Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[Beard82]

I think gerrard will be massively motivated which feels me with abit of confidence.  I like that he is a tough charchter and he will command respect and will get it because of his huge name in the game.

I think despite what people might think of him attract a high calibre of player to the club. I do think there are some positives to this move but without question a huge gamble

About where I am. I am open minded on it, I don't think it lacks ambition in the boards mind. In their background checks etc, I am fairly sure they will have wanted a high profile manager with the potential to kick on. Gerrard has the drive and potential to do well, and is not stupid. He talks about his coaching staff at length in the articles I have read, it is clear we need to ensure we get the right team around him, but I look forward to him doing well.

We needed to ensure that Dean had the right team around him, arguably, and based on the last 4 months that went and was replaced with poor replacements

[ozzjim]

Monty agree they are not common, but Cruyff, Ancellotti, Guardiola, Zidane, Deschamps, Simeone, Dalglish etc were all very successful players and went on to be successful managers. I accept it's not the norm, but it doesn't mean Gerrard can't go on to be an elite level manager.

[Mister E]

Grauniad has the Gerrard story as its splash this morning:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/09/aston-villa-want-steven-gerrard-next-manager-plan-rangers-approach

I'm not a fan of his appointment - were it to happen - but to say it lacks ambition is a bit disingenuous. He will, I think, be totally pumped to succeed and has a backroom team to make a strong case that he will do alright.
As a 2 or 3 year appointment, it may work out well for all concerned.

And that's all it would be. An appointment with built-in impermanence.
A motorway service station stop on the way to the real destination.
Is that where we're at?

Yes: we're on a journey so, of course, it has (like all managerial appointments) an built-in impermanence.

[ozzjim]

I think gerrard will be massively motivated which feels me with abit of confidence.  I like that he is a tough charchter and he will command respect and will get it because of his huge name in the game.

I think despite what people might think of him attract a high calibre of player to the club. I do think there are some positives to this move but without question a huge gamble

About where I am. I am open minded on it, I don't think it lacks ambition in the boards mind. In their background checks etc, I am fairly sure they will have wanted a high profile manager with the potential to kick on. Gerrard has the drive and potential to do well, and is not stupid. He talks about his coaching staff at length in the articles I have read, it is clear we need to ensure we get the right team around him, but I look forward to him doing well.

We needed to ensure that Dean had the right team around him, arguably, and based on the last 4 months that went and was replaced with poor replacements

Agree completely. But no one knows what happened this summer beyond Dean and Lange I suspect. It was a shit show, and should be a lesson to the board.

[Scott Nielsen]

How often is it that a great player, especially one whose game was based on explosive individual quality, make a great manager? Maradona? Bryan Robson? Roy Keane? Being born a horse doesn't make you a jockey.

Face it, even if it works out it's a faintly embarrassing appointment, based on being impressed by fame and connections with another club. Not great reasoning for a club with apparently greater ambitions than making headlines from the middle of the Championship.

But there must be more to it, surely. Even if the assumption Purslow is star-struck is true, he still has to convince both owners this is the right move for the club. Are we then saying our owners either don't ask any questions about a very large investment of theirs or is the inference they are gullible idiots?

[KRS]

I really do hope this Gerrard coverage is a smoke screen for business being done behind the scenes. Our owners already have a record of conducting business out of the media eye (wasn’t DS also a left field appointment at the time?), so hopefully they are considering or are making moves for other managers such as ten Hag, Favre or Fonseca. Gerrard may carry a big name as a player but he’s not a big name manager by any stretch of the imagination.

[ROBBO]

Apart from the usual rumours in the press is there any reliable source that says it will be Gerrard?

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

Grauniad has the Gerrard story as its splash this morning:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/09/aston-villa-want-steven-gerrard-next-manager-plan-rangers-approach

I'm not a fan of his appointment - were it to happen - but to say it lacks ambition is a bit disingenuous. He will, I think, be totally pumped to succeed and has a backroom team to make a strong case that he will do alright.
As a 2 or 3 year appointment, it may work out well for all concerned.

If the managers drive is to manage Liverpool, he will certainly give it his all and I’d say he would have to have some kind of success over 3 years or so. Most managers shelf life these days seems to be that length of time anyway, so one way of looking at this is both us and he will have had a great period.

If we end up with a cup along the way and he moves on if accept that. After all the same may happen with any manager, especially the older more proven ones.

