Aston Villa vs Chelsea Post-Match Thread

[ChicagoLion]

Please can someone explain to me:

1. What Cash thinks he is doing for the first penalty.
2. What excuse of a challenge that was by Mings for their 2nd.

I accept they are better and all that but for Christ’s sake we make it so easy for these teams at times.

Neither acceptable and Sunday morning level by both of them. Cost us any chance of anything from the match.

[KRS]

It’s frustrating watching Buendia making mistake after mistake and then having a little strop/sulk with himself. I think he has the wrong attitude and it shows on the pitch with flapping his arms around all the time.

Ings didn’t look fit and doesn’t work well with Ollie. Both of them need service to score goals and neither are creators of chances…they are finishers. We needed quality back up for Ollie last season and provide competition for places. Play one or the other…not both.

Missed most of the first half as my old man tripped and fell on the way to ground causing a nasty looking head injury. Special thanks to the stewards outside the Trinity and St John’s Ambulance for their help and making sure he was ok.

All things considered I’m not too down beat about the defeat…a loss against the top 4 teams is still expected at this stage of our development and progress under Gerrard. The Leeds game being called off is a good thing, and gives both management and players time to get back fit and on the training ground. Looking forward to 2022…onwards and upwards!

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

Ings is a good purchase-as back-up to Ollie, which we desperately needed.

We didn't sign a forward on £120k wages (which after the departure of Joe makes him our highest earner) to be backup.

He looked rusty today. Which - after a fair chunk of time out - is understandable.

He could still redeem himself with a strong second half of the season showing.  But he doesn't look a good fit at the moment.

He''s playing like he should be a good back-up only no matter what wages he is on.
Watkins is our main striker and doesn't need shafting to the left wing to accommodate Ings. If our recruitment ( eg Lange) thought this then they're wrong.
We needed decent back up for Ollie, not a replacement. Ings is decent back-up. If Villa are prepared to pay him stupid wages for that role then clearly there are some issues with management beyond the touchline and pitch.

[N'ZMAV]

Watkins is such a frustrating player. Gets into good positions but makes bad decisions more often than not.

Totally agree - at times he's like Agbonlahor, runs straight into trouble. There was times last night it looked like he had no pace whatsoever.

Other games he is excellent.

[Nunkin1965]

It’s frustrating watching Buendia making mistake after mistake and then having a little strop/sulk with himself. I think he has the wrong attitude and it shows on the pitch with flapping his arms around all the time.

Ings didn’t look fit and doesn’t work well with Ollie. Both of them need service to score goals and neither are creators of chances…they are finishers. We needed quality back up for Ollie last season and provide competition for places. Play one or the other…not both.

Missed most of the first half as my old man tripped and fell on the way to ground causing a nasty looking head injury. Special thanks to the stewards outside the Trinity and St John’s Ambulance for their help and making sure he was ok.

All things considered I’m not too down beat about the defeat…a loss against the top 4 teams is still expected at this stage of our development and progress under Gerrard. The Leeds game being called off is a good thing, and gives both management and players time to get back fit and on the training ground. Looking forward to 2022…onwards and upwards!

Hope your Dad is ok KRS.
Yes agree with loads of this and I'm getting frustrated with Buendia"s antics.
All the arm waving is pathetic and didn't he kick a water bottle when he came off which his a ball boy?
I'm sure I saw it from sitting in the Doug Ellis.

[Gareth]

Seeing plenty of criticism of most of the back four but very little about the cock up Martinez made where Mount had the easiest chance of the game. 

Defensively we were compact & sound until Cash’s brain fart…that incident led to all the back 5 making errors, 3 of which were punished.

[Goldenballs]

Please can someone explain to me:

1. What Cash thinks he is doing for the first penalty.
2. What excuse of a challenge that was by Mings for their 2nd.

I accept they are better and all that but for Christ’s sake we make it so easy for these teams at times.

Neither acceptable and Sunday morning level by both of them. Cost us any chance of anything from the match.

The Cash tackle was almost in slow motion, you could see exactly what he was going to do. Sometimes he's like a dog chasing a ball at 100mph, he needs to take a deep breath and calm down.

Mings didn't even attempt to challenge Lukaku, I could see what he was trying to do and just ease him under the ball, but good luck with that, he's a beast. Targett tried to hitch a piggy back on him and he didn't even break stride.

[Villa Lew]

One of the things yesterday did show, just how important SJM is to the team. The way he is playing he is fast becoming just as important as Grealish was last season. The Leeds postponement has done us a big favour as SJM would also have missed that match.

[simboy]

The introduction of a £100 million striker made the difference in the game. He was bought by Chelsea to win important games for them and he did. Mings didn’t cope well with the movement and villa didn’t cope well with the ball into the box.

I criticise Cash for his delivery into the penalty area most games, as I do Targett. For a converted winger Cash, in particular should do better.

 Defensively, they’re typical Premiership fullbacks, mobile but nowhere near in the defensive class of Gidman, Swain, Staunton and Robson, but ok.

Chelsea earlier in the season was the first game Smith played three at the back, I suspect principally to counter the ex Olbyion loanee. Hause is better in the air than Mings against a strong aggressive centre forward.

Yesterday showed how far we have to go. The outline is there but we have to fill in the rest. Upgrades on a number of players required.

A free hit yesterday but we need to keep beating the teams around us. We are becoming a decent counterattacking team but this game showed we’ve still a long long way to go.

[Clampy]

I thought we were decent first half and played some very nice stuff at times. Second half, not so good and at the end of the day, we didn't test their keeper anywhere near enough.

[rooboy316]

I thought Traoré showed fuck all. However, this is to be expected when coming back from injury.

If this is your biggest issue with today's performance, then maybe football's not for you.

Well said!

Err it’s a comment on a player’s performance in the match, on the post match thread. Not sure where it says it was the biggest issue today?

[Mister E]

Watkins is such a frustrating player. Gets into good positions but makes bad decisions more often than not.

He never seems to look up to see if there are better options around him other than to just blast a shot and hope for the best. Until he gets this sorted and part of his game then he will remain just an average striker.

Spot on.
That's why he's better as the attacking focus point: he's in more positions where he can take it on and shoot rather than have to think about those around him. He's a decent player; probably not a top-four player.
Ings is, unfortunately, not working.
Mings always seems to be bullied by the aggressive front-lump (he is, you'll recall, someone who got bullied by Joelinton, after all).
Sanson does look likely to be a player but still lacks match-fitness.

[RichardBatchelor]

Sodding foreign wanker.

Oh dear

Unnecessary adjective. He's just a wanker .

No need for the UKIP nonsense but Tuchel's so massively massively out of order claiming 'it's not fair' with the squad he has. What planet is he living on? Trying going to manage Norwich or Burnley, mate.

[Nunkin1965]

Sodding foreign wanker.

Oh dear

Unnecessary adjective. He's just a wanker .

No need for the UKIP nonsense but Tuchel's so massively massively out of order claiming 'it's not fair' with the squad he has. What planet is he living on? Trying going to manage Norwich or Burnley, mate.

I don't know what's in this guys mind.
He's basically got two squads to pick from and so many options to choose from.

[Ads]

Tuchel looks like Tony Pullis reanimated corpse, the whinging fuck. Woe is me, bringing on a £97m player.

Absolute throbber.