on the touchline?

We need to make out passing and movement sharper and quicker.

And why are there no decent links to players that will improve us? (although I am glad we are not like Manure and panic buying any rubbish because of a poor result)

We should test Leicester out for Ndidi or the other lad Mendy? There must be someone decent somewhere?

He was on the pitch for the corner.

Yep quicker play for sure. We're ponderous.

Kamara, Carlos, Coutinho, Olsen are improvements, we did our main business early.

We are still looking for a midfielder according to Gerrard, and a striker according to media.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4068 on: August 09, 2022, 08:34:18 AM »
Would anyone take Ampadu from Chelsea? Seemingly surplus to requirements and always looks solid for Wales.

He's rubbish, woeful at Sheffield United.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4069 on: August 09, 2022, 08:43:25 AM »
Would anyone take Ampadu from Chelsea? Seemingly surplus to requirements and always looks solid for Wales.

He's rubbish, woeful at Sheffield United.
Good at kicking people.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4070 on: August 09, 2022, 08:52:51 AM »
While we're sat on our thumbs, spending a net spend of about £20 million across the last 3 windows, forest are having £42 million bids rejected.

How many of the players that Forest have bought would you have wanted for us?

On the basis of Saturday all of them. My point was forests proactive approach with investment. I've mentioned this many a time and the hearing of forest putting in bids like that, without having to sell, has really annoyed me. This isn't and won't be a popular opinion but just what are the two at the top doing? Last summer, we had just finished close to arsenal and they spend £130 million net and we mess about selling grealish, chuck the money around and end the window with a saving of £15 million. We chuck a few quid about January granted but I think that was only to keep the new manager sweet and so far this window we've spent about £8 million. This isn't going to cut it for the expectations THEY have set when you have clubs like west ham, Newcastle, wolves and the rest above us actually getting better. They aren't investing, they're trading, might as well call them Rodney and Del boy. This isn't some ungrateful post, I appreciate what they done for the club but don't go round spouting the rubbish they been saying about Europe, getting peoples hopes up if you're going to get off the pot. They're great at talking a good game, I'll give all three of them that.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4071 on: August 09, 2022, 08:59:57 AM »
I hope we sign someone else before the window closes.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4072 on: August 09, 2022, 09:08:05 AM »
While we're sat on our thumbs, spending a net spend of about £20 million across the last 3 windows, forest are having £42 million bids rejected.

How many of the players that Forest have bought would you have wanted for us?

On the basis of Saturday all of them. My point was forests proactive approach with investment. I've mentioned this many a time and the hearing of forest putting in bids like that, without having to sell, has really annoyed me. This isn't and won't be a popular opinion but just what are the two at the top doing? Last summer, we had just finished close to arsenal and they spend £130 million net and we mess about selling grealish, chuck the money around and end the window with a saving of £15 million. We chuck a few quid about January granted but I think that was only to keep the new manager sweet and so far this window we've spent about £8 million. This isn't going to cut it for the expectations THEY have set when you have clubs like west ham, Newcastle, wolves and the rest above us actually getting better. They aren't investing, they're trading, might as well call them Rodney and Del boy. This isn't some ungrateful post, I appreciate what they done for the club but don't go round spouting the rubbish they been saying about Europe, getting peoples hopes up if you're going to get off the pot. They're great at talking a good game, I'll give all three of them that.

I think you are probs lay right it’s not a ‘popular’ opinion…we lost a game! Wait till the window shuts at least before judging business.

Comparison to Forest is ridiculous, we were there the summer we came up….long in the past.  The clubs you mention are all buying in dribs and drabs and will continue till window closes as will we.

As for Europe, it’s a very even league below the top 5 and any of the teams is capable of finishing 6th/7th or having a Cup run. 

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4073 on: August 09, 2022, 09:42:07 AM »
While we're sat on our thumbs, spending a net spend of about £20 million across the last 3 windows, forest are having £42 million bids rejected.

How many of the players that Forest have bought would you have wanted for us?

On the basis of Saturday all of them. My point was forests proactive approach with investment. I've mentioned this many a time and the hearing of forest putting in bids like that, without having to sell, has really annoyed me. This isn't and won't be a popular opinion but just what are the two at the top doing? Last summer, we had just finished close to arsenal and they spend £130 million net and we mess about selling grealish, chuck the money around and end the window with a saving of £15 million. We chuck a few quid about January granted but I think that was only to keep the new manager sweet and so far this window we've spent about £8 million. This isn't going to cut it for the expectations THEY have set when you have clubs like west ham, Newcastle, wolves and the rest above us actually getting better. They aren't investing, they're trading, might as well call them Rodney and Del boy. This isn't some ungrateful post, I appreciate what they done for the club but don't go round spouting the rubbish they been saying about Europe, getting peoples hopes up if you're going to get off the pot. They're great at talking a good game, I'll give all three of them that.

