Aston Villa 0 Watford 1 Post Match Thread

[charleeco7]

Anyone know in a narrow midfield we play mcginn on the right and Ramsey on the left, both playing on their weaker side forcing them to come inside into a congested midfield. Piss poor today.

[BC Villain]

On the way to the match I said to my brother that I thought we would struggle again today.
Young coming on as a sub was a total mystery. The shape of the team just looks all wrong. I suggest SG looks at videos of the first few games he was in charge and revert to whatever he was asking the players to do then and not what they are doing now. Until we get to at least 36 points, I won’t feel comfortable about us not being dragged into a relegation battle. At this moment in time, sadly, I can’t see where our next point is coming from.

Look at the last four games.

Everton
Leeds
Newcastle
Watford

We had to be picking up a minimum 10 points out of them.  Yet we've got 4, which 3 of those coming before we had a "mini preseason".  And we were very fortunate to beat Everton.

If this team gets sucked into trouble,  I struggle to see these players having the stomach for it on the evidence I've seen in the last two games.



 

[LukeJames]

Anyone know in a narrow midfield we play mcginn on the right and Ramsey on the left, both playing on their weaker side forcing them to come inside into a congested midfield. Piss poor today.

Its really frustrating that we do this, our whole game plan seems like its set up to crowd the middle.

[Legion]

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/aston-villa/12546338/aston-villa-0-1-watford-premier-league-highlights

[TonyD]

Anyone know in a narrow midfield we play mcginn on the right and Ramsey on the left, both playing on their weaker side forcing them to come inside into a congested midfield. Piss poor today.

Its really frustrating that we do this, our whole game plan seems like its set up to crowd the middle.

I think it is to get it forward to Cash so he can pass it to an opposition defender.

[LeonW]

That defeat is entirely on Gerrard. The threatened changes amounted to Ings for Watkins, Luiz not being allowed on set pieces and a ‘put more of an aggressive effort in lads’ attitude. Wow. It was the same old story of Mcginn dropping into that the inside right area of midfield and giving the ball away. Luiz being totally uninvolved in the game. The opposition allowing the ball to go to our full backs and then counter attacking down our flanks in those massive gaps. It’s entirely predictable, even for sides with much more limited resources to outwit. Gerrard has shown that he has learnt nothing from the past few games or done nothing to change the same problems we’ve had. We are going nowhere. Expect no changes to this approach for next week.

[BC Villain]

That defeat is entirely on Gerrard. The threatened changes amounted to Ings for Watkins, Luiz not being allowed on set pieces and a ‘put more of an aggressive effort in lads’ attitude. Wow. It was the same old story of Mcginn dropping into that the inside right area of midfield and giving the ball away. Luiz being totally uninvolved in the game. The opposition allowing the ball to go to our full backs and then counter attacking down our flanks in those massive gaps. It’s entirely predictable, even for sides with much more limited resources to outwit. Gerrard has shown that he has learnt nothing from the past few games or done nothing to change the same problems we’ve had. We are going nowhere. Expect no changes to this approach for next week.

Next week will be horrific.  Brighton will just pass us to death

[Morleys left boot]

So, two hours later still totally pissed off
How the hell do we let Watford do the double over us after all the money we have spent
We can blame the manager but my God where has the pride gone when pulling on a Villa shirt my answer is this if you can't  handle it or you don't care please fuck off  and play for someone else ! Because I have supported us for over 50 years and our
squad has never been so full of international players and still so much bildge is served up
Another weekend ruined

[Lastfootstamper]

At one point I spent a good four or five seconds scanning the pitch to find Luiz. He wasn't where I thought he should be, given the passage of play that had just then occurred.

[Nii Lamptey]

For all the vitriol on here, I don’t think we were anywhere near as bad as last week. but the second Watkins came on, Ings disappeared…. which was a shame as I thought Ings played well first half and looked like something resembling a goal scorer.

My biggest issue with Gerrard is his persistence with this tried and trusted formation he had at Rangers. We clearly don’t have the personnel to play that way, it’s too gung-ho without defensive cover and leaving our centre backs totally exposed.
He needs to stop the rot fast…. Konsa back next week, so stick Chambers at DM in for Doug Luis, Sanson in for McGinn, and stick with Ings up front, as there was a spark and intelligence between him and Coutinho/Buendia.

[Lsvilla]

For all the vitriol on here, I don’t think we were anywhere near as bad as last week. but the second Watkins came on, Ings disappeared…. which was a shame as I thought Ings played well first half and looked like something resembling a goal scorer.

My biggest issue with Gerrard is his persistence with this tried and trusted formation he had at Rangers. We clearly don’t have the personnel to play that way, it’s too gung-ho without defensive cover and leaving our centre backs totally exposed.
He needs to stop the rot fast…. Konsa back next week, so stick Chambers at DM in for Doug Luis, Sanson in for McGinn, and stick with Ings up front, as there was a spark and intelligence between him and Coutinho/Buendia.

I see it this way too.

[Villan82]

13 defeats. I don't understand what's happened to the generally solid spine of last season.

We lost too many last year and the year before. Blue in the teeth saying we need to be harder to beat. We lose too many games and come away, too often, with a big fat zero points.

[Beard82]

For all the vitriol on here, I don’t think we were anywhere near as bad as last week. but the second Watkins came on, Ings disappeared…. which was a shame as I thought Ings played well first half and looked like something resembling a goal scorer.

My biggest issue with Gerrard is his persistence with this tried and trusted formation he had at Rangers. We clearly don’t have the personnel to play that way, it’s too gung-ho without defensive cover and leaving our centre backs totally exposed.
He needs to stop the rot fast…. Konsa back next week, so stick Chambers at DM in for Doug Luis, Sanson in for McGinn, and stick with Ings up front, as there was a spark and intelligence between him and Coutinho/Buendia.

I see it this way too.

Yeah agreed. 

[olaftab]

No please do not stick Chambers in the defensive midfield role. His lack of movement will expose us totally.

[DeKuip]

Anyone know in a narrow midfield we play mcginn on the right and Ramsey on the left, both playing on their weaker side forcing them to come inside into a congested midfield. Piss poor today.

Its really frustrating that we do this, our whole game plan seems like its set up to crowd the middle.

I think it is to get it forward to Cash so he can pass it to an opposition defender.

I’m not sure I’d describe McGinn’s current position as midfield. He’s effectively an Inside full-back in this strange system we’re playing.