Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[aev]

I'll support the Villa always. There have been players and managers I don't like. Gerrard is my least favourite appointment. I'll support his team.

My impression of him is of an arrogant, unsavoury character, he fought hard on the pitch but thought nothing of cheating. There are allegations of attempts to pay people off, of assaults.

I'm not sure why people seem so happy about this. I just don't get it at all.

Our captain last season broke lockdown rules after posting a video in support of the NHS, and also crashed into parked cars. John Terry was in court for assault as a younger man, but seems to have turned his public perception around.  I don't think I've seen anybody "happy" about this, just seems people are prepared to give whoever the new manager is, a chance.

Absolutely. I've got reservations about the appointment, but I'll give the guy the same chance as anyone else. I was very anti-Terry when he came to the club, but you couldn't really fault his time here and he left with the aura that, whatever his past was, the person who was at the club was a genuinely decent chap.

Where I am as well. He wouldn't have been my first choice, but as someone said about 50 pages back all appointments are a risk.

Rangers fans seem gutted, which is a good start.

[The_ads]

Fuck. Well, odds are massively against it working out, but I hope I'm wrong. In the meantime, I just feel a little embarrassed.

I’m intrigued. Why are the odds stacked in favour of someone like Favre when he’s been out of work for 12 months,  never been near the premier league and couldn’t nail the Palace job but odds massively against Gerrard working out? What are you basing this on?

[Mister E]

Grauniad has the Gerrard story as its splash this morning:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/09/aston-villa-want-steven-gerrard-next-manager-plan-rangers-approach

I'm not a fan of his appointment - were it to happen - but to say it lacks ambition is a bit disingenuous. He will, I think, be totally pumped to succeed and has a backroom team to make a strong case that he will do alright.
As a 2 or 3 year appointment, it may work out well for all concerned.

[Demitri_C]

I think gerrard will be massively motivated which feels me with abit of confidence.  I like that he is a tough charchter and he will command respect and will get it because of his huge name in the game.

I think despite what people might think of him attract a high calibre of player to the club. I do think there are some positives to this move but without question a huge gamble

[Bobby Boy]

Grauniad has the Gerrard story as its splash this morning:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/09/aston-villa-want-steven-gerrard-next-manager-plan-rangers-approach

I'm not a fan of his appointment - were it to happen - but to say it lacks ambition is a bit disingenuous. He will, I think, be totally pumped to succeed and has a backroom team to make a strong case that he will do alright.
As a 2 or 3 year appointment, it may work out well for all concerned.

And that's all it would be. An appointment with built-in impermanence.

A motorway service station stop on the way to the real destination.

Is that where we're at?

[Ian.]

Grauniad has the Gerrard story as its splash this morning:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/09/aston-villa-want-steven-gerrard-next-manager-plan-rangers-approach

I'm not a fan of his appointment - were it to happen - but to say it lacks ambition is a bit disingenuous. He will, I think, be totally pumped to succeed and has a backroom team to make a strong case that he will do alright.
As a 2 or 3 year appointment, it may work out well for all concerned.

If the managers drive is to manage Liverpool, he will certainly give it his all and I’d say he would have to have some kind of success over 3 years or so. Most managers shelf life these days seems to be that length of time anyway, so one way of looking at this is both us and he will have had a great period.

If we end up with a cup along the way and he moves on if accept that. After all the same may happen with any manager, especially the older more proven ones.

[The_ads]

If Gerrard won my club a trophy and made us fiercely competitive again I’d drive him to fucking Liverpool myself listening to ‘There she Goes’ by The LA’s on repeat, in a shell suit wearing a moustache and wig. He’d go with my absolute blessing

[Beard82]

Looks pretty certain we're getting him - if we do.  What are the expectations.

For me, assuming he can spend in January, I would think top 10 would be good, 10-12 would be meh but acceptable.  Below that I would say the pressure should be on CP and SG.

Next season has to be top 8

Unless of course all this talk of challenging for Europe is just more of CP's bollocks

[Dave P]

If Gerrard won my club a trophy and made us fiercely competitive again I’d drive him to fucking Liverpool myself listening to ‘There she Goes’ by The LA’s on repeat, in a shell suit wearing a moustache and wig. He’d go with my absolute blessing

Haha and I'll be in the passenger seat telling you to 'Calm down, calm down'

[Monty]

Fuck. Well, odds are massively against it working out, but I hope I'm wrong. In the meantime, I just feel a little embarrassed.

