Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[Beard82]

It can be argued whether you think Gerrard is any good or not, he may well be, but eitherway I don't think it can be argued that the appointment (should it happen) shows any serious ambition.  It just doesn't in my opinion. I saw a clip of Simon Jordan on twitter saying we should be aiming higher than Gerrard, who may become elite but he's not there yet whereas Villa are and he's absolutely right... the tanned gob.

What I will say is I don't think he'll be anything like Houllier on the Liverpool fawning front. He doesn't give that vibe to me. It'll be the media that's the problem and not him.

I think he'll be offered the job and then it'll be up to him.

That is one of the frustrations - its just anything but ambitious.  Unless we just really are deluded. 

I think you're right, hell be closer to Terry in his conduct than Houllier. 

[john e]

I wonder if he’ll give Freddie another chance

[PeterWithe]

He had his four front players hopelessly out of form for the whole season so far (maybe I’m being unfair on Ings there), that would have improved and so would results.

And his defence, and his midfield. Literally every part of the team was rubbish, and falling out with him and each other.

Were they falling out with him, a non playing sub aside?

We were rightly aiming on improving for a Euro spot finish so him getting ditched isn’t surprising but I can’t say I was in any way fearful of getting relegated, he was a good coach, he’d have found a system that worked well enough to get points on the board, just not enough for the other board.

[Legion]

No. They were behind him.

[The_ads]

I wonder if he’ll give Freddie another chance

I really hope not, I don’t rate him at all

[Rory]

It can be argued whether you think Gerrard is any good or not, he may well be, but eitherway I don't think it can be argued that the appointment (should it happen) shows any serious ambition.  It just doesn't in my opinion. I saw a clip of Simon Jordan on twitter saying we should be aiming higher than Gerrard, who may become elite but he's not there yet whereas Villa are and he's absolutely right... the tanned gob.

What I will say is I don't think he'll be anything like Houllier on the Liverpool fawning front. He doesn't give that vibe to me. It'll be the media that's the problem and not him.

I think he'll be offered the job and then it'll be up to him.

I agree, I think I said earlier that Houllier seemed to have his head in the clouds when we appointed him. I will give credit where it's due and say that I believe Gerrard would be too switched-on and professional to go in for that.

But I also agree that appointing Gerrard would show no ambition. Particularly not after fucking Tottenham just got Conte.

The London thing, okay, that's just a symptom of successive governments focusing investment in London to the detriment of the rest of the country. But to read people trying to justify Tottenham's new stadium as a selling point to a manager is baffling. Why? The manager isn't going to live in the stadium.

I am utterly fucked off by clubs based in unfashionable regions being expected to embrace a diminished place in the game because of geopolitical investment patterns. Even after 20 years of media propaganda, Tottenham are fucking nothing. 12 years ago, Man City were fucking nothing.

Why should we have to accept that we cannot either win respect through demography (as Tottenham did through being based in London), nor can we buy success (as Man City did through blood money)?

It's a rigged fucking game based on regional prejudices and concentration of the media in the South East and North West.

[Risso]

Mings reported to be furious with him when he was dropped. Sanson giving him the finger, Buendia ignoring him and stropping off down the tunnel when subbed. Buendia and Konsa having a bust up after the West Ham match. Not a happy camp at all.

[Risso]

It can be argued whether you think Gerrard is any good or not, he may well be, but eitherway I don't think it can be argued that the appointment (should it happen) shows any serious ambition.  It just doesn't in my opinion. I saw a clip of Simon Jordan on twitter saying we should be aiming higher than Gerrard, who may become elite but he's not there yet whereas Villa are and he's absolutely right... the tanned gob.

What I will say is I don't think he'll be anything like Houllier on the Liverpool fawning front. He doesn't give that vibe to me. It'll be the media that's the problem and not him.

I think he'll be offered the job and then it'll be up to him.

I agree, I think I said earlier that Houllier seemed to have his head in the clouds when we appointed him. I will give credit where it's due and say that I believe Gerrard would be too switched-on and professional to go in for that.

But I also agree that appointing Gerrard would show no ambition. Particularly not after fucking Tottenham just got Conte.

The London thing, okay, that's just a symptom of successive governments focusing investment in London to the detriment of the rest of the country. But to read people trying to justify Tottenham's new stadium as a selling point to a manager is baffling. Why? The manager isn't going to live in the stadium.

I am utterly fucked off by clubs based in unfashionable regions being expected to embrace a diminished place in the game because of geopolitical investment patterns. Even after 20 years of media propaganda, Tottenham are fucking nothing. 13 years ago, Man City were fucking nothing.

Why should we have to accept that we cannot either win respect through demography (as Tottenham did through being based in London), nor can we buy success (as Man City did through blood money)?

It's a rigged fucking game based on regional prejudices and concentration of the media in the South East and North West.

It's not the media's fault that Man City have spent a couple of billion on players since taking them over.

[edgysatsuma89]

It can be argued whether you think Gerrard is any good or not, he may well be, but eitherway I don't think it can be argued that the appointment (should it happen) shows any serious ambition.  It just doesn't in my opinion. I saw a clip of Simon Jordan on twitter saying we should be aiming higher than Gerrard, who may become elite but he's not there yet whereas Villa are and he's absolutely right... the tanned gob.

What I will say is I don't think he'll be anything like Houllier on the Liverpool fawning front. He doesn't give that vibe to me. It'll be the media that's the problem and not him.

I think he'll be offered the job and then it'll be up to him.

