Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[PeterWithe]

Mings reported to be furious with him when he was dropped. Sanson giving him the finger, Buendia ignoring him and stropping off down the tunnel when subbed. Buendia and Konsa having a bust up after the West Ham match. Not a happy camp at all.

Mings needed a kick up the arse and got one, and reacted well to it. Sanson hasn’t looked anything like a Cl player and hasn’t been worthy of a place up to now. Buendia has been poor and ineffective, Ive no real problem with Konsa telling him that sooner rather than later

I’m struggling to see signs of ‘trouble at mill’ really from a spirit POV other than results which I think were a direct result of the Wolves capitulation, we’ve had a bad run and I think we’d have got much better fairly quickly. I don’t think there is a magic bullet needed and if there were I don’t think Gerrard is the one to deliver it.

[Risso]

We have the same defence that were very solid a few months ago the difference is that the midfield and forward line have not been doing their job. No pressure up front and a powder puff midfield no wonder the back line is struggling.
Then there are the injury problems, we don't have players missing a couple of weeks, they are out that long we forget they are villa players. I said Dean should go but he never had a full squad to choose from.

Which team has? A few examples -

Everton missing Calvert-Lewin, Doucoure and Mina
Leeds missing Ayling and Bamford
Palace missing Hughes and Eze

[Rory]

It can be argued whether you think Gerrard is any good or not, he may well be, but eitherway I don't think it can be argued that the appointment (should it happen) shows any serious ambition.  It just doesn't in my opinion. I saw a clip of Simon Jordan on twitter saying we should be aiming higher than Gerrard, who may become elite but he's not there yet whereas Villa are and he's absolutely right... the tanned gob.

What I will say is I don't think he'll be anything like Houllier on the Liverpool fawning front. He doesn't give that vibe to me. It'll be the media that's the problem and not him.

I think he'll be offered the job and then it'll be up to him.

I agree, I think I said earlier that Houllier seemed to have his head in the clouds when we appointed him. I will give credit where it's due and say that I believe Gerrard would be too switched-on and professional to go in for that.

But I also agree that appointing Gerrard would show no ambition. Particularly not after fucking Tottenham just got Conte.

The London thing, okay, that's just a symptom of successive governments focusing investment in London to the detriment of the rest of the country. But to read people trying to justify Tottenham's new stadium as a selling point to a manager is baffling. Why? The manager isn't going to live in the stadium.

I am utterly fucked off by clubs based in unfashionable regions being expected to embrace a diminished place in the game because of geopolitical investment patterns. Even after 20 years of media propaganda, Tottenham are fucking nothing. 13 years ago, Man City were fucking nothing.

Why should we have to accept that we cannot either win respect through demography (as Tottenham did through being based in London), nor can we buy success (as Man City did through blood money)?

It's a rigged fucking game based on regional prejudices and concentration of the media in the South East and North West.

It's not the media's fault that Man City have spent a couple of billion on players since taking them over.

I agree but I do get the anger though, there is a general vibe of us not being as fashionable, always just 'traditional' and not much more. Even little things like Martinez in an article about his Argentina exploits being referred to as 'Ex-Arsenal' rather than 'Villa keeper'. Not that I haven't accepted us being overlooked, we have done for a while and I guess our recent stint in the Champ doesn't help. A more ambitious manager option would help correct it a bit.

The whole idea of there being a traditional 'top four' or 'big six' is a media invention. Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal - they have been regularly successful for the past 60-odd years. But look at the League, FA Cup and League Cup winners going back to the early 60s.

It's an artificial landscape. The media and the PL have paved over a rich and varied garden and supplanted it with a grotesque monoculture based in (ideally North) London and the North West.

Half of the national sports media support Tottenham, so of course they can appoint Mourinho or Conte. But us? Oh fuck no, we couldn't possibly tempt anybody from the Dutch league, and have to think twice about whether we could attract a manager from Brighton who has done no better than our previous manager.

