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Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3210 on: July 14, 2022, 08:29:40 AM »
We have a shortlist of at least top 4 CM’s. Think it’s a waiting game as number of clubs after same guys

Sangare
De Paul

Who are the other two? Conor Gallagher and another one?

The waiting game would tie in with Gallagher as Chelsea have reportedly said nothing doing, regarding him, until towards the end of window

Gallagher? That's all well and good, but why would we be after an inexperienced midfielder at a move for around £30 million? I'm not sure there's any interest there.

As Gerrard has stated, experienced players are required to achieve our ambitions..
If the other targets aren't signed, Winks is the best option because he checks all the boxes and will cost £20 million.

Gerrard.
"I’ve said on many occasions that I want as much experience as I can in this group in the dressing room. If we’re to get to where we want to, to achieve our internal targets that we’ve set out, we need experienced players. We need players that have got experience not just on the domestic stage but internationally and in Europe too"
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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3211 on: July 14, 2022, 08:33:51 AM »
i would rather spend an additional 10M on Gallagher than a plodder like Winks who would not improve our midfield.

Gallagher is only 22, has played for England and will get better. Winks is just, well Winks!!!

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3212 on: July 14, 2022, 08:36:00 AM »
I rather keep Chukwuemeka as he's something else.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3213 on: July 14, 2022, 08:38:34 AM »
I rather keep Chukwuemeka as he's something else.


But if he doesn't want to stay, let him  go. Gerrard is doing the right thing.

Don't get me wrong Footy, I would be delighted if Carney signed a new 5 year contract and pledged his immediate future to Villa.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3214 on: July 14, 2022, 08:42:12 AM »
i would rather spend an additional 10M on Gallagher than a plodder like Winks who would not improve our midfield.

Gallagher is only 22, has played for England and will get better. Winks is just, well Winks!!!

Listen we must all rely on what Gerrard has said about experience and what it takes and requires to achieve our ambitions this season.

Gallagher, 22, needs a couple more seasons to improve, and having him in a midfield with Ramsey 21 and Kamara 22 is not going to happen under SG, they don't have that required  experience outside of Kamara , who is new to the league.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3215 on: July 14, 2022, 08:42:48 AM »
Winks is 26 and played 120 odd PL games, Gallagher is 22 & played 60 odd + a couple of very good loans in EFL so I don’t think there is a huge amount in experience levels….it’s ability and what they would bring that is the difference & going on last 12-18 Gallagher is light years ahead of Winks in terms of game time and game impact.  Would stick with Luiz / Sanson / Nakamba over Winks….someone else can take the risk of seeing if he is a player or plodder

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3216 on: July 14, 2022, 08:44:04 AM »
Yes Winks isn't ideal for first pick but he's played international and in champions league and other European competition you

  I think we be looking more at Hassan Aurora of Lyon is 24. Has experience in champions league and wants to come to the premier league.


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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3217 on: July 14, 2022, 08:44:18 AM »
I rather keep Chukwuemeka as he's something else.


It appears that’s not something the club can influence.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3218 on: July 14, 2022, 08:49:24 AM »
I have never heard SG say we are exclusively recruiting experienced players. He talks about a good mix - ability, potential, experience, winning mentality. He has been increasing our experience because we had a lot of ability and potential, but not enough experience and winning mentality and he wants to correct that balance.

We will still be recruiting potential when the deal is a good for the club.

As for Winks and experience, he has only 10 senior caps and none in the last two years. He's been a loser in two finals and won nothing in his career. I think we can get better experience!

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3219 on: July 14, 2022, 08:51:39 AM »
I rather keep Chukwuemeka as he's something else.


It appears that’s not something the club can influence.
It seems so.
I just hope that this is just a result of where we are at the moment. If players like Grealish and Chukwuemeka were buying into our ambitious, they would stay because they will help us get there more quickly and believed it was possible.

Players will want to stay here if we advance our levels because they would know they are at a club that competes for trophies and top-tier honours, in my opinion.


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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3220 on: July 14, 2022, 08:55:01 AM »
You can't compare Grealish and Chucky. Grealish was a 26 year old top class international player who felt he wanted to play at the top level*, whereas Chucky is an 18 year old kid who has done nothing spectacular in the first team to date.

* Still think he is a %$^^%$ for leaving Villa and not defending him.   

Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3221 on: July 14, 2022, 08:57:32 AM »
I have never heard SG say we are exclusively recruiting experienced players. He talks about a good mix - ability, potential, experience, winning mentality. He has been increasing our experience because we had a lot of ability and potential, but not enough experience and winning mentality and he wants to correct that balance.

We will still be recruiting potential when the deal is a good for the club.

As for Winks and experience, he has only 10 senior caps and none in the last two years. He's been a loser in two finals and won nothing in his career. I think we can get better experience!
SG has said it numerous times!!
He was quoted as saying it "many times."
I simply quoted what SG said about experience.
And that quote is from an interview he gave while in Australia! Aston Villa's official website.

I'm actually attempting to give people understanding what remit Gerrard is looking for right now, but if you choose and seems not to want to listen to what Gerrard has to say then ok.
Having that insight from what Gerrard has said helps us see things a bit more clearly on players signings as well as likes of Ashley Young and Elmo being around the squad.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3222 on: July 14, 2022, 09:01:56 AM »
You can't compare Grealish and Chucky. Grealish was a 26 year old top class international player who felt he wanted to play at the top level*, whereas Chucky is an 18 year old kid who has done nothing spectacular in the first team to date.

* Still think he is a %$^^%$ for leaving Villa and not defending him.
Yes, absolutely.
To be clear, I wasn't comparing them; rather, I was referring to them by name.

I was trying to be saying how both of them leaving this club when they are rated players doesn't bode well as a message for all of our ambitions, whether it's an established player or a highly rated up and coming player.



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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3223 on: July 14, 2022, 09:05:50 AM »
See Bruce Springsteen is at Villa Park next year - not at all gutted that I booked to see him in Barcalona as didnt think hes coming to the UK

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #3224 on: July 14, 2022, 09:07:44 AM »
I agree and disagree. When Grealish left it was a blow to our ambitions.
With Chucky it isn't, it is either jump aboard or go. That is a completely different mentality and mindset in my opinion. We have a goal and don't want players who are reluctant to be agreeable to where we are (hopefully) heading.

 


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