Quote from: cdbearsfan on August 06, 2022, 08:18:42 PMThere are myriad criticisms of Gerrard on here tonight and before, some from me, but I'm not really opposed to any of his signings. I'm more disappointed with who we haven't signed, in particular our failure, thus far, to acquire a top goalscorer. Hopefully this is rectified by September. Along with another midfielder, preferably. Though I seem the exception on here in that I'd rather sign a forward than a midfielder if we can have only one or the other.I'm with you, a top quality striker is an absolute must. Ings looks like an old man doing his best, and Watkins looks like a lower league player, full of running but very short on quality. I'd stick Buendia in the actual midfield if need be. A decent midfielder would be nice, but it would also be good to get the best out of the ones we have.
There are myriad criticisms of Gerrard on here tonight and before, some from me, but I'm not really opposed to any of his signings. I'm more disappointed with who we haven't signed, in particular our failure, thus far, to acquire a top goalscorer. Hopefully this is rectified by September. Along with another midfielder, preferably. Though I seem the exception on here in that I'd rather sign a forward than a midfielder if we can have only one or the other.
Pay the money for Conor Gallagher
Quote from: brontebilly on August 06, 2022, 10:39:17 PMQuote from: Risso on August 06, 2022, 10:29:38 PMQuote from: Alex77 on August 06, 2022, 10:23:34 PMQuote from: Ads on August 06, 2022, 09:36:45 PMQuote from: Drummond on August 06, 2022, 09:35:28 PMQuote from: Ads on August 06, 2022, 06:19:40 PMWe need a centre forward and an 8 badly.Funny isn't it, the last couple of years all we needed was a 6.. I'm not sure what's funny about thinking we need better quality players to lift us out the bottom half. Seriously! Make reference to bottom half after one performance is just plain daft. When we plug the gaps of a cf and an 8, which position will you demand next?We have clearly got a quality squad that are not achieving what's required. Surely the focus should be on the management?Our strikers are shit. Ings looks like he needs a zimmer frame, and Watkins resembles a puppy chasing a balloon.Ings had a very good first 25/30 mins but you just knew on a warm day he wouldnt last the pace. Still, he was out on his feet just after half time, hands on hips time. I don't think we can be carrying such a player on his wages, yet Gerrard has him in his 'leadership' group. If we got a chance to shift him on in the next few weeks we have to take it. I'd have a lot more faith in Watkins, for starters he can last 90 mins. Apparently we missed our chance to sell him to West Ham at a decent price, so the chef says.
Quote from: Risso on August 06, 2022, 10:29:38 PMQuote from: Alex77 on August 06, 2022, 10:23:34 PMQuote from: Ads on August 06, 2022, 09:36:45 PMQuote from: Drummond on August 06, 2022, 09:35:28 PMQuote from: Ads on August 06, 2022, 06:19:40 PMWe need a centre forward and an 8 badly.Funny isn't it, the last couple of years all we needed was a 6.. I'm not sure what's funny about thinking we need better quality players to lift us out the bottom half. Seriously! Make reference to bottom half after one performance is just plain daft. When we plug the gaps of a cf and an 8, which position will you demand next?We have clearly got a quality squad that are not achieving what's required. Surely the focus should be on the management?Our strikers are shit. Ings looks like he needs a zimmer frame, and Watkins resembles a puppy chasing a balloon.Ings had a very good first 25/30 mins but you just knew on a warm day he wouldnt last the pace. Still, he was out on his feet just after half time, hands on hips time. I don't think we can be carrying such a player on his wages, yet Gerrard has him in his 'leadership' group. If we got a chance to shift him on in the next few weeks we have to take it. I'd have a lot more faith in Watkins, for starters he can last 90 mins.
Quote from: Alex77 on August 06, 2022, 10:23:34 PMQuote from: Ads on August 06, 2022, 09:36:45 PMQuote from: Drummond on August 06, 2022, 09:35:28 PMQuote from: Ads on August 06, 2022, 06:19:40 PMWe need a centre forward and an 8 badly.Funny isn't it, the last couple of years all we needed was a 6.. I'm not sure what's funny about thinking we need better quality players to lift us out the bottom half. Seriously! Make reference to bottom half after one performance is just plain daft. When we plug the gaps of a cf and an 8, which position will you demand next?We have clearly got a quality squad that are not achieving what's required. Surely the focus should be on the management?Our strikers are shit. Ings looks like he needs a zimmer frame, and Watkins resembles a puppy chasing a balloon.
Quote from: Ads on August 06, 2022, 09:36:45 PMQuote from: Drummond on August 06, 2022, 09:35:28 PMQuote from: Ads on August 06, 2022, 06:19:40 PMWe need a centre forward and an 8 badly.Funny isn't it, the last couple of years all we needed was a 6.. I'm not sure what's funny about thinking we need better quality players to lift us out the bottom half. Seriously! Make reference to bottom half after one performance is just plain daft. When we plug the gaps of a cf and an 8, which position will you demand next?We have clearly got a quality squad that are not achieving what's required. Surely the focus should be on the management?
Quote from: Drummond on August 06, 2022, 09:35:28 PMQuote from: Ads on August 06, 2022, 06:19:40 PMWe need a centre forward and an 8 badly.Funny isn't it, the last couple of years all we needed was a 6.. I'm not sure what's funny about thinking we need better quality players to lift us out the bottom half.
Quote from: Ads on August 06, 2022, 06:19:40 PMWe need a centre forward and an 8 badly.Funny isn't it, the last couple of years all we needed was a 6..
We need a centre forward and an 8 badly.
Ings can at least look back on 20 minutes of contribution. Watkins was poor again. His touch remains so poor.
There was an occasion yesterday where he received the ball with his back to goal, threaded through their midfield and about 5 yards onto him against a defender. His touch was so poor he miscontrolled it beyond their midfielder. That's not confidence, that's something he ought to have the ability to do from a young age. He can't and never will, no matter how chipper he feels at any given moment.
Quote from: Ads on August 07, 2022, 09:02:57 AMThere was an occasion yesterday where he received the ball with his back to goal, threaded through their midfield and about 5 yards onto him against a defender. His touch was so poor he miscontrolled it beyond their midfielder. That's not confidence, that's something he ought to have the ability to do from a young age. He can't and never will, no matter how chipper he feels at any given moment.His touch was fine in his first season. Is that now gone forever? And even with a woeful first touch he still gives more to the team than Ings.
Neither of them are good enough.
We haven't got a striker in the squad that is suited to Gerrard's current preferred formation. We need a Benteke/Drogba type - none of the four we have are anything like that.