Brentford 2 v Aston Villa 1 Post Match Thread

[clash city rocker]

Let's be brutally honest. With the players we have we are a mid table team. We arent going to win anything but  just hope we dont get dragged into the relegation fight.

[ChicagoLion]

Poor. Big calls for Gerrard to make coming up.

Targett
Luiz
Hause
Traore

Not good enough if we aim to be a top half side.

Add Trez and el Ghazi to that list.

Absolutely. I was just going off the ones he deemed good enough to start today.

Cash is also not quite good enough.

I agree Cash should be in that list.

[villadelph]

Okay, so if I’m reading this post-match thread correctly..

OUT
Target
Cash
Hause
Trezeguet
Traore
El Ghazi
Luiz

Some of you need to get a grip.

[john e]

Let's be brutally honest. With the players we have we are a mid table team. We arent going to win anything but  just hope we dont get dragged into the relegation fight.

Yeah but you can be mid table bottom half or mid table top half you’re probably talking about half a dozen places at least
With the players we have we shouldn’t be losing to Brentford or be below them in the table

[john2710]

We were comfortably the better team, without creating much. We got slower as the game went on. They played to keep it tight & caught us on the turnover when we got sloppy.

It’s a sickening to lose to this shite & we’ve been like it for too long. Plucky losers to the top sides & unlucky losers to shite sides.

Gerrard will be learning more about players as we go along. Much of the squad aren’t good enough or are not the right fit for how we want to play. It’s going to take a few transfer windows to correct the squad. It’ll be interesting to see where he starts.

[PaulTheVillan]

Okay, so if I’m reading this post-match thread correctly..

OUT
Target
Cash
Hause
Trezeguet
Traore
El Ghazi
Luiz

Some of you need to get a grip.

If we want to be a top half team then we either coach these players to improve to that level or replace them with ones that are better.

Gerrard will want to bring his own players in as all managers do and the weakest ones are the most likely to be chopped.

[fredm]

Okay, so if I’m reading this post-match thread correctly..

OUT
Target
Cash
Hause
Trezeguet
Traore
El Ghazi
Luiz

Some of you need to get a grip.

I think the question is are these the players that will take AVFC onto a European challenging spot? I think on what we saw today the answer is no.

[KevinGage]

Targett was good last season, and has looked good for most of Gerrard's first few games.  But if LB is an area we've targeted for competition at least, he's done himself no favours with the last two performances.

Luiz reads the game well when he's on it, snubs out danger and has an almost McGrath-esque coolness about him when the mood takes.  But too causal in possession for a DM.

Traore still rusty after a long lay off.

For me the biggest area to address is still up top.  We need a different type of forward to the ones we currently possess; either a genuine speed merchant who can find the gaps in behind. Or a Carew or Benteke-type, who can hold the ball up and give centre halves a different problem from the bench.

After a bright hour or so, Ings faded badly in the second half.

[Flamingo Lane]

I'm mystified as to why Traore wasn't hooked until the 80th minute or thereabouts; and as to why Trez was given the 15 or so minutes as a sub, especially when he's about to go away to the Afcon Cup.  I can only assume that El Ghazi is on his way out to another club, if it's West Ham I'd be concerned, as they must then think they can make a proper player out of him (just as they have with the likes of Benrahma and Bowen).

On the whole that really was a terrible result against an average team that actually played quite badly.

[RichardBatchelor]

I don’t like Brentford remind me of Wimbledon

But today’s result was all of our own doing
We can have no excuses

When Trez went down in the box at the end I said to my young lad oooh VAR will look at that You never know
Then when it was showed on the replay we both just shook our heads in total fucking embarrassment

I like Brentford - they have EVERY RIGHT to play like they do given their resources, just as we would if we did that versus against the top 3. We were just too wet (and now the dust has settled, a bit unlucky) do deal with them and their 12th man of a crowd, who it’s hard to deny make a right racket. Really soft-arsed defeat that, but given our record there utterly predictable.

[TonyD]

Okay, so if I’m reading this post-match thread correctly..

OUT
Target
Cash
Hause
Trezeguet
Traore
El Ghazi
Luiz

Some of you need to get a grip.

I think the question is are these the players that will take AVFC onto a European challenging spot? I think on what we saw today the answer is no.

Luiz is good enough. 
Cash Targett and Hause keep for squad players
The rest can go. 

[ChicagoLion]

Okay, so if I’m reading this post-match thread correctly..

OUT
Target
Cash
Hause
Trezeguet
Traore
El Ghazi
Luiz

Some of you need to get a grip.

They are at best mid level Premier League players.

[Astnor]

Poor. Big calls for Gerrard to make coming up.

Targett
Luiz
Hause
Traore

Not good enough if we aim to be a top half side.

Add Trez and el Ghazi to that list.

Absolutely. I was just going off the ones he deemed good enough to start today.

Cash is also not quite good enough.

I quite like Cash. I think he’s been unlucky that whoever has played in front of him have been awful at helping him out.

I think Luiz is one of our very best players.
Hause is good enough to be a useful back up and BTW seems to be a very likeable character.
Trez, E Ghazi, Targett and Cash (was hopeful about him when he arrived) hasent showed enough potential to be in the top team we are aiming to be IMO
Bert might be one coming off the bench when we need a trick / goal

[Bobby Boy]

Okay, so if I’m reading this post-match thread correctly..

OUT
Target
Cash
Hause
Trezeguet
Traore
El Ghazi
Luiz

Some of you need to get a grip.

Upgraded? Absolutely yes. And this will happen.

Check out our first eleven after the next 3 or 4 transfer windows and it will be clear.

[villadelph]

Okay, so if I’m reading this post-match thread correctly..

OUT
Target
Cash
Hause
Trezeguet
Traore
El Ghazi
Luiz

Some of you need to get a grip.

I think the question is are these the players that will take AVFC onto a European challenging spot? I think on what we saw today the answer is no.

We had been doing quite well over our last 6 league games with the same group of players. No one was complaining after our away win at Old Trafford, or our impressive win again Leicester.

Like, come on guys. This is football. We shouldn’t be throwing some grass in the air to see which way the wind is blowing.

We were the better team today but just didn’t get the goals.