Aston Villa 0 Watford 1 Post Match Thread

[dave.woodhall]

We were very quiet and even when Watford fans sang theres only one Graham Taylor we didn't join in.

There was a bit of applause but that was it.


yep that was disappointing

[JUAN PABLO]

he needs to stop the rot fast…. Konsa back next week, so stick Chambers at DM in for Doug Luis, Sanson in for McGinn, and stick with Ings up front, as there was a spark and intelligence between him and Coutinho/Buendia.

this

[BC Villain]

How much longer do we have to put up with the ineptness of Mcginn. The times he gets the ball swivels round looking for the Hollywood pass and then either over cooks it ot it is intercepted makes me want to scream.

He should be nowhere near the side.
 Luiz just looks like he doesn't give a fuck.
Can anyone actually think Digne is a £25m upgrade on Targett?

That embarrassing free kick he took at Newcastle last week sums McGinn up at the moment.  You wouldn't even see that over the park on a Sunday morning.

[Damo70]

We were very quiet and even when Watford fans sang theres only one Graham Taylor we didn't join in.

There was a bit of applause but that was it.


yep that was disappointing

I am sad to say a lot of younger Villa fans probably don't appreciate SGT's impact and legacy when we were crying out for just what he delivered between 1987 and 1990. He was appointed on the exact same day I left
comprehensive school. I distinctly remember ducking and diving to avoid the traditional eggs and flower bombardment from my school mates by taking refuge in the newsagents and to my utter shock and delight I saw the Evening Mail headline announcing SGT had been appointed Villa manager. I am also proud to say I was at his first game at Portman Road, his last game at Goodison and his first England qualifying game in charge. I was also fortunate to meet him in person twice.

[Axl Rose]

Yep. You have someone on here saying Coutinho has turned  from a prince into a frog just because he's not had two great games. Some of our fans are just ridiculously childish.

Yes people who pay good money to watch are childish. You should have said fickle as well just to rub it in.

Agreed mate.

Fucking hell, the way I rant about Villa and the useless morons playing for us, I've only just been conceived if the term 'childish' is being thrown around.

I can't stand most of our team. Overpaid, one paced, meek, lacking creativity and intelligence. Nowhere near enough effort, guile and providing almost fuck all in the way of excitement.

Oh well, Brighton next. They'll no doubt look like they're playing a different sport to us. Luckily for us, they don't score many. Unfortunately for us, we don't really look like scoring.

Sort it out Steven.

[Skerra]

I’ve noticed that when we are playing really crap, boring football, some people seem to blame the supporters for not creating the right atmosphere. The way I see it is that when the players come out, to that absolute shit music they play, they get a great response from the crowd. It only goes very quiet when there is really not much to shout about. The players need to give the supporters something to cheer about. It’s so difficult to get excited about anything if the ball is being played around across the back for what seems an eternity before we invariably give it away to the opposition. One shot on target throughout 90 minutes is not exactly going to get people out of their seats. In conclusion, I feel that the crowd are right behind the team when the match starts but, in my opinion, it’s up to the players to create some excitement so the supporters can continue to be vocal in their support.

[Risso]

I’ve noticed that when we are playing really crap, boring football, some people seem to blame the supporters for not creating the right atmosphere. The way I see it is that when the players come out, to that absolute shit music they play, they get a great response from the crowd. It only goes very quiet when there is really not much to shout about. The players need to give the supporters something to cheer about. It’s so difficult to get excited about anything if the ball is being played around across the back for what seems an eternity before we invariably give it away to the opposition. One shot on target throughout 90 minutes is not exactly going to get people out of their seats. In conclusion, I feel that the crowd are right behind the team when the match starts but, in my opinion, it’s up to the players to create some excitement so the supporters can continue to be vocal in their support.

There's always the cyclical argument that it's a two way street, but yeah, give the crowd something to get excited about and they'll usually respond. Lots of times I've seen a great atmosphere for the crowd and a crap performance from the team. Can't think of too many great performances and shit atmospheres (Covid lockdown period excepted of course).

[Lastfootstamper]

Well, that opening couple of minutes to take the sting out of the home crowd certainly worked.

[Percy McCarthy]

Anyone know in a narrow midfield we play mcginn on the right and Ramsey on the left, both playing on their weaker side forcing them to come inside into a congested midfield. Piss poor today.

Its really frustrating that we do this, our whole game plan seems like its set up to crowd the middle.

I think it is to get it forward to Cash so he can pass it to an opposition defender.

I’m not sure I’d describe McGinn’s current position as midfield. He’s effectively an Inside full-back in this strange system we’re playing.

Yeah, not a fan of this system at all. Effectively the full-backs are wingers and the two outside midfielders are full-backs. How about playing full-backs as full-backs and wingers as wingers? It might catch on.

[Skerra]

What a contrast, watching the Leeds match. On a really difficult pitch, both teams are giving it their all which is also keeping the crowd going. Leeds made 2 changes at half time and pulled back their two goal deficit within 10 minutes. They are now 2-3 down but still giving everything making for a cracking match.

[Ads]

The same thing happened when we played Man United, only we didn't concede a third.

[nigel]

Why weren't we given that most obvious of penalties in the 2nd minute? It was a clear penalty in real time, it took 10 seconds to see the replay and it was even more obvious.

VAR wants burning.

Watching from North upper I have a very clear view of it and just couldn't believe the ref bottled it and VAR backed him up. I can understand the ref letting it go because it was too early in the game and he wasn't totally concentrating but VAR?

I’m North Upper, too, have to be honest and say I thought their player got a toe on the ball (haven’t seen any tv coverage to confirm this or not)
That said, anywhere else on the pitch and it’s a foul, toe on the ball or not.

Let’s face it, though, even if the ref had given the penalty VAR would have ruled it out after 5 minutes of scrutiny and line drawing.

[Toronto Villa]

Watford have done the double over us sums up this shithouse of a season.

You could make the argument that two of our worst performances independently and collectively easily the worst over two games have come against a side that in all likelihood will be relegated. Only Aston Villa

[eamonn]

Watford and Newcastle were absolute shithouses/experts in rotational  "pretend that you've been fouled and injured", taking the sting out of the game and stopping any momentum we were trying to build-up. This happened at 0-0 and the stop-start nature was not conducive to our laborious build-ups.

Another obvious thing is our complete lack of athleticism - Watford's dangerous players are all tall, fast, lean and able to brush-off challenges.
In these traits alone, you can see why we were after Bissouma. McGinn and Luiz, Sanson and even Ramsey to a lesser extent, tend to get physically dominated and lose-out on 50/50s. We have a lot of work to do in terms of "recruitment" and coaching to get where the club wants to go.

[coreyfeldman]

Watford and Newcastle were absolute shithouses/experts in rotational  "pretend that you've been fouled and injured", taking the sting out of the game and stopping any momentum we were trying to build-up. This happened at 0-0 and the stop-start nature was not conducive to our laborious build-ups.

Another obvious thing is our complete lack of athleticism - Watford's dangerous players are all tall, fast, lean and able to brush-off challenges.
In these traits alone, you can see why we were after Bissouma. McGinn and Luiz, Sanson and even Ramsey to a lesser extent, tend to get physically dominated and lose-out on 50/50s. We have a lot of work to do in terms of "recruitment" and coaching to get where the club wants to go.

What's a Sanson?