I’m intrigued by the bit in bold. What kind of success did Lampard have before becoming chelski’s manager?
I don’t think it’s a given that liverpool’s next manager (sg) has to be successful at Villa. They’ll spin it that he was a legend there and Villa was a learning curve and he’ll have “better” players to choose from and their “structure” is better and he was unappreciated by Villa fans and, and, and...and he’ll get a free pass no matter what.
Poor from Villa if this happens!

[john e]

We had this with Grealish though didn’t we
We all knew more than the papers and the media he was staying because of this this and this and there was no reliable source to suggest otherwise

In the end he fucked off they were right
In the end Gerard will be the next for the manager if he wants it

[Small Rodent]

Apart from the usual rumours in the press is there any reliable source that says it will be Gerrard?

Not that I’ve heard.

These multiple threads are reminding me of a friend  down the pub who every week has a near meltdown about something that hasn’t happened yet and how he’s going to deal with it. It rarely happens. And the next week it’s something else.

I’m reserving my energy.

[Beard82]

How often is it that a great player, especially one whose game was based on explosive individual quality, make a great manager? Maradona? Bryan Robson? Roy Keane? Being born a horse doesn't make you a jockey.

Face it, even if it works out it's a faintly embarrassing appointment, based on being impressed by fame and connections with another club. Not great reasoning for a club with apparently greater ambitions than making headlines from the middle of the Championship.

But there must be more to it, surely. Even if the assumption Purslow is star-struck is true, he still has to convince both owners this is the right move for the club. Are we then saying our owners either don't ask any questions about a very large investment of theirs or is the inference they are gullible idiots?

Yea your right - my impression has been though they let people do there jobs so will back CPs recommendation if they get the right assurances.

It may be that there is a genuine believe that he has the qualities we need at the moment - at the end of the day they know what’s happening behind the scenes. 

It feels like a massive gamble to me - but maybe they will prove us wrong and this turns out to be an amazing appointment.

I think this must mean I am now entering into the acceptance phase of my grief

[Duncan Shaw]

Apart from the usual rumours in the press is there any reliable source that says it will be Gerrard?

John Percy is reporting it this morning, he is normally pretty good.

[WarszaVillan]

He wouldn't be my choice, but who knows what the right appointment is. Remember when we all got excited about Ole maybe coming  because there was a film with people saying nice things about him from Norway. If he comes I hope it will be with his full backroom staff, because at least he seems to have a good team around him.

[Demitri_C]

I think gerrard will be massively motivated which feels me with abit of confidence.  I like that he is a tough charchter and he will command respect and will get it because of his huge name in the game.

I think despite what people might think of him attract a high calibre of player to the club. I do think there are some positives to this move but without question a huge gamble

About where I am. I am open minded on it, I don't think it lacks ambition in the boards mind. In their background checks etc, I am fairly sure they will have wanted a high profile manager with the potential to kick on. Gerrard has the drive and potential to do well, and is not stupid. He talks about his coaching staff at length in the articles I have read, it is clear we need to ensure we get the right team around him, but I look forward to him doing well.

We needed to ensure that Dean had the right team around him, arguably, and based on the last 4 months that went and was replaced with poor replacements

Two of his first team quit on him and he bought in some pretty useless people in judging on the crap we see from our set piece coach.

Smith was involved with the transfers so he has to take responsibility along with lange. I do think deans biggest mistake was not getting that dynamic  bissouma type cm we all screamed for me. He said we had enough options but we all could all see we didnt.

[Beard82]

I think gerrard will be massively motivated which feels me with abit of confidence.  I like that he is a tough charchter and he will command respect and will get it because of his huge name in the game.

I think despite what people might think of him attract a high calibre of player to the club. I do think there are some positives to this move but without question a huge gamble

About where I am. I am open minded on it, I don't think it lacks ambition in the boards mind. In their background checks etc, I am fairly sure they will have wanted a high profile manager with the potential to kick on. Gerrard has the drive and potential to do well, and is not stupid. He talks about his coaching staff at length in the articles I have read, it is clear we need to ensure we get the right team around him, but I look forward to him doing well.

We needed to ensure that Dean had the right team around him, arguably, and based on the last 4 months that went and was replaced with poor replacements

Two of his first team quit on him and he bought in some pretty useless people in judging on the crap we see from our set piece coach.

Smith was involved with the transfers so he has to take responsibility along with lange. I do think deans biggest mistake was not getting that dynamic  bissouma type cm we all screamed for me. He said we had enough options but we all could all see we didnt.

Personally I am not convinced that these two new appointments were his.  I think they were forced on him - given that they didn’t get sacked like shakey did