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Offline Risso

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2910 on: July 05, 2022, 09:37:29 AM »
Yeah, I think our net spend so far this season is £29m, so if we can get £20-25m for him that wipes most of that out and we will be able to spend on another good midfield option.  The Dougie situation has been coming for a while so I would be gobsmacked if we don't have a few potential targets identified in case of his going.

Plus he's far too good looking.

Dougie and Diego together in the "back to work" video on the official Twitter yesterday was pretty high on the handsomeness scale. Add in Tyrone and it goes off the chart. No wonder poor old Targett left.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2911 on: July 05, 2022, 09:38:16 AM »
If us selling Dougie, means that we are able to buy a better player in that position, then we should sell

Well yeah but you could say the same thing about every single player we have on the books
Exactly.  And I still feel we haven't seen the best of Doug.  It would be a shame to lose him just as he's got the chance to play further forward with Kamara behind or along side him.  I'd really like to keep him to see what he can do, but of course if he won't sign then we have to sell.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2912 on: July 05, 2022, 09:57:51 AM »
the way to improve any team is to always sell well and buy better players in their place

If you don't do this how can you improve?

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2913 on: July 05, 2022, 10:24:29 AM »
the way to improve any team is to always sell well and buy better players in their place

If you don't do this how can you improve?
But we don't know how good Doug can be as he's never played with a quality DM for us.  I think he'll leave, but I do wonder if we may regret it in time.  I still think he could be an excellent 8 or even in a double pivot roll where he doesn't have the whole defensive responsibility.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2914 on: July 05, 2022, 10:27:07 AM »
the way to improve any team is to always sell well and buy better players in their place

If you don't do this how can you improve?
But we don't know how good Doug can be as he's never played with a quality DM for us.  I think he'll leave, but I do wonder if we may regret it in time.  I still think he could be an excellent 8 or even in a double pivot roll where he doesn't have the whole defensive responsibility.

He was bought as a quality DM, he just isn't one.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2915 on: July 05, 2022, 10:30:20 AM »
the way to improve any team is to always sell well and buy better players in their place

If you don't do this how can you improve?
But we don't know how good Doug can be as he's never played with a quality DM for us.  I think he'll leave, but I do wonder if we may regret it in time.  I still think he could be an excellent 8 or even in a double pivot roll where he doesn't have the whole defensive responsibility.

He was bought as a quality DM, he just isn't one.
Was he?

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2916 on: July 05, 2022, 10:54:32 AM »
the way to improve any team is to always sell well and buy better players in their place

If you don't do this how can you improve?
But we don't know how good Doug can be as he's never played with a quality DM for us.  I think he'll leave, but I do wonder if we may regret it in time.  I still think he could be an excellent 8 or even in a double pivot roll where he doesn't have the whole defensive responsibility.

He was bought as a quality DM, he just isn't one.
Was he?

Yep.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-luiz-transfer-news-17430028

"Guardiola bemoaned the fact that City had to sell Luiz prior to the two clubs meeting in October.

"He would be here if a work permit were possible if the Premier League said it would be possible but now he is at Aston Villa," he said.

"We have an option to get him back but sometimes life is like this. We wanted him because last season we had problems in that position because we didn’t buy a holding midfielder."

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2917 on: July 05, 2022, 10:57:18 AM »
If us selling Dougie, means that we are able to buy a better player in that position, then we should sell

Well yeah but you could say the same thing about every single player we have on the books
Exactly.  And I still feel we haven't seen the best of Doug.  It would be a shame to lose him just as he's got the chance to play further forward with Kamara behind or along side him.  I'd really like to keep him to see what he can do, but of course if he won't sign then we have to sell.

I agree, that has to be our position. Sign up or be sold. Though I get the feeling he wants a move now anyway.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2918 on: July 05, 2022, 10:58:51 AM »
Surely with Doug its just down to whether he signs a contract or not. 

If not, we would be mad not to cash in now

Likewise with Chucky

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2919 on: July 05, 2022, 11:01:31 AM »
Surely with Doug its just down to whether he signs a contract or not. 

If not, we would be mad not to cash in now

Likewise with Chucky

I think it's different with Chukwuemeka. He's a young player- going places, like the Villa. He'll get more games this season, and a chance to impress and earn a bigger contract. Even next season we get a development fee I think as he's under 23.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2920 on: July 05, 2022, 11:25:28 AM »
Surely with Doug its just down to whether he signs a contract or not. 

If not, we would be mad not to cash in now

Likewise with Chucky

I think it's different with Chukwuemeka. He's a young player- going places, like the Villa. He'll get more games this season, and a chance to impress and earn a bigger contract. Even next season we get a development fee I think as he's under 23.
Ah ok - I didnt realise that.  Then maybe no harm in keeping him - assuming the motivation is money and football, rather than he just doesnt like being here

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2921 on: July 05, 2022, 12:01:37 PM »
Hourihane going to Derby? Surprised at that one, he's easily good enough for a Championship team.

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-conor-hourihane-undergoes-derby-county-medical-today-after-quitting-aston-villa/

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2922 on: July 05, 2022, 12:14:54 PM »
Hourihane going to Derby? Surprised at that one, he's easily good enough for a Championship team.

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-conor-hourihane-undergoes-derby-county-medical-today-after-quitting-aston-villa/

I think there's talk of him and Chesters going there. Which would be really good for Chelsea. i think Geographically it would work for Hourihane, given he's come from Barnsley to Villa, then to Sheffield United. Derby would mean less disruption.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2923 on: July 05, 2022, 12:20:20 PM »
Feels a bit quiet. What do you lot think with regards to incomings? I feel like there are two more big signings to be made. Hopefully we get something ASAP. A striker and another defender.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2924 on: July 05, 2022, 12:58:45 PM »
I think we got in players early that we felt we absolutely needed. And now with everyone back and a manager who won’t have truly had a chance to evaluate what he has given he came in mid season, then I think we should be taking this time to see what/who will work and who won’t. The early part of pre season will help with that plus a couple of games. I fully expect that some will leave and we will invest as the summer goes along. We shouldn’t be just lashing out money on new players without properly understanding whether or not the players we do have, that in many cases we spent a lot of money on, can actually work in what the manager and staff are looking to implement. And we also have some tremendous young talent to evaluate also.

 


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