That is one of the frustrations - its just anything but ambitious.  Unless we just really are deluded. 

I think you're right, hell be closer to Terry in his conduct than Houllier.

I agree, the lack of ambition is the frustration and not Gerrard per se. Getting someone like Howe in would also have lacked ambition. I mean, maybe they have tried? Who knows? As it's Purslow it just instinctively doesn't feel like we have but I could be wrong.

Definitely think he'll be more Terry in that respect also. He seems a serious no nonsense bloke.

Also any suggestion that Villa fans will not support him is just ridiculous. We could hire absolutely anyone and regardless as to whether we think the appointment is any good or not they would get support. Like any club... now hire Joey Barton and truly test it 😆.

[Rory]

It can be argued whether you think Gerrard is any good or not, he may well be, but eitherway I don't think it can be argued that the appointment (should it happen) shows any serious ambition.  It just doesn't in my opinion. I saw a clip of Simon Jordan on twitter saying we should be aiming higher than Gerrard, who may become elite but he's not there yet whereas Villa are and he's absolutely right... the tanned gob.

What I will say is I don't think he'll be anything like Houllier on the Liverpool fawning front. He doesn't give that vibe to me. It'll be the media that's the problem and not him.

I think he'll be offered the job and then it'll be up to him.

I agree, I think I said earlier that Houllier seemed to have his head in the clouds when we appointed him. I will give credit where it's due and say that I believe Gerrard would be too switched-on and professional to go in for that.

But I also agree that appointing Gerrard would show no ambition. Particularly not after fucking Tottenham just got Conte.

The London thing, okay, that's just a symptom of successive governments focusing investment in London to the detriment of the rest of the country. But to read people trying to justify Tottenham's new stadium as a selling point to a manager is baffling. Why? The manager isn't going to live in the stadium.

I am utterly fucked off by clubs based in unfashionable regions being expected to embrace a diminished place in the game because of geopolitical investment patterns. Even after 20 years of media propaganda, Tottenham are fucking nothing. 13 years ago, Man City were fucking nothing.

Why should we have to accept that we cannot either win respect through demography (as Tottenham did through being based in London), nor can we buy success (as Man City did through blood money)?

It's a rigged fucking game based on regional prejudices and concentration of the media in the South East and North West.

It's not the media's fault that Man City have spent a couple of billion on players since taking them over.

I would argue it partially is. The sense of inevitability about it came from somewhere. Nobody who ever moved to Man City would say they did so for the money. They'd say they did for 'the project'. The point is that they became a 'project' when the money came along. Despite the wealth of our owners, we haven't - not if we're appointing managers like Gerrard. We're still little old Aston Villa, among the Southamptons and Burnleys of the world.

[ozzjim]

Scottish press running that it will be £3m for Gerrard and his backroom team.

[ROBBO]

We have the same defence that were very solid a few months ago the difference is that the midfield and forward line have not been doing their job. No pressure up front and a powder puff midfield no wonder the back line is struggling.
Then there are the injury problems, we don't have players missing a couple of weeks, they are out that long we forget they are villa players. I said Dean should go but he never had a full squad to choose from.

[Rory]

Scottish press running that it will be £3m for Gerrard and his backroom team.

Phew!

At least we'll be making £3m from it then.

Unless you mean.....No, surely not?!

[cdbearsfan]

Scottish press running that it will be £3m for Gerrard and his backroom team.

Phew!

At least we'll be making £3m from it then.

Unless you mean.....No, surely not?!

😁

[edgysatsuma89]

It can be argued whether you think Gerrard is any good or not, he may well be, but eitherway I don't think it can be argued that the appointment (should it happen) shows any serious ambition.  It just doesn't in my opinion. I saw a clip of Simon Jordan on twitter saying we should be aiming higher than Gerrard, who may become elite but he's not there yet whereas Villa are and he's absolutely right... the tanned gob.

What I will say is I don't think he'll be anything like Houllier on the Liverpool fawning front. He doesn't give that vibe to me. It'll be the media that's the problem and not him.

I think he'll be offered the job and then it'll be up to him.

I agree, I think I said earlier that Houllier seemed to have his head in the clouds when we appointed him. I will give credit where it's due and say that I believe Gerrard would be too switched-on and professional to go in for that.

But I also agree that appointing Gerrard would show no ambition. Particularly not after fucking Tottenham just got Conte.

The London thing, okay, that's just a symptom of successive governments focusing investment in London to the detriment of the rest of the country. But to read people trying to justify Tottenham's new stadium as a selling point to a manager is baffling. Why? The manager isn't going to live in the stadium.

I am utterly fucked off by clubs based in unfashionable regions being expected to embrace a diminished place in the game because of geopolitical investment patterns. Even after 20 years of media propaganda, Tottenham are fucking nothing. 13 years ago, Man City were fucking nothing.

Why should we have to accept that we cannot either win respect through demography (as Tottenham did through being based in London), nor can we buy success (as Man City did through blood money)?

It's a rigged fucking game based on regional prejudices and concentration of the media in the South East and North West.

It's not the media's fault that Man City have spent a couple of billion on players since taking them over.

I agree but I do get the anger though, there is a general vibe of us not being as fashionable, always just 'traditional' and not much more. Even little things like Martinez in an article about his Argentina exploits being referred to as 'Ex-Arsenal' rather than 'Villa keeper'. Not that I haven't accepted us being overlooked, we have done for a while and I guess our recent stint in the Champ doesn't help. A more ambitious manager option would help correct it a bit.