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Offline Smirker

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #120 on: December 11, 2021, 06:59:44 PM »
Watkins is miles better, even when he doesn't score he contributes so much.

Ings is a good backup.

Watkins for me.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #121 on: December 11, 2021, 09:20:04 PM »
Watkins is miles better, even when he doesn't score he contributes so much.

Ings is a good backup.

Watkins for me.



I absolutely agree with you. However, I thought today his pressing and movement off the ball were quite poor. We definitely needed to get higher up the pitch after they scored and we needed him to do that by starting the press.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #122 on: December 11, 2021, 10:20:18 PM »
My Daughters fiancé knows the family. There is talk that he may not play again. That's all I know.



That is some recovery from Ings to come back from a possible career ending injury so quickly.

They probably meant Monopoly.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #123 on: December 12, 2021, 07:29:19 AM »
My Daughters fiancé knows the family. There is talk that he may not play again. That's all I know.



That is some recovery from Ings to come back from a possible career ending injury so quickly.

At least Andy now knows that his daughter’s fiancé is a wrong un.

Offline Andy Poole

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #124 on: December 13, 2021, 04:24:03 PM »
My Daughters fiancé knows the family. There is talk that he may not play again. That's all I know.



That is some recovery from Ings to come back from a possible career ending injury so quickly.

At least Andy now knows that his daughter’s fiancé is a wrong un.

He is. I know that already. He does know the Ings though, as well as a few others. He and his Dad have played for saints at low level. He has a box there too.  He's the sort of bloke who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Offline Scott Nielsen

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #125 on: December 15, 2021, 02:23:45 AM »
Gerrard said in the post-match interview we need both Watkins and Ings firing to get us to where we want to be. No argument with that. Solving that riddle won't be easy though.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #126 on: December 15, 2021, 10:16:16 AM »
There’s no riddle to solve. Watkins is first choice, a goal and an assist last night. If Ings wants to be in the team he’ll have to take up one of the wide forward positions, I’m heartily sick of Watkins being pushed wide to accommodate Ings being bought on. If  Ings can only be bought on to play in the spearhead role then for me it shows his limitations as a player. He’s a clinical finisher, probably more so than Ollie but he’s looking like a square peg in this squad currently.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #127 on: December 15, 2021, 10:19:12 AM »
Gerrard said in the post-match interview we need both Watkins and Ings firing to get us to where we want to be. No argument with that. Solving that riddle won't be easy though.
exactly, although I do not think it is as big a problem.
If all 3 forwards interchange as you saw after Ings came on and Ollie got his goal coming in from the right.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #128 on: December 15, 2021, 10:24:43 AM »
Trying to get Ings in the team with Ollie Watkins reminds a bit of Brian Little trying to accommodate Stan Collymore in a team with Dwight Yorke and Savo Milosevic. We lost something from Yorke by moving him to midfield and we lose something from Ollie when he is moved wide.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #129 on: December 15, 2021, 10:27:54 AM »
Ings plays on the shoulder, one of the best around, Watkins is by far the better with his back to goal (despite some unstickability in his last couple of performances). For how we play now, it's got to be Watkins at CF.

Although I also think that if we went with Ings there, the player most likely to feed him what he loves is Watkins.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #130 on: December 15, 2021, 10:52:48 AM »
I still think they can and will be effective together in a three.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #131 on: December 15, 2021, 11:13:48 AM »
Hopefully Watkins scoring will inject some confidence into him, as I thought he was our least effective player last night. He seemed to lose the ball an awful lot and always seemed to make the wrong decision, which more often than not consisted of firing the ball into a defender's legs to see it ping away to safety.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #132 on: December 15, 2021, 01:13:49 PM »
Ollie clearly does not relish going out wide.

Ings just looks a yard slow and out of place to me. I'd take our money back on him tomorrow.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #133 on: December 15, 2021, 01:14:00 PM »
Trying to get Ings in the team with Ollie Watkins reminds a bit of Brian Little trying to accommodate Stan Collymore in a team with Dwight Yorke and Savo Milosevic. We lost something from Yorke by moving him to midfield and we lose something from Ollie when he is moved wide.

Yes I think Gerard has established moving Watkins out wide is counter productive.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #134 on: December 15, 2021, 01:17:03 PM »
Although it did lead to him scoring last night, when he was further forward than the more central Ings.

 


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