I’m intrigued. Why are the odds stacked in favour of someone like Favre when he’s been out of work for 12 months,  never been near the premier league and couldn’t nail the Palace job but odds massively against Gerrard working out? What are you basing this on?

How often is it that a great player, especially one whose game was based on explosive individual quality, make a great manager? Maradona? Bryan Robson? Roy Keane? Being born a horse doesn't make you a jockey.

Face it, even if it works out it's a faintly embarrassing appointment, based on being impressed by fame and connections with another club. Not great reasoning for a club with apparently greater ambitions than making headlines from the middle of the Championship.

[ozzjim]

I think gerrard will be massively motivated which feels me with abit of confidence.  I like that he is a tough charchter and he will command respect and will get it because of his huge name in the game.

I think despite what people might think of him attract a high calibre of player to the club. I do think there are some positives to this move but without question a huge gamble

About where I am. I am open minded on it, I don't think it lacks ambition in the boards mind. In their background checks etc, I am fairly sure they will have wanted a high profile manager with the potential to kick on. Gerrard has the drive and potential to do well, and is not stupid. He talks about his coaching staff at length in the articles I have read, it is clear we need to ensure we get the right team around him, but I look forward to him doing well.

[john e]

Villa Park is a bit of a graveyard for managers though isn’t it
Plenty have come with high expectations and ambition only to leave completely shot and washed out
Even managers strong footballing principles seems to die a death over time when they get over to Bodymoor Heaths draining system

82% Against in the H&V poll let’s hope he bucks that trend

[LeeB]

Fuck. Well, odds are massively against it working out, but I hope I'm wrong. In the meantime, I just feel a little embarrassed.

I’m intrigued. Why are the odds stacked in favour of someone like Favre when he’s been out of work for 12 months,  never been near the premier league and couldn’t nail the Palace job but odds massively against Gerrard working out? What are you basing this on?

How often is it that a great player, especially one whose game was based on explosive individual quality, make a great manager? Maradona? Bryan Robson? Roy Keane? Being born a horse doesn't make you a jockey.

Face it, even if it works out it's a faintly embarrassing appointment, based on being impressed by fame and connections with another club. Not great reasoning for a club with apparently greater ambitions than making headlines from the middle of the Championship.

On top the recruitment strategy in the summer it's making me start to doubt for the first time.

[Beard82]

Fuck. Well, odds are massively against it working out, but I hope I'm wrong. In the meantime, I just feel a little embarrassed.

I’m intrigued. Why are the odds stacked in favour of someone like Favre when he’s been out of work for 12 months,  never been near the premier league and couldn’t nail the Palace job but odds massively against Gerrard working out? What are you basing this on?

How often is it that a great player, especially one whose game was based on explosive individual quality, make a great manager? Maradona? Bryan Robson? Roy Keane? Being born a horse doesn't make you a jockey.

Face it, even if it works out it's a faintly embarrassing appointment, based on being impressed by fame and connections with another club. Not great reasoning for a club with apparently greater ambitions than making headlines from the middle of the Championship.

This is what I think - it may well be a success - but that would be more by luck then judgement.

If it wasn't for his playing career this would have no support.   From what I have read he has done well at Rangers, by overseeing a modernization of the club.

We have already done that.

[Bobby Boy]

Grauniad has the Gerrard story as its splash this morning:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/09/aston-villa-want-steven-gerrard-next-manager-plan-rangers-approach

I'm not a fan of his appointment - were it to happen - but to say it lacks ambition is a bit disingenuous. He will, I think, be totally pumped to succeed and has a backroom team to make a strong case that he will do alright.
As a 2 or 3 year appointment, it may work out well for all concerned.

If the managers drive is to manage Liverpool, he will certainly give it his all and I’d say he would have to have some kind of success over 3 years or so. Most managers shelf life these days seems to be that length of time anyway, so one way of looking at this is both us and he will have had a great period.

If we end up with a cup along the way and he moves on if accept that. After all the same may happen with any manager, especially the older more proven ones.

'if we end up with a cup... In 3 years' is one hell of an 'if'.

No-one has managed it in 25 years so good luck with that.

Maybe we can enter the pitch to 'You' ll Never Walk Alone' to make him feel at home.