Summer 2022 Transfer Thread

[nick harper]

It's a mess of two different manager's styles at the moment and it needs to be addressed.

In Gerrard's set up we need a striker and very mobile central midfielders who can cover the fullbacks. Neither Ramsey or McGinn are that type of player - I'm trying to think of an example of who that would actually be? Staunton? Bremner?

Deans 4231 lacked a brilliant CDM (Kamara could be that) then Doug sat alongside him would have been ok. This would have allowed the front four to function (Emi2, Bailey, Watkins, Bert).

But we are now a proper mishmash and also trying to accommodate an underperforming Phil and Ings...

Neither formation has an obvious place for our new captain or Ramsey.

Mish-mash is a succinct summary at the moment. No-one, including seemingly Gerrard, has a clear idea of our best first 11 or our identity at the moment. We’ve been pretty shapeless and disjointed for most of this year.

It feels like Gerrard needs to stumble on something that works as you don’t feel he has the nous to work it out for himself at the moment. It needs to happen for him quickly or I fear we are going to be at the arse end of the table again by September.

[cdbearsfan]

I'm going for a shock deadline day £30m deal for Chris Wood being Gerrard's.

I don't think we will even sign a striker.

[Risso]

I'd say Ramsey is more than mobile enough, he's just a young player having a dip in form.

[Brazilian Villain]

I flagged Cornet but was laughed off the site.

So it wasn't just one Cornet No?

[Drummond]

I flagged Cornet but was laughed off the site.

So it wasn't just one Cornet No?

No, it was ninety-nine.

[paul_e]

I think we're in danger of addrssing the wrong problem here. Coutinho is a world class player, Bailey has the pace and ability to hurt teams, Ramsey can drive through midfield and make things happen and between him and  Luiz, Sanson and McGinn we should have the ability to create chances.

We don't because our play is too slow. we dribble passes that barely reach their target and often mean the player has a man on him as he takes his first touch, when our players run in behind we either ignore them or play the pass so late that the defence has an age to step up and play the offside. We're predictable not because teams know what we're going to do before the game starts but because we telegraph everything and most of our players take 3-4 touches when 1-2 would be enough.

[Risso]

I think we're in danger of addrssing the wrong problem here. Coutinho is a world class player, Bailey has the pace and ability to hurt teams, Ramsey can drive through midfield and make things happen and between him and  Luiz, Sanson and McGinn we should have the ability to create chances.

We don't because our play is too slow. we dribble passes that barely reach their target and often mean the player has a man on him as he takes his first touch, when our players run in behind we either ignore them or play the pass so late that the defence has an age to step up and play the offside. We're predictable not because teams know what we're going to do before the game starts but because we telegraph everything and most of our players take 3-4 touches when 1-2 would be enough.

I watched the highlights of the home game against Spurs again the other day, and our general play was an utter joy to watch. Ramsey was taking the piss out of them, and our movement and passing were all of the very highest order. Son being world class was the main difference, well that and Konsa having a shocker and Danny Ings being Danny Ings.

[ozzjim]

You replace McGinn and Ings with 2 bigger, faster, stronger, better players we would improve no end.

[Risso]

You replace McGinn and Ings with 2 bigger, faster, stronger, better players we would improve no end.

Undoubtedly.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

It's a mess of two different manager's styles at the moment and it needs to be addressed.

In Gerrard's set up we need a striker and very mobile central midfielders who can cover the fullbacks. Neither Ramsey or McGinn are that type of player - I'm trying to think of an example of who that would actually be? Staunton? Bremner?

Deans 4231 lacked a brilliant CDM (Kamara could be that) then Doug sat alongside him would have been ok. This would have allowed the front four to function (Emi2, Bailey, Watkins, Bert).

But we are now a proper mishmash and also trying to accommodate an underperforming Phil and Ings...

Neither formation has an obvious place for our new captain or Ramsey.

Mish-mash is a succinct summary at the moment. No-one, including seemingly Gerrard, has a clear idea of our best first 11 or our identity at the moment. We’ve been pretty shapeless and disjointed for most of this year.

It feels like Gerrard needs to stumble on something that works as you don’t feel he has the nous to work it out for himself at the moment. It needs to happen for him quickly or I fear we are going to be at the arse end of the table again by September.

If Saturday and pre-season are anything to go by it's 'a mess of two different manager's Assistant Head Coach's styles at the moment and it needs to be addressed.' We appear to have completely abandoned Beale's attacking wing backs in favour of wingers. Gone also are Beale's neat one-twos through the middle, now we have Critchley's lob it into the box from the wings.

