Seeing the BBC footy headline 'Martinez in advanced talks with Man Utd' had me going for a second.
Wijnaldum will have a few clubs interested but that hasn't put us off other targets. Another reason why Collins would choose Wolves is that they play with a back 3 so more opportunities.
I get it, and ideally you want players who back themselves to get into the team. Other teams are more than welcome to any player afraid of competition in my book.If they aren't competitive enough to fight for their place, how on earth are they going to be competitive enough to win anything?
Wijnaldum would make a lot of sense but I think he's maybe out of reach, right on the edge for me.
Quote from: LeeB on July 15, 2022, 09:52:41 AMQuote from: Dogtanian on July 15, 2022, 09:38:10 AMI get it, and ideally you want players who back themselves to get into the team. Other teams are more than welcome to any player afraid of competition in my book.If they aren't competitive enough to fight for their place, how on earth are they going to be competitive enough to win anything?There is that, but you've also got to be realistic with where you are in your career, and with how the club are selling the role. We're looking at a player (I think) to back up the first choice pair and challenge them, but with no guarantees, whereas the other teams are probably looking at them as starters.However confident you are are in yourself you've still got to convince others and it comes with risk. I think in the same situation I'd take the offer of playing time, and let's be fair, Wulvz finished above us and Everton are a big club regardless of their problems.I don't disagree with you, it sounds like the right decision for them and us. Gerrard keeps saying he wants that competitive instinct and for people to be obsessed with winning the shirt, but that's not for everyone like you say.
Quote from: Dogtanian on July 15, 2022, 09:38:10 AMI get it, and ideally you want players who back themselves to get into the team. Other teams are more than welcome to any player afraid of competition in my book.If they aren't competitive enough to fight for their place, how on earth are they going to be competitive enough to win anything?There is that, but you've also got to be realistic with where you are in your career, and with how the club are selling the role. We're looking at a player (I think) to back up the first choice pair and challenge them, but with no guarantees, whereas the other teams are probably looking at them as starters.However confident you are are in yourself you've still got to convince others and it comes with risk. I think in the same situation I'd take the offer of playing time, and let's be fair, Wulvz finished above us and Everton are a big club regardless of their problems.
It's not just about fighting spirit as you allude to. Kourtney thinks he's good enough and want's to fight for a place but doesn't get a look in. You're being unfair.
Quote from: paul_e on July 15, 2022, 10:43:30 AMWijnaldum would make a lot of sense but I think he's maybe out of reach, right on the edge for me.Good shout. Could well be one of those we have to wait on until later in the window.
Quote from: chrisw1 on July 15, 2022, 12:08:02 PMIt's not just about fighting spirit as you allude to. Kourtney thinks he's good enough and want's to fight for a place but doesn't get a look in. You're being unfair. Genuinely not trying to be argumentative here! Which bit do you feel is unfair? I don't think I've criticised anyone and certainly haven't been trying to.I think Hause has been taken out of the team too quickly on occasion, he's been there when we have needed him.
Quote from: Dogtanian on July 15, 2022, 12:15:22 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 15, 2022, 12:08:02 PMIt's not just about fighting spirit as you allude to. Kourtney thinks he's good enough and want's to fight for a place but doesn't get a look in. You're being unfair. Genuinely not trying to be argumentative here! Which bit do you feel is unfair? I don't think I've criticised anyone and certainly haven't been trying to.I think Hause has been taken out of the team too quickly on occasion, he's been there when we have needed him.Implying Collins doesn't have competitive instinct or an obsession with winning the shirt - 'that's not for everyone'
I’ll take one Draxler please.