Michael Oliver v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[sickbeggar]

It doesn't really matter does it. It wasn't a clear and obvious error - the whole point of VAR - to cut out the complete fecks up by refs. Instead its become an entertainment device like dry ice.

[Risso]

I'm excited for Buendia and Countinho playing behind Ollie.

I actually think that Ings and Buendia are on a better wavelength.

Me too. Watkins couldn't finish his dinner at the moment.

[baddowvillans]

Just watched Gerrards post match interview where I was again impressed by the way he addressed things.  Refused to focus on VAR and instead looked at what we could have done better.  That's the kind of manager I want at the club and I believe will take us forward.

[Risso]

That ruling and the way it was applied last night surely goes against the ruling that went against us at Manchester City a while back.

Just a little bit! As I said last night, any time we give away a free kick, if there's an opposition player who is at any point in an offside position, all we need to do now is have a player deliberately run into him and fall over, giving us a free kick.

[sickbeggar]

It comes back to the Schmeical bobbins. A 'keeper could sit there with his palm on the ball, in play for 90 minutes - he's not wasting time and he's in control of the ball.

Likewise if Ramsey is offside, then what would have happened if they had given it? IT WASN'T A CLEAR AND OBVIOUS ERROR BY THE REF, YOU DOLTS"

Their own little Catch 22 - Josepth Heller would be proud.

[Dante Lavelli]

I'm excited for Buendia and Countinho playing behind Ollie.

I actually think that Ings and Buendia are on a better wavelength.

Me too. Watkins couldn't finish his dinner at the moment.

Ings and Buendia do appear to have struck up at connection.  However just Ings up top and I fear you’ll have very little pressing, pace and zero options down the channels.  One thing for sure is Ings and Watkins is not developing as a partnership, so better to rotate them.

[Beard82]

It doesn't really matter does it. It wasn't a clear and obvious error - the whole point of VAR - to cut out the complete fecks up by refs. Instead its become an entertainment device like dry ice.

Im not sure if that is a fair comparison

One leaves a bad taste in your mouth, and can be misused to obscure multiple sins by unscrupulous people

The other was popular in nightclubs

[sickbeggar]

It doesn't really matter does it. It wasn't a clear and obvious error - the whole point of VAR - to cut out the complete fecks up by refs. Instead its become an entertainment device like dry ice.

Im not sure if that is a fair comparison

One leaves a bad taste in your mouth, and can be misused to obscure multiple sins by unscrupulous people

The other was popular in nightclubs

heh, point taken, but its just part of the showbiz sparkle for the neutrals. - you might as well have Shaw breaking a fake chair over Konsa's head.

[Bobby Boy]

I would normally calm down by now but I'm still seething about last nights travesty. I thought at the time Ings was offside but this has been cleared up. He wasn't. Cavani ran straight into Ramsey and got the free kick. Complete bullshit. If Ramsey deliberately body checked him then surely that should have been a second yellow for him and he should have been sent off. But that slimey bastard Oliver stopped short of that thus avoiding further scrutiny as Villa would have appealed the decision. The whole thing stinks.

You know I wasn't looking forward to the game last night, not because I thought we'd lose but because I felt sure that some scandalous, game changing decision would be made against us.

This isn't true of any other team. That really isn't right.

I will feel the same on Saturday. Man Utd get decisions against us routinely, game after game, that smell to high heaven.

I genuinely don't want to get into a paranoid, conspiracy fearing headspace but years of this nonsense has got me there.

[sickbeggar]

If you had to keep VAR (and it should be dumped in a landfill imo) then the obvious solution is taking away its use by the same people who gave us Fergie time before VAR. And that is never gonna happen.

[Jon Crofts]

I wonder how much money was gambled on a 50:50 decision across Asia last night in that 3 minute 40 second gambling window?

Best league in the world.

[Monty]

If you had to keep VAR (and it should be dumped in a landfill imo) then the obvious solution is taking away its use by the same people who gave us Fergie time before VAR. And that is never gonna happen.

Honestly just give it to random neutral fans, who sit there in Stockley Park with a copy of the rules. At least we'd get some bias against the twats for once.

[darren woolley]

I hate Manure and the way the refs pander to there every whim how much time does it take VAR to make a decision over three minutes that's too long.

[Jon Crofts]

It's the veil of secrecy around the whole thing, in rugby you have Ref Link, every word the referee utters can be heard by the fans and the TV broadcasters, when a decision goes to TMO (VAR) every word of the exchange is broadcast. Why isn't this happening in football?

[Monty]

It's the veil of secrecy around the whole thing, in rugby you have Ref Link, every word the referee utters can be heard by the fans and the TV broadcasters, when a decision goes to TMO (VAR) every word of the exchange is broadcast. Why isn't this happening in football?

Because it wouldn't look good to hear Michael Oliver saying 'hang on, be patient, I'm sure we'll find something'.