[Beard82]

We have the same defence that were very solid a few months ago the difference is that the midfield and forward line have not been doing their job. No pressure up front and a powder puff midfield no wonder the back line is struggling.
Then there are the injury problems, we don't have players missing a couple of weeks, they are out that long we forget they are villa players. I said Dean should go but he never had a full squad to choose from.

Which team has? A few examples -

Everton missing Calvert-Lewin, Doucoure and Mina
Leeds missing Ayling and Bamford
Palace missing Hughes and Eze

Yeah and Everton and Leeds are the worse for it

[Monty]

Fuck. Well, odds are massively against it working out, but I hope I'm wrong. In the meantime, I just feel a little embarrassed.

[Mossie Hennebry]

Is Scouse actually nice? I'm not sure I've ever met someone who has eaten it.

Yep, it's just a stew like Lancashire Hotpot. Nice and filling on a cold evening.

I've always assumed (based on nothing) that it's sausage-based. Is it sausage based?

Another lowbrow joke has become available, but it's a genuine question!

You're thinking of coddle. A stew of potatoes, carrots and sausage served in Dublin.

[Rory]

Fuck. Well, odds are massively against it working out, but I hope I'm wrong. In the meantime, I just feel a little embarrassed.

Quite right too, Monty. I feel very let down by you.

[edgysatsuma89]

I agree Rory and it's pretty depressing to think about. We should be regarded as mega-bastards considering our size, history, location and now, owners.

When Gerrard takes us to the Champions League 3 years in a row we'll forget all about it 😉.

[Ads]

Time to park the reservations, give him the chance he deserves and back him unconditionally. The same as we did for Bruce, O'Leary and other berks that spring to mind.

[Rory]

I agree Rory and it's pretty depressing to think about. We should be regarded as mega-bastards considering our size, history, location and now, owners.

When Gerrard takes us to the Champions League 3 years in a row we'll forget all about it 😉.

I hope you mean 'when he wins the European Cup three years in a row'. Qualifying is no achievement - even waxface Redknapp can manage that.

When he wins Aston Villa three European Cups, and then writes and performs a deliciously satirical skit just to prove he isn't a frowning humourless prick, I will indeed forget all about it 😊

[edgysatsuma89]

Time to park the reservations, give him the chance he deserves and back him unconditionally. The same as we did for Bruce, O'Leary and other berks that spring to mind.

Yep, definitely. I'll happily be a fatter prick on heaps of humble pie.

[edgysatsuma89]

I agree Rory and it's pretty depressing to think about. We should be regarded as mega-bastards considering our size, history, location and now, owners.

When Gerrard takes us to the Champions League 3 years in a row we'll forget all about it 😉.

I hope you mean 'when he wins the European Cup three years in a row'. Qualifying is no achievement - even waxface Redknapp can manage that.

When he wins Aston Villa three European Cups, and then writes and performs a deliciously satirical skit just to prove he isn't a frowning humourless prick, I will indeed forget all about it 😊

Just don't play that skit on repeat all night...

[Brazilian Villain]

When he wins Aston Villa three European Cups, and then writes and performs a deliciously satirical skit just to prove he isn't a frowning humourless prick, I will indeed forget all about it 😊

Would you settle for him doing 'Born Slippy' as his initiation song?

[Rory]

Time to park the reservations, give him the chance he deserves and back him unconditionally. The same as we did for Bruce, O'Leary and other berks that spring to mind.

Yep, definitely. I'll happily be a fatter prick on heaps of humble pie.

Meanwhile I'll be a skinny prick on a hunger protest at his appointment. Bobby Sands did not die in vain, for his spirit lives on in me!

Thankfully, I'm a bit of a bloater, so it'll take me a good few years to waste away. Long enough, hopefully, for Gerrard to win one of the three European Cups you have PROMISED me.

[Rory]

When he wins Aston Villa three European Cups, and then writes and performs a deliciously satirical skit just to prove he isn't a frowning humourless prick, I will indeed forget all about it 😊

Would you settle for him doing 'Born Slippy' as his initiation song?

No, but The Men Behind The Wire and My Old Man would suffice