Defensively we seem to have given up on zonal marking at corners and free kicks in favour of man marking. I've never been a fan of zonal marking but my god the confusion on Saturday as we tried to man mark Bournemouth was anarchy. If this is SG's idea of 'identity' we're the new punks of the PL.

[London Villan]

How do you get Ramsey, SJM, Phil and EMi2 in the same team and have a decent balance - I can't see it, but that's what he s trying to do.

SJM and Ramsey might work if we had proper wide players (Kamara holding) and not rely on full-backs for width. They both have an eye for goal and arriving late around a focal point striker could work - however no place for Phil or Emi2.

[Risso]

It's a mess of two different manager's styles at the moment and it needs to be addressed.

In Gerrard's set up we need a striker and very mobile central midfielders who can cover the fullbacks. Neither Ramsey or McGinn are that type of player - I'm trying to think of an example of who that would actually be? Staunton? Bremner?

Deans 4231 lacked a brilliant CDM (Kamara could be that) then Doug sat alongside him would have been ok. This would have allowed the front four to function (Emi2, Bailey, Watkins, Bert).

But we are now a proper mishmash and also trying to accommodate an underperforming Phil and Ings...

Neither formation has an obvious place for our new captain or Ramsey.

Mish-mash is a succinct summary at the moment. No-one, including seemingly Gerrard, has a clear idea of our best first 11 or our identity at the moment. We’ve been pretty shapeless and disjointed for most of this year.

It feels like Gerrard needs to stumble on something that works as you don’t feel he has the nous to work it out for himself at the moment. It needs to happen for him quickly or I fear we are going to be at the arse end of the table again by September.

If Saturday and pre-season are anything to go by it's 'a mess of two different manager's Assistant Head Coach's styles at the moment and it needs to be addressed.' We appear to have completely abandoned Beale's attacking wing backs in favour of wingers. Gone also are Beale's neat one-twos through the middle, now we have Critchley's lob it into the box from the wings.

Defensively we seem to have given up on zonal marking at corners and free kicks in favour of man marking. I've never been a fan of zonal marking but my god the confusion on Saturday as we tried to man mark Bournemouth was anarchy. If this is SG's idea of 'identity' we're the new punks of the PL.

Bloody hell, it's one game. And corners will still be the preserve of that idiot MacPhee, of that I'm certain.

[paul_e]

I think we're in danger of addrssing the wrong problem here. Coutinho is a world class player, Bailey has the pace and ability to hurt teams, Ramsey can drive through midfield and make things happen and between him and  Luiz, Sanson and McGinn we should have the ability to create chances.

We don't because our play is too slow. we dribble passes that barely reach their target and often mean the player has a man on him as he takes his first touch, when our players run in behind we either ignore them or play the pass so late that the defence has an age to step up and play the offside. We're predictable not because teams know what we're going to do before the game starts but because we telegraph everything and most of our players take 3-4 touches when 1-2 would be enough.

I watched the highlights of the home game against Spurs again the other day, and our general play was an utter joy to watch. Ramsey was taking the piss out of them, and our movement and passing were all of the very highest order. Son being world class was the main difference, well that and Konsa having a shocker and Danny Ings being Danny Ings.

Absolutely, and that game was the one where our tempo was spot on, I can only think the undeserved battering had an impact. Right now I'm hoping that the weekend was just us not going up a gear from pre-season and that we'll add a bit more zip soon but I'm still worried about how wide Ramsey and McGinn go if Kamara is going back into the defence as often as he did. We either cover behind the fll backs or we defend as a 3 when they bomb on, doing both is effecitvely turning us into a completely unbalanced 541 where the 4 are all ahead of the ball with a huge gap back to the 5. Add in how slow we are and we're effectively cuttin gour team in half and forcing ourselves to go over or around teams.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Bloody hell, it's one game. And corners will still be the preserve of that idiot MacPhee, of that I'm certain.

I appreciate it's one game, hence the 'If Saturday and pre-season are anything to go by..' but the concern remains. I also very much doubt MacPhee was the one to decide the switch from zonal to man marking on corners. I wonder if one of our subbed players was given the job to man mark Kieffer Moore at corners and no instruction was given to the oncoming player? Whatever happened it was a mess.

[paul_e]

Bloody hell, it's one game. And corners will still be the preserve of that idiot MacPhee, of that I'm certain.

I appreciate it's one game, hence the 'If Saturday and pre-season are anything to go by..' but the concern remains. I also very much doubt MacPhee was the one to decide the switch from zonal to man marking on corners. I wonder if one of our subbed players was given the job to man mark Kieffer Moore at corners and no instruction was given to the oncoming player? Whatever happened it was a mess.

I think a big part of th eproblem with corners on sat is that Mings and Chambers are the 2 best options in the squad for defending them and we left both on the bench.