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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2022, 07:35:00 PM »
It’s the area we must address to bridge the gap and we won’t be looking for “bargains”.
A fit Phillips is a no brainer
Who in the top three would want him given their squads?
Doubt he will go to Manure.
To be fair - its only the last 18 months that were bad.  Think the previous summer was good, and wesley and engles aside most of the promotion cohort have done ok

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2022, 08:02:38 PM »
It’s the area we must address to bridge the gap and we won’t be looking for “bargains”.
A fit Phillips is a no brainer
Who in the top three would want him given their squads?
Doubt he will go to Manure.
To be fair - its only the last 18 months that were bad.  Think the previous summer was good, and wesley and engles aside most of the promotion cohort have done ok
I have no problem overall with the recruitment since NSWE took charge. But now if we want to make the next step up then recruitment needs to be at the highest level. We have the youth to enhance sustainability and unearth the odd gem. Phillips is one of those that would make us a lot stronger in an area we are lacking.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2022, 08:49:30 PM »
This would be a good signing if we could get him.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2022, 09:35:59 PM »
He’s superb, he’s nearly up there with Rice, not quite but close.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2022, 09:59:42 PM »
A player like this is exactly what we need. We’ll need to pay a premium for someone like that but to me it’s a must. 

I think we last few windows we have worried too much about value - bissoma, ESR, and JWP we never have been prepared to do what it takes.  But we have spent 120m on sanson, Emi, ings and Bailey - of which none are now guaranteed starters - we need to get players that are head and shoulders above what we’ve got now.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2022, 01:18:58 AM »
If we had offers for Luiz in Jan close to £30m as rumoured, I kinda wish we had taken it. Sanson would have performed better and Luiz may not sign/be offered a new contract in the summer.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2022, 09:42:52 AM »
Phillips, Coutinho, Haaland and Suarez and I'd be happy. Would cost less than we spent in 2019.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2022, 09:43:02 AM »
I don't think £60m is scandalous.  It's a big fee, but he's an England international and incredibly highly thought of by his current club.

If we were to sell McGinn or Ramsey people would be quoting £50m +, we'd want £40-£50m for Konsa or Cash.  If Leeds are prepared to sell and he wants to leave I reckon they'll get the £60m or close to it.

As for him coming to us, it feels unlikely to me.  But I have heard Gerrard REALLY wants him.  I think we have shifted our thinking on wages and would be prepared to offer him a big package, so it's just whether the draw of playing for Gerrard and with the likes of Coutinho would appeal to him.  I don't think he would go to Man Utd with the rivalry, but I could see Arsenal being interested, particulaly if they secure top 4.

I like him a lot, but one thing that does concern me is he wouldn't add to the size of the team, which Gerrard mentioned as an issue after thge West Ham game.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2022, 09:48:49 AM »
I think £60m is about fair for Phillips.  It's a huge price tag, don't get me wrong, but if you want players to compete at the top end of the table, that's the sort of prices you're going to end up paying.

Not saying for one minute that we should abandon the bargain buy strategy.  We've already shown twice in January that there's bargains to be had that can improve both the first team (Coutinho, assuming we sign him) and the general squad strength (Chambers).  But you'd also say that - pick a random player from the first team of a mid-table club.  They're going to cost you about £25m-£40m.  If you keep buying players in that kind of price bracket, then with a few odd exceptions you're going to end up with a mid-table quality squad.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2022, 10:06:26 AM »
Phillips would be a great buy and we could add Loftus-Cheek for a bit of bulk with a fair amount of skill.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2022, 10:14:15 AM »
That’s the going rate though. £20-£30 seems to only get average mid table players now. Many are writing off our £30 million striker and saying he’s a mid table player.

I dunno if that's more about that being what £30m gets you in general, or that's what £30m gets you when it's us spending the money.

It seems like we are alone in this but I’m guessing we are not.  But if you take two or three recent examples.  Olise and Eze cost much less for Palace than Bailey did for us and I was urging us to go for Olise at the time. 

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2022, 10:40:32 AM »
That’s the going rate though. £20-£30 seems to only get average mid table players now. Many are writing off our £30 million striker and saying he’s a mid table player.

I dunno if that's more about that being what £30m gets you in general, or that's what £30m gets you when it's us spending the money.

It seems like we are alone in this but I’m guessing we are not.  But if you take two or three recent examples.  Olise and Eze cost much less for Palace than Bailey did for us and I was urging us to go for Olise at the time.

The issue with someone like Olise is he’s in the same bracket as Ramsey, an up and coming young player who will play well in patches but then give you 3 or 4 game where  it isnt happening and you have to patient through that learning process.

That said I would concur that Bailey hasn’t been worth the money so far and there’s now a question mark if he can function in an SG team as he was bought specifically for the way we played under DS.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2022, 10:48:31 AM »
Bailey showed some great touches at the beginning of the season, then has been injured and had a few minutes here and there since. He really needs to be given a chance.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2022, 10:58:04 AM »
Bailey showed some great touches at the beginning of the season, then has been injured and had a few minutes here and there since. He really needs to be given a chance.

Yeah that's fair enough. He's had awful luck with injuries.

 


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