Newcastle v Villa Post Match Thread

[Astnor]

1. half they had tempo and fight, we hadnt, lost tackles and second ball and lost the game there. 2. half after watkins of course offside goal they destroyed the game to win it and hadnt much problem with that. Lack of tempo was the same against leeds. Cuothino is at what he does a class above any player at Villa, newcastle or leeds but the brazilian tempo and ballcontrol that may suit luiz and bunedia (and ings) isnt something most other of our players can match and shift our game in that direction, I think. I still have belief in Gerrard, the palyers he had brought in looks good. I dont think Mings , Cash  and watkins are the future; our playing together and attacks breaks down more often than not when they get the ball, especially  cash; head down and a stragiht ahead thundershot that get blocked or end up in the stand (why dont they coach him ?). I think Leeds did look pretty good, Newcastle didnt. I hope for a bit above midtable this season now, shift some players in the summer and go for top 4 next season - we have the potential (some already)

[ChicagoLion]

No as I was watching the game, but everytime the ball went down that side he caught the eye as he was striding about.

He had a bit of a lie down at the end.

[BC Villain]

Fooking shite today. 

Cash - useless
McGinn - terrible
Watkins - get rid
Luiz - offers nothing

McGinn has been appalling for weeks now.  The fact that we've spent about £300 million in the last three years and he's still an automatic starter when available is a poor reflection on the quality of players that we've brought in that time.

[Proposition Joe]

You cannot excuse that first half. Nobody played well, but it was just so pedestrian and passive. We must have checked back in to pass back to the centre half time and time again.

Watkins was being completely bullied by a total donkey like Burn, who in fairness was absolutely desperate to wear his shirt.

It really was up there with some of the worst we've seen in a first half this season.

Second half we were improved box to box. When we did move the ball quickly, we found acres of space and looked effective up to the box.

The delivery wasn't good enough, the forwards offered no credible threat and was all a bit huff a puff. We didn't create anywhere near enough.

Watkins, McGinn and Luiz were the worst of the bunch and they have been for weeks. I don't want to see any of them anywhere near the side in the next few games and all 3 should be replaced in the summer if our aspirations exceed inconsistent midtable.

Given how poor Leeds were against Everton and how tepid we were, I wonder if the basketball game on Wednesday sapped energy. The squad is there.

The opposition today were dreadful, offered nothing and we've been beaten without complaint ad we did fuck all ourselves.

In defence of Luiz, hasn't he basically been playing without a rest since the start of last season?

[ChicagoLion]

You cannot excuse that first half. Nobody played well, but it was just so pedestrian and passive. We must have checked back in to pass back to the centre half time and time again.

Watkins was being completely bullied by a total donkey like Burn, who in fairness was absolutely desperate to wear his shirt.

It really was up there with some of the worst we've seen in a first half this season.

Second half we were improved box to box. When we did move the ball quickly, we found acres of space and looked effective up to the box.

The delivery wasn't good enough, the forwards offered no credible threat and was all a bit huff a puff. We didn't create anywhere near enough.

Watkins, McGinn and Luiz were the worst of the bunch and they have been for weeks. I don't want to see any of them anywhere near the side in the next few games and all 3 should be replaced in the summer if our aspirations exceed inconsistent midtable.

Given how poor Leeds were against Everton and how tepid we were, I wonder if the basketball game on Wednesday sapped energy. The squad is there.

The opposition today were dreadful, offered nothing and we've been beaten without complaint ad we did fuck all ourselves.

In defence of Luiz, hasn't he basically been playing without a rest since the start of last season?

Then give him a rest

[nick harper]

The passiveness in the first half was inexcusable. Barely able to string two passes together, losing 50/50s. Different players, same DNA we’ve had for years.

Depressingly predictable performance.

[amfy]

Thought Chambers was very average at the back aswell, would've played him as DM today tbh as Doug seems to have mentally checked out of the club.

He's in love with a bisexual Villan. Understandable if his head is all over the place.

What the fuck has someone’s sexuality to do about anything?

He's on about Luiz's girlfriend who is very attractive and also bisexual.

....and as he said - what has her sexuality got to do with anything?

[Small Rodent]

Thought Chambers was very average at the back aswell, would've played him as DM today tbh as Doug seems to have mentally checked out of the club.

He's in love with a bisexual Villan. Understandable if his head is all over the place.

What the fuck has someone’s sexuality to do about anything?

He's on about Luiz's girlfriend who is very attractive and also bisexual.

I know.

So why is it a reason for him playing badly?

I guess it’s laddish “nudge nudge” stuff.

[Proposition Joe]

The passiveness in the first half was inexcusable. Barely able to string two passes together, losing 50/50s. Different players, same DNA we’ve had for years.

Depressingly predictable performance.

Yes. Managers, owners, players l. It makes no difference. Villa just be Villa.

[Ads]

Thought Chambers was very average at the back aswell, would've played him as DM today tbh as Doug seems to have mentally checked out of the club.

He's in love with a bisexual Villan. Understandable if his head is all over the place.

What the fuck has someone’s sexuality to do about anything?

He's on about Luiz's girlfriend who is very attractive and also bisexual.

....and as he said - what has her sexuality got to do with anything?

Men like girls who also are into girls too is what he's suggesting.

[coreyfeldman]

Thought Chambers was very average at the back aswell, would've played him as DM today tbh as Doug seems to have mentally checked out of the club.

He's in love with a bisexual Villan. Understandable if his head is all over the place.

What the fuck has someone’s sexuality to do about anything?

He's on about Luiz's girlfriend who is very attractive and also bisexual.

Again, what the hell does that have to do with the game in any way at all. Childish nonsense

[DrGonzo]

Holding midfielder please.

[Ads]

Thought Chambers was very average at the back aswell, would've played him as DM today tbh as Doug seems to have mentally checked out of the club.

He's in love with a bisexual Villan. Understandable if his head is all over the place.

What the fuck has someone’s sexuality to do about anything?

He's on about Luiz's girlfriend who is very attractive and also bisexual.

Again, what the hell does that have to do with the game in any way at all. Childish nonsense

I dont know, ask him. I presume the suggestion is that he's got his sex life on the brain.

I'd like the subs bench to be in contact with his arse for the foreseeable.

[Meanwood Villa]

Thought Chambers was very average at the back aswell, would've played him as DM today tbh as Doug seems to have mentally checked out of the club.

He's in love with a bisexual Villan. Understandable if his head is all over the place.

What the fuck has someone’s sexuality to do about anything?

He's on about Luiz's girlfriend who is very attractive and also bisexual.

....and as he said - what has her sexuality got to do with anything?

Men like girls who also are into girls too is what he's suggesting.

It sounds to me like he was after a laugh pointing out someone is gay. Bantz.

[Cropley10]

I think Gerrard has seen enough (as we all have) to see where our problems lie.
Let's see how he addresses things in the summer now.
A high quality defensive mid is the priority (still) and for me Mings should be replaced.
Ollie's inability to hold the ball up isa  real worry in this system----this was the main problem with today's performance and the reason why the man of the match was a 6ft 5in stopper on his debut!