I think you are probs lay right it’s not a ‘popular’ opinion…we lost a game! Wait till the window shuts at least before judging business.

Comparison to Forest is ridiculous, we were there the summer we came up….long in the past.  The clubs you mention are all buying in dribs and drabs and will continue till window closes as will we.

As for Europe, it’s a very even league below the top 5 and any of the teams is capable of finishing 6th/7th or having a Cup run. 




It's something I've been thinking about since last summer not just after Saturday. The eye opener for me as I mentioned was watching the direction us and arsenal have gone in since our reported interest in ESR. There was a lot of "Arsenal is a team we can catch" and then as history has proved time and time again we miss the boat. We've never stump up the cash, we've always been that 1 player short. The forest comparison isn't a ridiculous one because there is a very good chance, having just finished 14th that we'll be in the same bracket of teams as them, especially if they continue to invest by bidding £42 million for players. I said I'm grateful to the owners, which i am but let's not make out like they wouldn't get their money back if they sold the club tomorrow, so what they have put in isn't lost money. If they aren't going to put the funds up that's needed and let's be honest £300 million would only give us a fighting chance, stop spouting about Europe like the CEO had, stop spouting about making us one of the biggest clubs in the world like one of the owners have and be realistic. If we continue the way we are, people won't buy in to it (not saying me, I'll be going whatever) they will realise it's 8th that's still our ceiling at best and this waiting list stuff will stop. That's what I forecast and I think it's got more chance of happening than some sort of champions league dream I've been hearing about for 30 years, unless we sort the model.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4074 on: August 09, 2022, 09:49:36 AM »
Yeah, in June 2021 things looked really rosy. In August 2022 we have failed to match that.

However, I blame Joe Grealish, not the owners. Grealish is the one who torpedoes our ambitions by failing to buy into the project and shitting all over the club. £100 m aside, that was a major psychological blow as it went to the heart of what we have been building since we got promoted.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4075 on: August 09, 2022, 10:01:30 AM »
Yeah, in June 2021 things looked really rosy. In August 2022 we have failed to match that.

However, I blame Joe Grealish, not the owners. Grealish is the one who torpedoes our ambitions by failing to buy into the project and shitting all over the club. £100 m aside, that was a major psychological blow as it went to the heart of what we have been building since we got promoted.
Yeah - I think this is it.  We had a plan, that from what I can be arsed to read was similar to what Wes did in Basketball and build around a "megastar"

I think the ambition is there - we just wont through silly money at things.  Rightly or Wrongly.

The new plan seems to be to use SG fame to let us get better players - unfortunately any benefits that has brought us have more than cancelled out by his failure to make the team look good for more than the odd 30 min spells.

I think the fact we havent brought in more players is because we havent been able to find ones that are a clear upgrade on what we have - in the Digne / Kamara kind of way.

If were 100% honest, the best investment the owners could make is to bring in a real proven coach. If I was them I would be talking to Poch and seeing if there is anything we could do to get him to come. 

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4076 on: August 09, 2022, 10:20:57 AM »
Yeah, in June 2021 things looked really rosy. In August 2022 we have failed to match that.

However, I blame Joe Grealish, not the owners. Grealish is the one who torpedoes our ambitions by failing to buy into the project and shitting all over the club. £100 m aside, that was a major psychological blow as it went to the heart of what we have been building since we got promoted.

AVFC surely is bigger than one (former) player?

I'd agree we haven't remotely recovered from losing him but that's hardly the fault of Joe G.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4077 on: August 09, 2022, 10:23:50 AM »
I'd be buying a top notch striker. It's a simple game football. Score more goals and you'll generally do better. So far our striker purcases have been a lump from Brazil, a truly hopeless case from Tanzania, a Championship trier with the first touch of a medieval trebuchet and Grandpa Ings. Thick end of £90m on that little lot.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4078 on: August 09, 2022, 10:25:52 AM »

If were 100% honest, the best investment the owners could make is to bring in a real proven coach. If I was them I would be talking to Poch and seeing if there is anything we could do to get him to come. 

This for me, the one quality PL player of recent times who I think might make it as a top manager/coach is Viera, not Gerrard or Lampard.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #4079 on: August 09, 2022, 10:50:22 AM »
I'd be buying a top notch striker. It's a simple game football. Score more goals and you'll generally do better. So far our striker purcases have been a lump from Brazil, a truly hopeless case from Tanzania, a Championship trier with the first touch of a medieval trebuchet and Grandpa Ings. Thick end of £90m on that little lot.
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